Skaab Ruinator

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Skaab Ruinator

Creature — Zombie Horror

As an additional cost to cast Skaab Ruinator, exile 3 creature cards from your graveyard. Flying You may cast Skaab Ruinator from your graveyard.

wallisface on My zombie tribal deck

3 months ago

Dead_Blue_has already provided a great list of killspells. Fatal Push is usually the default go-to, though depending on your budget Infernal Grasp might be the most viable option.

The legacy cards there at the moment are Brainstorm, Ponder, and Bad River. I think for any kind of aggressive creature build those blue drawcards aren’t great anyway (because they’re not applying pressure).

As far as alternate strategies, Zombies usually do well in incorporating sacrifice and/or the graveyard. As an example that’s in the wrong colours and probably over-budget, my zombie list here is a good example of a zombie deck taking full-advantage of sacrifice mechanics, to give itself more options when it can’t win a direct beatdown. Your colours are a bit trickier to work around, but something like Blood Artist might help alongside the Carrion Feeder/Gravecrawler package. Blasting Station could also be useful. Blue-zombies in particular have access to Skaab Ruinator, which is a pretty efficient/chunky body, and possibly something to build your deck around - and going down that route both Mire Triton and Stitcher's Supplier might help get it out faster. Cryptbreaker is another interesting zombie that could be considered, depending on what you’re doing - it does play better in midrange strategies so if your deck ends up being one of attrition then its worth including.

Andramalech on MBD Zombie

5 months ago

Balaam__ I agree about building towards a goal that is non-traditional:

Building to win is so Spike, and I wanna win like Timmy or Johnny. I personally think this deck is more Johnny because at first glance.. you might miss some of these key interactions!

I.e.: things like how Zombie Infestation makes bodies that can be tossed for Scourge of Nel Toth, and then replenish your hand with Shadow of the Grave.

Boneyard Scourge is a cool card, but admittedly it isn't eternal format legal... that doesn't mean I won't use his happy ass anyways!

As far as "going second" as a precedent, I would think things like Serum Powder could help do a thing.. I even really like the idea of "going second" but having a strong "turn zero" presence to throw off your opponents (things like the Leylines or Chancellors).

Unfortunately, in competitive settings we both know it's gonna be typical "lame"/boring stuff like:

You splashed blue:

Or you splashed white:

Or, my personal favorite, if you splash green, you can have access to all my favorite removal, Graveyard staples, etc.:

And I wouldn't leave feedback about "How to" without covering the obvious ones, or at least some cards that immediately cross my mind for improvements:

There is a piece of my heart that wishes older Zombies had a more dangerous presence for this, like (I think) Lord of the Undead or Undead Warchief. Even a little slot for Soulless One.

Hell, I've even considered taking this theme to an EDH setting due to a video I saw of Jimmy Wong on Game Nights where he uses Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar as a psuedo-reanimator type build. With the inclusion of , I would especially love to use Bladewing the Risen or his newest iteration from Dominaria United. Initially, what I remembered wanting was "Zombies and Zombie Dragons".

And if we're mentioning that new set, Defiler of Flesh makes this blow up too. So many great "The Rot of the Horde" feeling cards that feed a sensation of an overwhelming wave of Undead minions!

Things like Abomination of Llanowar in a build would also be fun.

Really enjoyed our discussion about this and I'm really curious to see if/what kinda spin you would put on it!

Andramalech on MBD Zombie

5 months ago

Balaam__ I agree about building towards a goal that is non-traditional:

Building to win is so Spike, and I wanna win like Timmy or Johnny. I personally think this deck is more Johnny because at first glance.. you might miss some of these key interactions!

I.e.: things like how Zombie Infestation makes bodies that can be tossed for Scourge of Nel Toth, and then replenish your hand with Shadow of the Grave.

Boneyard Scourge is a cool card, but admittedly it isn't eternal format legal... that doesn't mean I won't use his happy ass anyways!

KingKaz on U/B Zombie Graveyard

8 months ago

Bulldawg1310 I use those in another zombie deck I have, that one has an aristocrat theme. https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/orzhov-gravecrawler-zombie-sacrifice/

For this one I wanted to focus more on the self-mill, play from the graveyard mechanic. I also think Skaab Ruinator is really cool, but have never found a good way to utilize him.

Castigus on Eldritch Evolution Zombie Deck

9 months ago

Thanks for the advice wallisface! Apart from Skaab Ruinator I actually have all them cards so could playtest all of them!

One last question, do you think Voldaren Pariah  Flip would work? Enough discard to get her out for her madness cost and could probably transform her with sacrificing tokens and Gravecrawler?

Thanks again for the help!

wallisface on Eldritch Evolution Zombie Deck

9 months ago

Two cards that could work well in the existing shell could be:

  • Champion of the Perished. You have a few ways already to keep putting Zombies into play - this card helps you profit from that by becoming a big chonky attaker.

  • Skaab Ruinator could be strong here, though you'd need to add blue to the deck, and likely also play Stitcher's Supplier to ensure your grave had enough creatures - but a 3cmc 5/6 flyer that can keep coming back is a threat not a lot of decks can cope with.

Other than that, more interaction is always good (Abrupt Decay, Assassin's Trophy, Fatal Push). As far as the cards I think are the "weak spots" to consider removing, it'd be the Planeswalkers and Amulet of Vigor, followed by Ebondeath, Dracolich.

It also feels a bit to me like your namesake card, Eldritch Evolution, doesn't actually do a lot for you here. Specifically, that card normally shines in combo decks, but less so for grindy brews like this. It feels like Collected Company would serve you better justice in assembling the go-wide zombie-hoard. (Keep in mind though, that Collected Company requires you run at least 28ish creatures to see reliable profits)

BlueSnakeMagic on Creature Collab

11 months ago

As finnicy as it can be to spread too wide, I decided to do some small edits as such.

