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Miren, the Moaning Well
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Miren, the Moaning Well Discussion
21 hours ago
COLORLESS IS BEST COLOR
Really though, no worries about the essay. I like when people take the time to give well-reasoned feedback honestly, and if you saw the description you know I can get pretty long-winded as well. And I'm about to.
Glad to see you have the good taste to realize which Kozilek is really best. Annihilator is just brutal, and I adore it. Also, Butcher does have a lot more consistent draw, and while Kozilek, the Great Distortion can draw more in one cast, you can't Strionic Resonator his cast trigger.
The price listed on here is mostly due to price spikes and generally high-balled prices on here. I don't think I've put as much as $1000 even into this deck, merely a lot of time, some good trades, and a few very well timed purchases (good lord am I glad I went for the Mana Crypt when it was down to $70.)
The reason I haven't really gone for any stax is because honestly, my meta's not a huge fan of such effects. I've considered the Orbs, absolutely, but frankly I'm not going to be the one to start another arms race in my group. That said, Torpor Orb really should find a slot, because literally the only thing it stops in here is Solemn Simulacrum , which while unfortunate, is definitely an acceptable loss given what it DOES stop. My stance on said stax effects could change, given I move to another, more cutthroat meta or my current one powercreeps to the point where I absolutely must slot the Orbs and such in. You're not wrong in your assessment there by any means though.
Urzatron has only ever been assembled like, once in this deck, so I probably could ditch it for more useful utility lands. And a Strip Mine . I don't know how the hell I haven't added one of those by now either. An older version of this list actually did run Miren, the Moaning Well as well, but I ended up moving it to my Kokusho deck as I only have the one at the moment. I'll see about getting some new things slotted in there.
I like Key to the City as a way to grant unblockable. Usually I could care less about the draw trigger, though I do use it when I feel I can. Batterskull could be cut honestly, I kind of rush slotted that in over Planar Bridge because I noticed that with Bridge all I ever did was go digging for Paradox Engine and a way to go infinite and barf my deck onto the table, and honestly that got boring for me. Ashnod's Altar could lead to some silly shenanigans, I'll have to see about getting at least one of those. Mirrorworks is actually a card I've been on the fence about myself. Like, sometimes it's a dead cast that doesn't get a lot done, sometimes I get dual Monoliths and have all the mana, all the time. It'll probably go when I get my hands on one of those sweet new Ugins honestly, because I NEED HIM HE'S GREAT HOLY CRAP. I've also considered Staff of Domination here, but I'm not sure if it would be too powerful or not. Might test that out. Memory Jar is a card I've used a bit in my Hanna deck, and it's obscenely good with her recursion. I assume it would be great here, I just need to get another.
Always nice to hear from someone else who knows just how damn fun colorless is. I wish you good luck and lots of fast mana opening hands.
22 hours ago
Colorless is the best color. I'm always happy to see someone else playing the best Kozilek. And with a pretty dang good budget too, wow. I did my best to read the comments, but I can't promise I won't repeat some of their suggestions.
Can I talk you into some stax? Our precious artifact babies need all the protection from evil Merciless Eviction 's and nasty Bane of Progress es. I know that the primary strategy for dealing with the main artifact-destroyers at the table is to hit them hard and fast, but that won't happen every time. Shut down those pesky forests with Winter Orb . Slow down those speedy decks with Tangle Wire (seriously though, this card is the nuts). Torpor Orb can't hurt either. A well timed Kozilek into Static Orb gets the Ws almost immediately.
Do you ever get much value out of the Urza lands? Miren, the Moaning Well is solid because sac outlets are good stuff. Deserted Temple is a budget Candelabra. Scavenger Grounds can save your butt against graveyard shenanigans. And dude, where's your Strip Mine ?
I infer from your list that you enjoy the smashy side of this deck, while I prefer the speedy combo assembly aspect of Kozi. I understand Fireshrieker 's value of one-shotting some poor sap, but Batterskull seems a little too low value, as does Key to the City . I fill those slots with ways to get Kozi back in my hand/command zone, like Ashnod's Altar and Erratic Portal .
