Patriarch's Bidding

Patriarch's Bidding

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Each player chooses a creature type. Each player returns all creature cards of a type chosen this way from his or her graveyard to the battlefield.

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Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Patriarch's Bidding Discussion

multimedia on Edgar markov Drain and Gain

4 days ago

Hey, if you want to play aggro with Edgar then I don't think a 10 mana combo, Exquiste + Bond is what you want. Exquiste + Bond goes with a midrange strategy with life gain, not aggro. 24 cards with 4 CMC or higher is a lot for aggro. With this many you risk having too many of them in your opening hand rather than low CMC Vamps.

For aggro consider cutting many four/five drops to decrease the avg. CMC? Patriarch's Bidding and Coat of Arms are five drops to keep because one helps you recover if aggro doesn't work out and the other pushes your Vamp army over the top. Sanctum Seeker, Purphoros, God of the Forge and Bloodline Keeper  Flip are the four drops worth keeping with aggro. In the place of other high CMC cards add more low CMC Vamps/cards especially one drops.

My advice for aggro with Edgar is take more advantage of eminence and going wide with Vamps and Vamp tokens. Lots more one and two drop Vamps. Edgar is really the only high CMC threat you need with aggro. Instead of playing lots of other high CMC cards play Vamps who can be mana sinks. Knight of the Ebon Legion, Guul Draz Assassin and Mirror Entity is a Vamp and it's a way to use lots of mana if you have it to pump your entire army. Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord and Shared Animosity are good repeatable effects with an aggro/go wide strategy.

I offer more advice, good luck with your deck.

Doombeard1984 on The Invasion is Coming

4 days ago

Hi there. So I have a sliver deck too, and it's great fun to play... Maybe not for everyone else, but that's not really my problem right? Lol. Have a look on my profile, it's on there.

So there is definitely going to be a +1, because slivers! For the hive!

So some suggestions maybe:

  1. Skyshroud Claim would enable you to get 2 of you shock lands and help fix you for mana, as it searches for forest type. Obviously fetches would be good, but they are super expensive.

  2. Some non Exile based boardwipes could be a good plan. You have Sliver Hivelord, so destruction effects are just fun. Classic Wrath of God, Blasphemous Act is fun in conjunction with Spiteful Sliver and you can even look at mass land destruction, as your slivers will be able to produce mana.

  3. Morophon, the Boundless could be a good shout for your build, as yours is a much more creature heavy, less combo based build.

  4. Some real good enchantments to help are Mana Echoes and Intruder Alarm. Can make you have real explosive turns, and in conjunction with haste and mana production slivers you have the chance to tutor and play your whole deck with Sliver Overlord. Depends which way you want to go though.

  5. There are better versions and more utile slivers you can use. Just having a look on mtg gatherer can help you find potentially more efficient versions of the slivers you have.

  6. I think maybe there could be room for more targetted removal. Path to Exile, Utter End, Vindicate, Terminate. The list is huge. Sometimes that spot removal can help you in a pinch.

  7. Patriarch's Bidding is fantastic. Bounces you back from a boardwipe. Is a bit pricey though.

Hope this helps and rock on!

Arktaurous on Edgar Markov Vampires

1 week ago

Skeletal Scrying, Dregs of Sorrow, Damnable Pact, Necrologia are all viable options as long as your life gain is working well.

Patriarch's Bidding,Balthor the Defiled, Finale of Eternity, No Rest for the Wicked, Empty the Catacombs, Twilight's Call can all kinda undo certain board wipes.

White has some counter spells too like Rebuff the Wicked, Mana Tithe, Dawn Charm, Lapse of Certainty, Illumination that could help against removal sometimes.

Inigmatix on Sliver in my Thumb

1 month ago

Starting from the Premium Deck is a pretty good place to begin crafting slivers and it's what I did myself and have been playing slivers for a number of years now.

Now for quite a lot of suggestions and thoughts that I hope will be helpful for you

Recommended Cuts

You really don't need Mana Reflection in slivers or most other decks for that matter. It's really a "win more" kind of card and if you're doing well enough that you have the 6 mana to burn on it you're probably better off just dumping more slivers into play or tutoring for slivers that will allow you to win the game with your Sliver Overlord. If you're using it to go infinite and win with Sliver Queen then your Mana Echoes will provide the same effect for that combo but either of the 4-cost token doublers can also work. Anointed Procession Parallel Lives

You also don't really need bombs like Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, when you can spend less mana on more creatures that generate more value, putting 11 mana into a single creature will feel kind of bad. Also, a 10/10 among a board of 20/20 unblockable, vigilant, double striking, lifelink, flying, deathtouch, trample, etc. creatures isn't going to provide much of a bonus, it actually ends up being less of a threat than the rest of your board. Plus, if it gets countered, you’re down 11 mana whereas if somebody counters a sliver then you’re down like 2-4 mana and can still play more slivers.

