Condemn

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Condemn

Instant

Put target attacking creature on the bottom of its owner's library. Its controller gains life equal to its toughness.

amarthaler on EDH Arcades, the Strategist

3 months ago

Update!

Out: Condemn

In: Spellskite

Keep needing more and more protection for Arcades in my play group -_-

wallisface on Selesyna Midrange

5 months ago

Dylanbrickner good to hear! Good luck with the brewing. Some of my advice before was very centric on assuming this was an aggro build, so here’s some general/generic tips on building a more midrange deck:

  • Midrange decks generally value card quality above anything else - they aim to have a LOT of interaction and then a very small amount of dangerous threats, so normally around 14-16 creatures (all being high impact) in a deck.

  • Mono-Green will have a hard time running enough density of useful interaction to stall the game out in this way. You might want to consider adding either White or Black to the deck, as either of those colours have a ton of interactive spells that would easily allow your deck to thrive in a midrange environment (examples: Fatal Push, Infernal Grasp, Murderous Cut, Inquisition of Kozilek, Abrupt Decay, Assassin's Trophy, Path to Exile, Fateful Absence, Condemn, Dromoka's Command).

  • If you’re playing midrange, you have a lot less room for creatures (as 14-16 creatures are what these decks typically run). So, you want them to all have high impact. Some suggestions to consider include: Thragtusk (stalls the game, replaces itself), and Deathmist Raptor (good stats, late game they can be returned back to the battlefield when you draw additional copies).

  • The game is going to go long enough where running a Companion has a lot more value, if you can justify one. Kaheera, the Orphanguard fits your deck perfectly and should be a companion here.

Crow_Umbra on Isshin (Unfinished)

5 months ago

Brew discussions are one of my favorite aspects of MtG and EDH. I'll hop on Discord a couple times a month and talk with my best friend about our deck ideas. We end up chatting for a couple hours at a time as we deliberate on decisions lol.

I used to run Fervor until Rising of the Day dropped earlier this year.

  • Ogre Battledriver is also a great Haste and Power boost for your creatures that ETB.

  • A note with Elturel Survivors is that its +X buff is static, so that won't get doubled by Isshin. This is what allows the Myriad tokens to "see" the lands that your opponents control. So each Myriad copy will check for the number of lands its respective defending opponent controls.

  • If you do want a Menace anthem, Goblin War Drums is also an option for the same CMC as Pyreheart Wolf, but is a bit more removal resistant. Hard to pass up on those death touch anthems though.

  • If you like Adriana, Captain of the Guard, I'd recommend checking out Skyhunter Strike Force as a slighter CMC cheaper option, or as a redundant effect.

  • The tough thing with Lightning Runner is that it still has to attack over two turns to get the full 8 energy with Isshin on the board. Without him that gets stretched out to over 4 turns. I took a quick look at Cardkingdom, and the cheapest non-foil Aurelia is about $6.99.

  • The ETB group slug damage can get nasty once Isshin starts doubling up the token production on attacks, especially with Myrel. Some other budget effects are Corpse Knight and Witty Roastmaster. Purphoros, God of the Forge is still fairly out of budget, but a nice upgrade if you wanted to move that direction.

  • Hellrider, Commissar Severina Raine, and Brutal Hordechief are a nice suite of group slug damage that encourage you to swing with big boards. Commissar is also like a budget Skullclamp on a stick. Speaking of which, Skullclamp is a great draw piece for all your small token creatures, and should be under $10, depending on the printing.

  • I'm currently running 35 lands in my Isshin deck, along with the 3 Talismans, Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, Sword of the Animist, and some Treasure production in the form of Captain Lannery Storm, Professional Face-Breaker, and a handful of other Treasure producers.

As for the instants and sorceries, I tend not to suggest cuts as much there, since I think that's where more meta & playgroup specific tech decisions can be made. Generally speaking, I recommend cutting out single target sorcery speed removal, and saving those sorcery slots for board wipes & draw, Also try to make your instant speed removal be as target-versatile as possible to cut down on how many permanent-specific options you need to include. Here are a few thoughts I do have:

  • I'd suggest swapping Chaos Warp with Tibalt's Trickery. It's fun to catch people off guard with a red counter spell, and White & Black have a better go at removing the permanent types that Red typically can't. I think Chaos Warp is better if you're running a Red color combo that doesn't have access to Enchantment removal.

  • Terminate or Condemn can be cut or swapped with Soul Partition. Soul Partition is great since it can (temporarily) remove a troublesome nonland permanent, or save one of your own if needed. Sometimes the extra can throw off an oppoent's tempo if they really need to recast whatever you exiled, & sets them back a turn or two.

