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Tap, Sacrifice a creature: Blasting Station deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, you may untap Blasting Station.
Blasting Station Discussion
4 days ago
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the comment Byuante.
So this deck isn't really about attacking, which is why I have left out some of the more obvious finishers like Overwhelming Stampede and Craterhoof Behemoth . Though adding in one mass pump spell isn't a bad idea if my primary win-con fails.
Speaking of which, Furystoke Giant and Aerie Ouphes are part of this deck's win condition. This deck is all about using the persist mechanic to go infinite. Each creature with persist creates an infinite loop with a free sac outlet and either Grumgully, the Generous or Melira, Sylvok Outcast on the battlefield. I run all of the persist creatures simply because there aren't many of them to begin with.
Add in any of Purphoros, God of the Forge , Impact Tremors , Altar of Dementia , Blasting Station , Warstorm Surge , or Stalking Vengeance to close out the game. Though now that I see all of the finishers listed next to one another, I may cut Stalking Vengeance or Warstorm Surge . 6 payoffs is likely too many.
Woodfall Primus is a special case because it is both the best persist creature, and yet due to its ability, it is the worst for the combo. It can't go infinite because it must destroy a noncreature permanent. That means it will eventually have to start targeting my own things. I almost left it out of the deck because it basically reads: "your opponent's can't play for the rest of the game". However, it is just a very good card on it's own so I left it in the deck.
Broken Bond is an interesting card that I really should try out. I always see it, but because it's sorcery speed I have never tried it. Plus it's another card that deals with Torpor Orb which automatically makes it something to consider.
3 weeks ago
Nim Deathmantle also combos real nice with Ashnod's Altar. Karmic Guide plus Reveillark also make for a fantastic Infinite loop for you Blood Artist effects plus the ability for standalone utility as recursion pieces.
Altar of the Brood makes for a low cmc finisher for infinite loops as well.
In general I strongly recommend lowering your average cmc to present more early game relevance.
Also a couple specific Planeswalkers help with a backup plan when primary combo fails and you gotta go token beatdown.
Gideon, Ally of Zendikar immediate ult, buffing all dudes and impossible to remove.
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad again immediate emblem buff.
Ajani, Strength of the Pride that 0 ability ult is easily obtainable and puts us in a prime position to win.
Elspeth, Sun's Champion board wipe, massive token producer, and back-breaking ult with token swarm.
Thumbs up and an upvote for the Primer.
1 month ago
Ideally Providence will not be cast at all but can grant me the extra 6 life from the opening. Often I exile it for Gemstone Caverns directly after gaining the life. In the games where I do cast it I usually have Pariah + Stuffy Doll ready to draw the game; this would be the situation where I could play Approach of the Second Sun and I can play for this specifically if my opponent is trying very hard not to draw the game.
1 month ago
1 month ago
I think Runed Stalactite would be fun here. Toss it on Worldspine so he becomes an egg, then sac him and potentially get him right back. With an altar and Runed Stalactite out you've got yourself infinite wurms and life! Amorphous Axe , Shields of Velis Vel , and Blades of Velis Vel work similarly to the stalactite though they are more restrictive.
1 month ago
xixyz, thanks so much for taking a look at my list and for your feedback! I agree Blasting Station would be great and end games. I do want to make a case for Lesser Masticore however, since its discard provides reanimation targets in a pinch. Discarding with Fauna Shaman enables the same strategy. Perhaps there need to be more reanimation spells to make masticore feel worth it, but I'll keep playing the deck and make a decision as I get more experience with it. Regarding the hulk, I put it in there because I thought about playing it with Flash, but that felt too linear! Thanks for commenting and I'll stay in touch about new directions for the deck.
1 month ago
Hi again realsoupersand,
Had to fly out to Ottawa, ON in Canada for a bit, so back in action.
50% of the time, I win with my primary win-con, which is Buried Alive + Reanimate , generally between T1-4 depending on how much tutoring and mana ramps I have available. It's CMC4, which happens on T1 occassionally, T2/T3 more realistically.
Karmic Guide is a critical component of that combo, also, yes she is playable with Kaalia of the Vast . Also enables Razaketh, the Foulblooded from the graveyard, and provides for sac/tutor. It's usually never a dead draw, and at CMC5 is still playable from hand, on occasion if the game is going on, and the Protection: with Flying also has assisted occasionally. Other than her obvious CMC as just a recursion tool, she's generally been good, and a requirement for the primary win-con.
Angel of Despair is just a Vindicate for CMC7, its ridiculous and only 5/5 flying. However, it's what I ALWAYS Tainted Pact to when Show and Tell + Omniscience , unless they have Leyline of Anticipation it's "usually" good enough. I can tutor Anguished Unmaking , however, I have to give priority up with an Omniscience on the table, so it's far too late by then. Can also destroy other random threats if needed too. She's borderline for sure. Red Elemental Blast is too slow in this case.
Angelic Arbiter was answering the Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge but now it's always Kess, Dissident Mage . Also for Tooth and Nail type encounters (eg: Craterhoof Behemoth ) or any type of haste/recursion. All together stops a few. I usually just put 1 response to any situation, because I just tutor the exclusive solution needed.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope protects against MLD type situations, but she's not difficult to remove anyway, everyone's removal deals with her no problem. If she buys me an extra turn though, it's worth it. Can also put a player on a turn timer or make them act before prepared (no Force of Will for example), sometimes... Not the strongest for sure. Or like a The Gitrog Monster looping destroy maybe...