Mycosynth Lattice opens up your entire board to artifact removal (including your lands) you may want to reconsider this include as it doesn't really provide any benefit to you for all the risk that comes with it.

Sensei's Divining Top may not be as useful in a deck where you have as many tutors as you do and your commander can tutor all your value pieces since you’ll probably be shuffling your deck a lot.

Amulet of Vigor doesn’t actually do that much for you, out of all your permanents there is only one that always enters tapped, Vesuva. With the number of shock and check lands you run, you probably do not need this and can use this slot for something else. (I get that it also works with Cryptic Gateway but without a source for card draw, you’ll run out of slivers to play quite quickly anyway)

Quick Thoughts

Crystalline Sliver turns off any and all "target sliver" abilities like Crypt Sliver and Magma Sliver (You also won’t be able to steal things with Overlord). If you find yourself subject to frequent spot removal and need to bring Crystalline out often to protect your Slivers you can at least keep the regenerate ability with Clot Sliver or Sedge Sliver

Harmonic Sliver can potentially ruin your infinite Token Queen combo as the pieces that enable that combo are all artifacts/enchantments and this sliver’s ETB is not a ‘may’ ability. You must destroy something if there is a legal target on the board so you would end up destroying your Training Grounds, Mana Echoes, etc. If you still want this ability I would recommend swapping this with Aura Shards as it is the same ability with the same trigger but it is a ‘may’ ability and you can choose not to destroy something.

Useful Slivers

Hibernation Sliver is one of the best slivers for avoiding removal. Paying 2 life to protect any sliver from being destroyed, exiled, stolen, etc. is very useful

Belligerent Sliver/Two-Headed Sliver making it harder to block your slivers means more bodies getting through to hit face.

Essence Sliver this is not Lifelink, and because it isn’t it actually stacks with Syphon Sliver for more life points

Dormant Sliver It’s fairly easy to dump your hand when playing slivers but this leaves you with an empty hand and not a whole lot of options. Very good for keeping your hand full of slivers to play. Defender can be a problem but who says you have to attack to win with slivers ;)

Screeching Sliver alternate win, tack this onto infinite sliver tokens combo from the Queen to mill out your opponents. Good if locked out of attacking for some reason

Lavabelly Sliver another non-combat win with Queen combo

Homing Sliver another way to tutor for any sliver you need besides Overlord’s ability

Mesmeric Sliver only card with Fateseal in the game, great for controlling your opponent’s next draw. Force them to only draw lands or maybe give them no lands at all.

Necrotic Sliver having spot removal for any permanent on every single one of your creatures is terrifying a very valuable. Strongly recommend this as an include.

Shadow Sliver I have never encountered anyone playing creatures with Shadow in EDH in all my years of play. This most certainly will let you get through and hit face to win a game, just make sure you kill all your opponents or get rid of it after combat as it leaves you with no blockers

Virulent Sliver I know there are mixed feelings about poison counters in the magic community but hey you get 2 counters on someone with double strike creatures.

Fun and Useful Tribal Cards for Slivers

None of these are particularly pertinent includes and some came with the Premium Deck, but these are just some Tribal cards that I have used over time while playing with slivers. Some I still use and some I do not.

Kindred Summons, Wild Pair, Herald's Horn, Coat of Arms, Kindred Discovery, Descendants' Path, Patriarch's Bidding, Kindred Charge, Vanquisher's Banner, Distant Melody, Kindred Dominance, Living Death, Primal Surge, Harsh Mercy, Door of Destinies

Closing Thoughts

Slivers can be a lot of fun to play but keep in mind that they are very aggressive and can draw a lot of hate from your opponents. Players that have experienced playing against slivers are likely to counter your high-value creatures like Gemhide or Queen and will try keeping your board as small as possible since slivers win by swarming and overwhelming your opponents. I have found that this can be mitigated somewhat by changing your commander since slivers have 3 good options. Sliver Overlord, Sliver Queen, and The First Sliver.

Overlord and Queen are quite similar as they both conducive to trying to hit Queen’s infinite combo as quickly as possible but I have found that Queen tends to make people more nervous than Overlord does since you can create a wide board very quickly with her. Not only that but if you are relatively uninterrupted then silvers can combo out relatively consistently by turn 4 or 5 (depending on how lucky you get). If you like a combo victory, then that’s great, but the combo has very little variance and I personally got bored of it after playing it like that for so long.

Using The First Sliver as your commander is a whole lot less consistent if you’re going for combo but overall I’ve found it to be significantly more fun to play as I can sometimes rip 3-4 slivers for free off the top of my deck. The win is the same with overrunning your opponents but not using an infinite combo every time was very refreshing.

Hopefully you find some of this helpful, slivers are my all-time favorite tribe in mtg and it was great to see them get some love in Modern Horizons.

