Fell Stinger

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Pioneer Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Standard Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Fell Stinger

Creature — Zombie Scorpion

Deathtouch

Exploit (When this creature enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice a creature.)

When this exploits a creature, target player draws two cards and loses 2 life.

multimedia on Meren Current

5 months ago

Hey, good start on a low budget. I think you can optimize what you currently have even more since there's 16 high mana cost cards here.

Some advice to consider, fill the rest of the deck spots with one, two or three CMC cards since the high end part of your deck is done? One drop budget creatures who can sac themselves are excellent support with Meren.

Viscera Seer and Carrion Feeder are sac outlets which could use more of those to get experience counters. There's not much draw here that Meren can take advantage of. Consider more repeatable draw when you sac creature/creature dies?

Morbid Opportunist can trigger on an opponents turn if any creature dies not just your own creature. Body Launderer loots each time a creature you control dies, helps to setup Meren reanimation. Can also get more draw from single effects.

Budget one drop mana dorks can be ramp who can be saced/die later on for experience counters.

Arcane Signet is an upgrade for Golgari Signet and Talisman of Resilience is another Golgari mana rock. Some budget lands to consider adding/upgrades:

Woodland Chasm gives Wood Elves a Golgari Forest land to search for.

Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on Liesa, Liesa, they so flying...

5 months ago

Hey, good latest update, really nice additions of Archivist of Oghma and Bolas's Citadel. Don't forget Caves of Koilos, it's in the precon and an Orzhov dual land that enters the battlefield untapped.

You're right you want more draw and you could cut several lesser creatures for more draw. Use life to get draw by either drawing when you gain life or when you pay life. Well of Lost Dreams is another four drop that like Greed once you get onto the battlefield it can draw a ton of cards because of Liesa's lifelink. Sigarda's Splendor can draw an extra card at your upkeep if your life total changed and it's another source of repeatable life gain from casing white spells.

Dawn of Hope each time you gain life you can pay 2 mana to draw a card. Eye of Vecna draws a card when it enters the battlefield and then it can be repeatable at your upkeep for 2 mana + 2 life.

Fell Stinger can sac itself for it's exploit to have interaction with Liesa, Forgotten Archangel and other reanimation or recursion that you could add such as Sun Titan, Witch of the Moors, Apprentice Necromancer, Priest of Fell Rites. When your Commander has flying then Mask of Memory can be consistent repeatable draw as well as discard to fuel reanimation or recursion.

Court of Grace makes you the monarch for repeatable draw a card at your end step. If you're the monarch at your upkeep then you create a 4/4 Angel or if you're not the monarch a 1/1 Spirit. Palace Jailer makes you the monarch, it also exiles an opponent's creature and that creature never returns to the battlefield unless you lose the monarch which can only happen if an opponent does combat damage to you or plays a card that makes them the monarch.


Some cards to consider cutting for more draw, reanimation, recursion.

  • Killian, Ink Duelist: you have very few cards that have a single target to reduce the mana cost.
  • Vampire Outcasts: the lifelink is nice, but that's all it does for a four drop creature, no other abilities, can do better for four mana.
  • Dawnhart Geist: there's very few enchantments here and it only triggers for your enchantments, can gain more life from other cards.
  • Vampire Scrivener: I know you like this card, but it's too slow and doesn't do anything for five mana. You have Necropolis Regent at one more mana than Scrivener who can put the counters on Liesa the same turn it enters the battlefield. Putting counters on Liesa will do more because she has lifelink.
  • Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts: not a fan of this seven drop, could replace it with Sun Titan.

Well of Lost Dreams or Sigarda's Splendor could replace Vampire Outcasts. Dawn of Hope or Eye of Vecna could replace Killian, Ink Duelist. Mask of Memory is a good swap for Malefic Scythe. Mask can give you repeatable draw where as Scythe isn't doing much because it only triggers when equipped creature dies.

Fell Stinger is an easy swap for Dawnhart Geist. Vampire Scrivener could be cut for more reanimation Witch of the Moors, Apprentice Necromancer, Priest of Fell Rites. Sun Titan could replace Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts. Court of Grace or Palace Jailer could replace Heron of Hope. Heron's ability is fine to gain a little more life, but more draw would help more.

DawnsRayofLight on Chainer, Dementia Master

7 months ago

As someone who has played Chainer for close to a decade, I have some suggestions I would like to offer. (though everyone's decks run differently!)

34-35 lands is usually enough. I would recommend 34 with Agadeem's Awakening  Flip that gives you 5 spots:

In those spots:

Mana Crypt

Thought Vessel

Charcoal Diamond

Coldsteel Heart

Jet Medallion

(Or all the expensive artifacts like Grim Monolith or what have you)

In place of:

1x Cast Down--> Lethal Scheme: This card is amazing in any reanimator list

1x Culling the Weak--> Phyrexian Altar: you need more sac outlets with some staying power

1x Dismember--> Soul Transfer: seems janky, but versatile

1x Doom Blade--> Baleful Mastery: you can hit more with it.