Balefire Dragon is again, just to solve specific issues or eliminate high value ground targets. Like the others, Tainted Pact to hand whenever, a situation calls for it. I tried to cut back on creature controls (ex: Damnation ) just because its not a creature world, but often creatures can be enablers.
Baneslayer Angel cut, served no purpose other than lifelink for the Hatred but the CMC5 was too much, and only removed a single opponent. Serra Ascendant T1 "usually" puts enough pressure on 1 player (usually )), who is now on a turn timer, spending life for tutoring becomes harder, and sometimes waste time removing it. Statistically found, I was usually nearly 1 turn earlier to win with Serra Ascendant , plus overcharges me for an early Necropotence or Razaketh, the Foulblooded win or Doom Whisperer win.
Phyrexian Arena is tough, high CMC, no return. It still the second highest played card in commander, and I don't know how else to draw? Mardu is a drawing nightmare. Have to think on it, how to deal with it but agreed, same issue is with Bloodgift Demon . I've had Skyline Despot recommended has a same turn impact (draw at EOT), but also, might be ramping oppponents draw too, especially if I have no way to reconnect on attack as Skyline Despot doesn't have trample.
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight has the added benefit of removing 1-damage win-cons like Impact Tremors , Blasting Station , Goblin Bombardment , Dragon Tempest (with 1 dragon), Etc... Also puts pressure on. Usually just for a specific application though. I think my interaction package is more similar to a Thoughtseize type application, where if I can't win early, I tutor what I need to address the specific threats, instead of using Instant spell to do them? If that makes sense. Gisela, the Broken Blade i've cut.
Hellkite Tyrant was specifically answering an almost consistent Breya, Etherium Shaper deck. It's been a while since C16 set now, so definitely seeing it less and less. Might help with Teferi, Temporal Archmage or Urza, Lord High Artificer on occasion. It wasn't enough on it's own though, it also needed a Linvala, Keeper of Silence to go with it. Prior to this, I had nothing to compete with Breya, Etherium Shaper , had no way to win.
Lyra Dawnbringer is on my cut list now, might become the Sire Of Insanity or something like that. Mother of Runes works good with Master of Cruelties , also can protect Kaalia of the Vast , makes guys like Balefire Dragon unblockable too, or protects a Razaketh, the Foulblooded and becomes Tutor mana, or blocks an early Infect attack. Slow yes, but has some utility. Also can protect my Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker or Worldgorger Dragon causing me to win (instead of lose). It's borderline for sure, have to think about it. Aven Mindcensor feels good, looking for a way to include him as well as the Sire Of Insanity .
Steel Hellkite I tried for over a year, I would either, not be able to connect (no trample), or when I did, not enough mana to get the threat that I really needed to remove. I gave up on Steel Hellkite , also needs a Mother of Runes for support.
Ancient Tomb is back in, can't recall why I removed it. Think it screwed me one game with the colorless, but now that I've removed most of the colorless, it makes sense. Prismatic Vista isn't great, only 2 basics (can put in the snow's but for why), I like that it filters a land out (lower probability of drawing a land), but also destroys my mana-fixing as well, so agreed, unnecessary in this build, but feels weird.
I'm probably going to continue reducing CMC and reducing land counts as you've recommended, but needs some expensive 0-CMC rocks which I don't have, or some resource planning around alt. mana sources.
Overall goal is still to build for cEDH, understanding that consistency isn't going to push into more than a Tier-2.5/3 categorization, so I'll go over High Power again later lol.
Thinking about Interaction, I really don't want to go heavy into that with things like, Dismember or Lightning Bolt would rather let the opponents use their removal, and PRAY that I can sneak through a combo. If I combo T1 it has a fairly high success rate (other than a Pact of Negation which eliminated themselves) usually don't get stopped (Odd Force of Will or Swords to Plowshares here and there), T2 is still decently good, often others are still tutoring for a T3 win, but outside of T3 or beyond, usually I need to wait until someone tries to combo, and then is stopped, before I have a chance. I just go for it whenever I can though, increases winning % over trying to strategically go for it and being too late.
I think perhaps Red Elemental Blast or Pyroblast or both perhaps will be handy, Silence I wish it had Split Second (like Teferi's Protection ) because most combos don't have a "sorcery" speed interaction so doesn't stop. Can protect me on the turn I'm going for it like another Grand Abolisher but outside of that not highly useful. Will do some playtesting with it and see if it improves my completion % for combo and increases my combo win % because that's all that matters.
I decided not to go MLD, can Stax/MLD certainly is a strategy, but prefer just to ignore others, and just go for the win myself, win or lose. Plus I don't repopulate my hand nor ramp, so probably just slowing myself down instead of the opponents. Plus I don't have a Ravages of War so would require a financial commitment, would rather focus on finding a way to go for the win on T1-T3 more consistently.
I think if you found Kaalia of the Vast wasn't competitive using MLD before you dissolved that strategy, don't think it's the right course to go down either. Would rather try some out-of-the-box planning, and see if we can get her into a cEDH, which your comments are VERY helpful, and VERY appreciated. Think I've made some decent strides, still waiting for my card order to come in the mail so I can make some more cuts/adds to the deck!
I'll reply on high power shortly since it's lower priority, and hopefully you'll see my deck going in a stronger direction. Pushing that T1 probability up is key. I keep thinking there must be a T1 with Entomb and Goryo's Vengeance that I can do somehow? Razaketh, the Foulblooded would need another enabler, but there must be someone (like Griselbrand aka Griselbanned) to win with? Hmm.
Blasting Station occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.02%