Mortlocke on The Queen's Egg

1 month ago

Yarok - You didn't link your deck. You can do it like this:

[[deck:The Song of Phyresis]] 
Also, I tried searching for it on the site and it didn't show up :\

Wicker - You can link cards like this:

[[card:Sliver Queen]] 

As for my thoughts on each card? I'll try and keep my tangents short lol.

  • Disallow: is cool, but not very good in a Sliver deck because it belongs in a Baral, Chief of Compliance deck. I mean, not only does it feature him in the card art, it actually lowers the CMC to , making the card a strictly better counterspell. I slotted in Mana Drain, but if cost is an issue and you want a good to decent counterspell that is not Counterspell i'd consider Forbid, Mana Leak, Arcane Denial, Hinder, Rewind, or Dissipate.

  • Kindred Summons: Cool. But can be a massive dude of a card if you dont have any topdeck manipulation ala Scroll Rack, Mirri's Guile, or Sensei's Divining Top. Notable combinations with this card would be Worldly Tutor or Vampiric Tutor.

  • Mystical Tutor: If your deck relies heavily on interaction/instant speed removal then this wouldn't be bad inclusion. The only issue is that MT won't be doing much outside of getting you some potential interaction, meaning that you'll be holding up mana you could be using to better establish your boardstate.

  • Coat of Arms / Door of Destinies / Vanquisher's Banner: Depends on how you want to build your deck - if you want to rely primarily on combat damage being your wincon then any of the previously mentioned are worth it. I'd run all three in addition to Shared Animosity, Magma Sliver and Sliver Legion.

  • Heartstone: Be careful with this one. It's effect applies to your opponents' creatures as well. I'd never include this because I like to be shrewd and not unknowingly enable my opponents to win. If you insist on including this you better be sure you're going to win on the turn you play it.

  • Herald's Horn: Seems like good card advantage. I'd choose between this and Rhystic Study.

  • Distant Melody: I generally don't like spells that are contingent on how many creatures I have in play, because it's only good under very specific conditions that can be influenced by opponents. I'd go with Dormant Sliver or Synapse Sliver.

  • Kindred Dominance: This card is super cool. I'm considering slotting this in/play testing this for Toxic Deluge. That CMC of 7 hurts though.

  • Living Death: A cool card. I'm considering slotting it in for Patriarch's Bidding to playtest.

  • Cryptolith Rite: Is an okay card. I apply the same logic to this card as I would Distant Melody. This card is only as good as the number of creatures you have in play, which can be influenced by opponents. If someone boardwipes and this card is in hand it's literally a dead card.

  • Unnatural Selection: A fun card that used to be in this deck. I eventually cut it because it was banned in my local LGS which was hosting an EDH league. It obviously has great synergy with Sliver Overlord - but nothing else. The card is pretty niche - but it's fun. If you want to go for a more casual build with Sliver Overlord at the helm, then i'd run this.

X-Factor11105 on I Am Fire, I Am Death

1 month ago

Fuzzlewuzzle thanks for the responses!

In looking back through your changes, Warstorm Surge eventually came back into the build. Did you feel like you needed it in order to get a faster win-con or more spot removal? At a 6 CMC that's a turn you wouldn't get to play any dragons.

What's kept Grave Upheaval in this build? High CMC, single target feels counter to a lot of what you've talked about wanting to do in the primer. Have you had instances where the haste was needed? For that total 6 CMC you could cast Patriarch's Bidding or Twilight's Call to be more impactful. Along that line, was Hammer of Purphoros ever a consideration?

Have you ever thought about Olivia, Mobilized for War as a tech in here?

  • 3 CMC means it hits the board reasonably quickly
  • Haste enabler when your dragons come into play, if they don't already have it
  • Can help fill the yard with dragons in hand if you don't have a discard outlet
  • Assuming you could resolve its ability before Surge and Tempest, it upticks the damage that either enchantment would do

I assume Wurmcoil and Everlasting Torment are local meta counters, but I might look to swap in for one of those.

Mortlocke on Play all the good slivers

1 month ago

bigrigroy,

Sorry for taking so long for getting around to doing an honest critique. I'll just give you my thoughts as they come to me. So you want me to suggest what to cut, and what interaction and ramp should you consider for your deck? Well, first things first - you should try and have a average CMC lower than 3. You should focus on playing as many slivers as you can while trying to win via combo using Sliver Queen - or through commander damage as Overlord has the "magical 7" commander power. What do I mean by magical 7? Well with overlord (and Bonescythe Sliver) on the board it takes 2 or 3 swings getting through to just knock a player out for good, giving another viable strategy for winning. But I digress - when you are spending more than 5 mana on a spell, you should be making a play that will shift a significant amount of momentum your way, or outright win you the game. So now, lets start with possible cuts:

  • Morophon, the Boundless: This is subjective, but I maintain the idea that Morophon is a strictly "win-more" card in a Slivers deck. When you tap out to cast this thing you'll definitely be able to cast every sliver in hand, but the only way to get them there is to have your commander already on the battlefield, and enough mana to tutor for all of your wincon slivers in the first place. Full disclosure, i've never attempted to use Morophon in my deck, so there may be something i'm missing - but for 7 mana all I can see is that the best that card can do is just put you in an even better board position. While nice, it's just not worth it. Cut.