  • Rotting Regisaur is scary as a turn 3 7/6 but... Well, he's harder for me to control, may just get dropped, and is bulky as by then I wanna be trying to take things out of my grave

  • Dropped one of the Nether Traitor's and Gravecrawler's as they both do essentially the same thing, and Nether Traitor is harder to get off in a bad field.

  • Added a playset of Merfolk Secretkeeper since alongside Stitcher's Supplier I'm much closer to guaranteeing some self mill. I also dropped Hedron Crab as though I like it (I'll test when I can to see what it does to me) I feel like the alternates I have in here work just fine, whilst also giving an easier Vengevine triggers if I need creature drops, not milling, on a turn.

  • Carrion Feeder joins the ranks, as with Gravecrawler and Nether Traitor at the very least, it lets me make something I can just pump mana into.

  • Finally, Narcomoeba. A potential free creature, maybe a Lotleth Troll discard, and if it does die? Bait for Skaab Ruinator to bite.

wallisface on Creature Collab

11 months ago

If you're interested in cards I ended up using at somestage during my Crabvine-period, here's everything I ran at one time or another, and my thoughts on playing with the card:

  • Gravecrawler: A must-have in the deck, though I found 3x was a better number to run than the full playset, as oftentimes you really only want this card to help you trigger Vengevine, and it normally doesn't do a lot else.
  • Hedron Crab: Another must-have in the deck, provided you have the landbase to support it. Without fetchlands, I don't think this would be able to get through enough card-density to be quick enough (we want a turn 2-3 vengevine swing)
  • Merfolk Secretkeeper: This felt both good and bad. Being able to mill with it immediately, and then save it for a Vengevine trigger later in the game felt pretty decent. Its also a decent blocker.
  • Stitcher's Supplier: I think I always included a playset of this in the deck, though it was always easily the worst card in the deck. Without an easy sacrifice outlet, this is just a really weak mill effect that then sits around doing nothing. It needs to die to get full value.
  • Lotleth Troll: I alternated between playing this card and not. Its one of my "pet cards" (alongside Skaab Ruinator) so I probably favored it too highly just from bias. But being able to pitch away all the cards that weren't meant to be cast did feel great, and I have had lots of games where this has steamrolled me out a win on its own... I'm just not sure its the best choice for an optimal build.
  • Satyr Wayfinder: A weird choice, but one that's done well. It can usually guarantee you'll hit your 3rd land drop, and gels pretty well with Hedron Crab, as well as giving your good odds at a turn-3 Skaab Ruinator.
  • Prized Amalgam & Vengevine: My understanding that a playset of both of these go into every Crabvine deck there is, so I don't think I need to discuss much here. They're the whole point of the deck.
  • Bloodghast: I only added these to my deck really late into playing Crabvine, but they do put up some amazing results. They combo very well with a high-fetchland deck, running alongside Altar of Dementia, to keep swinging then killing themselves to fuel the engine further. Also, probably the most aggressive way to get Prized Amalgam out of the grave if Vengevine hasn't been found yet.
  • Narcomoeba: I played these a little, and see a LOT of decks online playing them, but to be honest I don't see the hype. Very fragile, and can't come back when killed, i'm really not sold. But, again, having seen soo many decks online play them, they're probably worth considering.
  • Skaab Ruinator: My second "Pet Card", I don't think you want to run more than 1-2 in the deck, but they definitely get good results. There are a few decks where if you resolve this, it's a free-win.
  • Glimpse the Unthinkable: I started playing this late into my time with Crabvine, swapping it in, in place of the Stinkweed Imp/Golgari Thug package. There are games where you resolve this turn 2 and see all the perfect stuff hit your grave, and it becomes the most-free win you could ever hope for. But other times, you just mill yourself ten lands and non-recurable creatures, and wonder what you did to piss off the card-gods. I felt like when this card worked, it was amazing. But it also felt like there were too many times when it didn't work, and left me dead-in-the-water.
  • Golgari Thug & Stinkweed Imp: Probably my favorite way to ensure the self-mill engine keeps pumping, I ran a playset of Imp, and 2-3 Thug for the majority of my time playing Crabvine - making my build sudo-dredge. Being able to reliably keep milling felt great - and it's a good reason to justify running Lotleth Troll.
  • Creeping Chill: I'm torn on whether this card is useful or not. On one hand, being able to basically start the game at 32 life, while your opponent starts on 8, is a pretty good feeling. On the other, this doesn't help massively to help the boardstate, and there are a lot of games where its just not relevant (you can often swing for enough quite early that the extra bit of lifedrain didn't matter).
  • Silversmote Ghoul: The only reason to run this would be alongside Creeping Chill. It does feel decent, but also can be clunky with the timings of when each respective card ends up in your grave (seeing a bunch of early-Chills can be scary, as it means these guys might not be able to see play). Personally I think Bloodghast is the better choice for the 3rd "creature to recur from the grave"
  • Altar of Dementia: This actually works really well, though I wouldn't run more than 1-2 in the deck. There are a bunch of cards that just want to be in the graveyard and/or get themselves killed. Most notably Stitcher's Supplier. but also Bloodghast, Gravecrawler, and even Vengevine (assuming you can bring them back). This easily turns your attacks into very-wide landslide victories. 10/10 would recommend.
  • Carrion Feeder: I think I only ran 1-2 of these, and honestly, I think its hard to justify over Altar of Dementia or Lotleth Troll. I think it does definitely have a use-case (it seems great with Gravecrawler), but it feels a little niche to me.
  • Wonder: I only ever played one of these, in my sideboard. But it did seem very useful in some matches, particularly when it was hard to swing through the opponents creatures.
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