1x Go for the Throat--> Infernal Grasp

1x Power Word Kill--> Deadly Rollick/Altar of Dementia: for a better killspell or for a sac outlet

1x Sacrifice--> Ashnod's Altar: need more sac outlets with staying power

1x Terror--> Meteor Golem: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove

1x Victim of Night--> Karn Liberated: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove

Cruel Tutor--> Mikaeus, the Unhallowed: bonkers for some staying power, also has combo potential

Unmarked Grave--> Putrid Goblin: this or Walking Ballista are good for combos with Mikaeus. Putrid GOblin + Ashnod's Altar/Phyrexian Altar + Mikaeus = infinite mana (or sub ashnod's altar for mill).

Suggested Drops, see next list for suggested replacements

Blood Pet--> sort of an eh card, I might think of something with more oomph

Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip--> I do like her, she just never did anything when I ran her.

Ruthless Technomancer: I have debated a lot adding him, in something like Korvold, he is an all-star, in chainer, he can be good, but I would almost always rather have Disciple of Bolas

Skirge Familiar: I get the reason it is in here, but there are better cards.

Black Market: It's nice, but can be too slow.

Liliana of the Dark Realms: I just have never been a big fan, she feels too lackluster.

Final Parting: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough

Sidisi, Undead Vizier: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough

Rune-Scarred Demon: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough, there also some stronger creatures to fit in the spot.

Suggestions

Archon of Cruelty: expensive mana wise but an all star.

Kokusho, the Evening Star: has been in my deck from the beginning and has flat out won me games.

Brainstealer Dragon: seems janky, but I added to just try it and it has been amazing.

Black Market Connections: You need more draw (also helps with ramp)

Phyrexian Arena: You need more draw

Bolas's Citadel: an amazing card. Wins games all the time.

Disciple of Bolas: card draw and life gain

Fell Stinger: card draw

Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed: Great for recursion

Reanimate, Liliana, Death's Majesty, Living Death. and Animate Dead: it is good to have other means of reanimation if Chainer keeps getting removed (I also suggest sac outlets to help keep your creatures from getting exiled when they spot remove Chainer)

Hope this helps! Here is my list to maybe show you how I run the list: The True Meaning of Death and Taxes

Kret on Does the new card -> …

9 months ago

Let's suppose I have Athreos, Shroud-Veiled, creature A that has 'destroy a creature on etb' with a coin counter and Resourceful Defense on the battlefield, and I play another creature B that has 'destroy a creature on etb'.
Can I stack triggers so that:
1. Creature A with the coin counter will die on etb of creature B
2. I'll move the coin counter from A to B
3. Bring creature A back with the Athreos, Shroud-Veiled trigger
4. Target creature B with creature A etb 'destroy another target creature'
5. Move counter again. Rinse and repeat

Can I move the counter this way? Does that work the way I think?

Examples of combos I have in mind:
Fell Stinger + Sidisi, Undead Vizier for infinite tutor and draw on exploit
Plaguecrafter + Demon's Disciple for infinite etb, ltb and discard
Noxious Gearhulk + Cavalier of Dawn for infinite etb, ltb, lifegain and tokens

Ziusdra on Card creation challenge

9 months ago

Splash Elemental

Creature - Elemental

Creatures blocking or blocked by Splash Elemental get -1/-0 until end of turn.

"Ack! Hang on a second, I got water in my eye."

0 / 1


That's just a fun draft common. Let me make something moderately interesting.


Witherbloom Lab

Artifact

When you sacrifice an artifact for the first time each turn, create a green and black 1/1 Pest creature token with, "When this thing dies, you gain 1 life."

When you sacrifice a creature for the first time each turn, you may pay 2 life. If you do, draw a card.

When you sacrifice an enchantment for the first time each turn, each opponent gets a Poison counter.

In this laboratory, you'll learn more than the elementary alchemy that passes for "science" elsewhere.


That would be devastating in standard, with all the treasures and the synergies with Deadly Dispute and Fell Stinger. I don't know when you'll be sacrificing enchantments except maybe in Commander.

Got double-ninja'd, see above

NoSoyYucateco on Hot Ghoul Summer

1 year ago

desmondwrite: I actually have to disagree with you about Fell Stinger. It does it all! It's a deathtoucher, it sacrifices a creature, it draws, and it's very recurrable in this deck. For three mana, it puts in a ton of work.

I think I want to keep Noosegraf Mob for now, because in my games I've found that I don't have as many token producers as I'd like. However, I've been very on the fence about Sun Titan. I have been holding on to it because it can return lands so I can hit high notes like Rise of the Dark Realms, but mostly I haven't been that impressed with its performance. I'm swapping it with Havengul Lich.

Thanks for your advice!

desmondwrite on Hot Ghoul Summer

1 year ago

Also not a huge fan of Fell Stinger, even if deathtouch is nice to have on a blocker. You have better draw options.