  • Constricting Sliver: This in my opinion is just a poorly designed sliver. For 6 mana you're getting a poor man's oblivion ring. It can't even hold commanders hostage because of the exile effect. At best, this sliver can be a minor annoyance on the battlefield but it will hardly become much of an issue. Cut.

  • Ward Sliver: I'm a little iffy on cutting this one only because pro-color can be pretty strong. The only issue is that it can't be flickered reliably outside of Frenetic Sliver, but that's a bit too high risk for a more competitive sliver build. Again, you spending alot of mana for only something that can improve your boardstate...but not ensure you're going to win. If I was spending 5 mana, i'd want to cast something like a Mana Echoes or Intruder Alarm and a Gemhide Sliver. While a good sliver, it's just a little too high cost for something that's meant to be aggressive and low to the ground. Cut? up to you.

  • Pulmonic Sliver: For 5 mana this card does give your side of the board some resilience...but very little else. There are better spells out there that can give you graveyard recursion such as Patriarch's Bidding, Yawgmoth's Will or Living Death. Pulmonic is just over costed for what it does. Cut.

  • Virulent Sliver: Now this is an honorable mention here...as poison isn't very potent. You'd have to land 10 individual attacks on an opponent to kill them with poison. That number goes down to 5 when Bonescythe Sliver is on the field, but ultimately that 1 mana can go toward something better like a Manaweft Sliver, which isn't in your deck and absolutely should be. Virulent needs to get Cut.

Also, I don't remember if I said this, but awesome deck description! I'll post more thoughts as I have time. Keep working on your build! Chitinous Approval Ensues

ShreddedByCrows on Surrakar tribal challenge

1 month ago

Cool concept, even if it's pretty hard to match. A bit of an easy take on your theme, but why don't you play some Shapeshifters as a way to have more Surrakar? Tribal cards also could help.

As Surrakars' living places are mostly wild forests and underground rivers, there's a lot to do with that without having to back up only on the Zendikar's expansions.

1.) River cards:

  • River of Tears not the best land you could find, but fits in there

  • Underground River certainly an essential

  • Bad River cheap fetchland fitting the theme

  • Rushing River great removal, really underplayed, fits the theme / you can try something revolving around self land destruction if you decide to give it a try (Crop Rotation, Crucible of Worlds, Wasteland, etc.)

  • River Kelpie interesting creature, which design feels otherworldly and weird, according to the Surrakars /n needs a graveyard gameplan to be effective, and that will seem fine (obvious synergy is [card:Cauldron of Souls] and it's a playable card in there) / pretty good interactions with Yarok / card draw

  • Carpet of Flowers staple in lots of decks for mana production, depends on your playgroup though

  • Dire Undercurrents excellent synergies with Yarok, enabling your creatures without etb-abilities to be more effective / card draw, card advantage

  • Undermine weird counterspell, not really that good, not bad either / illustration matches with the theme

2.) Cave cards:

3.) Cloning your Surrakars cards:

  • Mirror of the Forebears not the most flavourful one, but gives you a cheap way to get more Surrakars so it deserves being at least mentioned

  • Fated Infatuation same comment as for the Mirror, with the advantage of the more abstract card name / waterpoint in the illustration

  • Mimic Vat classic card, not the most flavourful

  • Wall of Stolen Identity more of a Ravnica-themed card, but worth mentioning

  • Phantasmal Image if you can alter a bit the card's image, it could be some Surrakar there / otherwise, it's a good card, and the illustration is strange enough to not injure your theme-deck-style imo

  • Metamorphic Alteration also a nice one

  • Mirror Image not as good as the others, still a wildish illustration style according well with Surrakars

  • Unstable Shapeshifter funny card, a quality+ illustration

  • Bramble Sovereign Surrakars also living in the Guum Wilds/Tangled Vale, this one feels really good / has some interactions with Yarok

  • Rite of Replication Zendikar-themed, water-themed, excellent card, good interactions with Yarok

  • Supplant Form let's just assume for a while that this is Surrakar's magic lel

  • Dual Nature yeh it is slow, but it is strong / interactions with Yarok

4.) Tribal outlet:

5.) Yarok outlet

6.) Other cards

I hope you'll find something helpful amongst those suggestions, keep on brewing and thanks for sharing it!

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