  • I think Vindicate can be replaced with Generous Gift and/or Stroke of Midnight. I think that making your suite of removal be as versatile as possible across a few cards can help you save multiple slots that are more specific/situational on what they can remove. The creature tokens created by Generous Gift & Stroke of Midnight are fairly low impact, & typically die in chump blocks or board wipes.

  • Mortify can probably replaced with Wear / Tear as an instant speed option that hits multiple targets.

  • If you want some instant speed draw, I'd recommend checking out Plumb the Forbidden. It's an excellent response to your opponents board wiping, and since you can create copies of it, the copies will dodge counter spells.

  • Fates' Reversal can probably be cut. Isshin doesn't really want single target recursion, and the Venture the Dungeon is better if you have other instances of Venturing to get its benefits. Lich-Knights' Conquest is a new option for mass recursion that you can throw some creature or treasure tokens into.

  • A little off track from the instants and sorceries, but I'd recommend swapping out Paladin Class and replacing it with Flowering of the White Tree. The Ward 1 can make your opponents look for easier targets to remove, & helps some of your more aggro Legends stick around.

NV_1980 on Gishath Spared No Expense!!!

11 months ago

I would probably choose Urza's Incubator over Knight of the Stampede, as artifacts are slightly harder to remove than creatures. It's also CMC3 instead of CMC4. It's an expensive card though, so this might have been your reason to use Knight instead. I would also choose Rampant Growth over Thunderherd Migration. They do the same thing, except Migration costs CMC3 if you don't have a Dinosaur in your hand, whereas Growth does not. Chaos Warp is a bit more expensive to cast than Condemn, but it's also more versatile.

lhetrick13 on Druids of maskwood

1 year ago

Pinkfluffyant - Thanks for the including that this is a casual deck as that changes the recommendations. The main thing that jumps out to me is why are you running 3xPit Fight and 2xTitanic Brawl? This deck thrives on token production and the vast majority of creatures/tokens are just 1/1 so having them fight another creature likely will not remove a creature from your opponent's board. You do have a few creatures with greater combat stats but with only 4 of those in the deck, the odd are not in your favor. Condemn, Path to Exile, and similar cards would likely serve this role better.

The other thing that pops out is that you lack card draw. Fungal Plots might be an interesting take as you are running Life and Limb so you can sacrifice saprolings/forests for extra draws and could easily replace some creatures with other cards that also produce saprolings for some "decent" draw potential.

lhetrick13 on G/W +1/+1 counters

1 year ago

Drestlin - Generally, I like the edits! Surprisingly you dropped the average CMC down a bit which I am not sure if that was intentional but that alone will speed things up.

For the lands, out of the 20 lands, you have 16 ways to get and 8 ways to get so you may still feel like it is tough to get when you want it but at least the deck is more of a splash of instead of like 50/50.

I do not recall but did you need graveyard hate with Lion Sash? If not, I would bet Luminarch Aspirant would be a better fit for those slots as you do not have to reconfigure and lose a body on the field to move around the counters.

Lastly, I noticed you changed out Baffling End for Journey to Nowhere. I am guessing most the decks you are playing must not run much artifact or enchantment removal given your removal (Portable Hole and Journey to Nowhere are exactly that. A buddy of mine hits me with Condemn pretty regularly which is pretty powerful if you take out a key creature or just a big hitter as most decks lack any kind of effective searching.

Hope the changes pay off!

lhetrick13 on I'll Raise you +1/+1...

1 year ago

Drestlin - I do like how Baffling End comes from one of my favorite sets! Otherwise, I feel like it is similar to a lot of the other low cost removal from out there in terms of having a condition to meet to be effective, having a negative side effect, or losing those at the expense of cost such as Fatal Push, Infernal Grasp, Bloodchief's Thirst, Assassin's Trophy, Maelstrom Pulse, Vindicate...

The cheaper removal stuff from also has limiting conditions conditions or negative side effects like Smite, Swallow Whole, Reciprocate, Condemn, etc...which was one of my problems to begin with, not being able to always removal the creatures I needed consistently with Swallow Whole. Not saying that my idea to use Retribution of the Ancients for removal is not without its faults as you have to have +1/+1 counters to lose but at least it does not give the opponent a boost in land or creatures or take a 10th of my health (which the high number or fetch, shock, or pain lands already do that and more!).

Playtesting Retribution of the Ancients so far has had mixed reviews. I have either lost playing against decks like Living End where creatures are not really a thing until they are a thing and its to late or I have gotten it out and it does work effectively to help clear the board of essential pieces or just enough so I can get unblocked creatures for the win.

JoosetheMuice on Kynaios Actual

1 year ago

Based on yesterday's games I have some suggestions!

First, the cuts: Hushwing Gryff Mina and Denn, Wildborn Rubblehulk Oath of Druids Condemn Oblation Collective Voyage Keening Stone (unless you lean more into mill) Hour of Promise and Tempt with Discovery should all go

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