How much value do you get from Mirrorworks ? I felt it was a little too slow and cut it from my list a while back. A 5 drop I'm currently interesting in trying out is Memory Jar . Another I'm on the cusp of purchasing is Staff of Domination , because everyone says it's amazing. If you're ever interested in yet another ramp artifact, Kyren Toy is delightfully weird. I'm pretty hype for Newgin , too.
You're doing God's work, colorless player, keep it up. Really fantastic list. Sorry for the essay.
3 weeks ago
l7lancer, you can make infinite life by either targeting Task Force with Outrider en-Kor 's ability unlimited times and then sacrificing it to Miren, the Moaning Well , or you can making infinite mana and use Staff of Domination .
2 months ago
This is really cool, I don't think I've ever seen this as a commander!
Judith, the Scourge Diva seems like it could do serious work in this deck.
I hope that this could give you some things to think about!
2 months ago
Ooo, ooo, pick on me! I have an idea! Martyr's Bond could be decent if you wanted to go with that. Phyrexian Tower and Miren, the Moaning Well are some good sack outlets that are hard to remove since they are lands.
2 months ago
Ok--So here are a couple suggestions on lands--staples--if you will, that I include with this style deck/commander etc that I mentioned briefly above.
Fetchlands are great with Omnath and all of your creatures with Landfall like Avenger of Zendikar More the merrier. Some of the fetches have been reprinted, some haven't. So depending on the one you want, there could be a wide range in price. There are Budget equivalents like Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse and Mountain Valley there's a couple others too. These traditionally aren't as good because they only get Basic lands and they come into play tapped. However, they get the job done on Landfall triggers should you need an option while you're waiting to upgrade to that Wooded Foothills this one, luckily, has been reprinted in Khans block I believe. It wouldn't be a bad idea to look at a few others while we were at it though. Windswept Heath might be good Blighted Woodland and Naya Panorama better or cheaper options for sure.
Color Balance: Nothing sucks more than drawing a bunch of one color mana--so lets even it out some with lands that tap for either color.
Rootbound Crag , Stomping Ground , Reflecting Pool , Command Tower , Raging Ravine Utility Lands: Maximize your land. Make it work for you.
Kessig Wolf Run , Rogue's Passage , Thespian's Stage , Miren, the Moaning Well , Temple of the False God , Skarrg, the Rage Pits
There are others--Tribal specific that are good-- Contested Cliffs for example would be good if you had more beasts or Primal Beyond if you had more Elementals.
Now-- I had thought about it some more since I commented earlier today and I have a few more suggestions. I'm just going to suggest the cards, I won't offer cuts at this time, because I'm not looking to change your deck completely, just give you some thoughts if you were wanting to tap into your Commander more or just be cool fun R/G beats deck etc. I'll leave that up to you. Happy to help in any way though.
Synergy: There are a few other cards that would work well with Omnath and I'll list here.
Solemn Simulacrum The Lonely Robot draws a card and gets you a land = Landfall trigger/ramp.
Scapeshift Cast this when you have Omnath and it could be awesome. Cast it with Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle in play, and thats a lot of damage. Prismatic Omen Doesn't care what land you get--just saying.
Craterhoof Behemoth takes all those shiney new Elementals and/or Plant tokens from Avenger of Zendikar and makes them Big stompy.
Warstorm Surge I'll just leave this here.
Skyshroud Claim Yeah, in play.
About this one particular card:
Burst Lightning Ok, I do think you should probably swap this card with something that straight kills something gives you a little more versatility. Perhaps something like Atarka's Command or Decimate or Skullcrack or Beast Within or Banefire
Other EDH Staples and Protection:
Chord of Calling
Some other cards to save towards I guess.
I hope this helps. I rambled.
2 months ago
In most cases yes Utter End / Anguished Unmaking are better than Mortify . However, in this deck Mortify is better since it gives a death trigger. Martial Coup was something I was considering when I was building the deck, but I cut it for other cards.
Thanks for the suggestions!
2 months ago
She has such an interesting Ability!
Miren, the Moaning Well occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%