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Spire of Industry
: Add to your mana pool.
, Pay 1 life: Add one mana of any colour to your mana pool. Activate this ability only if you control an artifact.
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Spire of Industry Discussion
12 hours ago
@Wiggins So to clarify, I believe you're saying 1 Remand is Masters and the other is LP Ravnica? I don't mind regardless, but I'm just curious. I would also be interested in a Manriki-Gusari and a Spire of Industry, if that's cool with you.
So then it would be my 2x foil Remands, 1x Sram, Senior Edificer, and 1x promo Xathrid Necromancer for your 2x Remand (whatever the sets are, 1 being LP), 1x Manriki-Gusari, 1x Spire of Industry, and 1x Daze. How does that sound?
Also, if you do happen to come across that Teferi, I'd definitely like to work him in here somehow! =D
4 days ago
Spire of Industry? Little over a dollar, but really good mana fixing.
1 week ago
I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert on this kind of deck, so I'm going to try to keep my comments fairly generic.
Regarding your lands: Sulfur Falls seems preferable to the Vivid Creek and Vivid Crag. Those seem odd inclusions in a two color deck. Even Temple of Epiphany is better, isn't it? Would a Spire of Industry also work, since you're artifact-heavy enough to have Mishra's Workshop? There's also Shivan Reef or Steam Vents.
2 weeks ago
Ah yes, much like the Spire of Industry vs City of Brass debacle. That's a tricky one, isn't it? Oh well, thanks for response. You seem like you really know what you're doing with this deck, keep us updated if you ever take this to a tournament or something like that. I run a Restore Balance deck that I bring to small tournaments every now and then, and I'd love to see the results of another niche-type deck.
2 weeks ago
No worries! We all make mistakes and I love the opportunity to explain some of the math behind choosing to play City of Brass over Spire of Industry in this deck specifically. All the best to you!! Thanks again for the comments!
The Laboratory Maniac + Spoils of the Vault kill is insane! It's really hard to pull off and removal can really mess you up if you are not prepared for it, but when it works the look on an opponent's face when they lose to Ad Nauseam without the card Ad Nauseam being cast is very satisfying. Most Ad Nauseam players I find can forget this line so good on that player for realizing it was his best option. Can you link the gameplay here? I'm always looking for a good spoils kill. Also, just as an aside, I always name Rowdy Crew when going for the spoils kill, just in case you were wondering. I'm sure you already understand how this works but until I put it in the description of the deck I'll quickly explain how it works for people passing through: basically like Ad Nauseam Spoils of the Vault causes loss of life as opposed to damage allowing us to go deep in the negatives. Thanks for pointing this out, its one of the cooler more unexpected things the deck can do!
2 weeks ago
Atleon I am a huge fan of true singleton decks as well. I don't play LED because pitching my had is not going to win me the game. There are some great LED combos but they are usually in white.
Cephalid Coliseum is great because it comes into play untapped, taps for a colored mana, and has an additional ability if I need it. Sometimes you have a piece of your combo in your hand, and it's not supposed to be there, so I need cards to help resolve that problem.
As for Toxic Deluge it is the best mass removal card in the game. It gets around virtually everything. Your life points don't matter if you lose, so if I can take myself down to 1 with Toxic Deluge and pull out a win because of it, that's always worth it. It took me a while to get used to spending lots of life on Sylvan Library and Toxic Deluge, but once I did my games got quite a bit better.
Spire of Industry is another great land. It comes into play untapped, and if I have an artifact, it can tap for any color. The hardest part of the mana is getting lands that have good synergy, that come into play untapped, and are not a basic land. But it is the mana slot that I do tinker with the most.
2 weeks ago
This deck looks sick! I love Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact decks. True singleton just looks so cool. Very, very tuned. Have you thought about playing a Lion's Eye Diamond to help facilitate early wins?
How has Cephalid Coliseum worked for you? I play a sort-of-competitive Seasons Past combo deck with Thrasios, Triton Hero and Tymna the Weaver at the helm, and I am thinking about putting in more ways to stock my graveyard pre-combo. Cephalid Coliseum seems like a pretty cool way to do it, especially with ways to recur it.
Similarly, how about Toxic Deluge? I played it in Doomsday Zur for a while, but in a slightly slower deck like mine I am a little worried about the cost in life, but I think it'd be worth it.
The only card in your deck that gives me a little pause is Spire of Industry. Do you reliably get to turn it on?
2 weeks ago
Firstly, thank you for the comment!!!!! It's much appreciated. As to your point while Spire of Industry has it's upsides, in a deck like Ad Nauseam City of Brass is the better option, the reason for this is simply because the deck doesn't play enough artifacts to make spire operate to it's full potential, if we actually break it down on turn one we can't play any artifact to turn on spire; Lotus Bloom which in itself only accounts for 4 slots in the deck is the closest thing and even then it's status as a 4 of means it is a roughly 39% chance we have an opening seven with it in hand, and this doesn't even consider the chances of having both a Lotus Bloom and Spire of Industry in hand. The decks that use spire to the fullest, lantern, affinity, and KCI, are almost entirely composed of artifacts making them ideal for the artifact check on spire. Here though often times spire will only ever tap for colorless which is not what we want and it even messes up our timing here, with it if it's played turn one unlike City of Brass we can not immediately use it to Sleight of Hand (preferably) or Serum Visions and start digging immediately, it also messes up our Pentad Prism math as if it's played without an artifact if we go to play prism on turn two the check wont be satisfied and the prism can only have one counter at best, far from ideal whereas city ensures this play can always be made. This deck really needs the coloured Mana and spire just narrows that too much so while spire in an artifact based deck is strictly better as you say, ad Nauseam is no such thing and therefore City of Brass must be seen as strictly better in this instance.
Additionally as an aside point when siding with this deck the first card usually on the chopping block is Pentad Prism so if that's the case, let's say we cut all 4 then there is only a 39% chance we have an artifact for spire and even then the earliest that artifact comes down is turn 4.
Thank you again for the comment!