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Mangara of Corondor
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
: Exile Mangara of Corondor and target permanent.
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Mangara of Corondor Discussion
1 week ago
I consider your deck as very thoughtful although I have different suggestions for it:
I would reduce the number of plains of 3. Add one extra Karakas because, well, this explains it: www.reddit.com/r/DeathAndTaxesMTG/comments/8xequ0/how_many_karakas_in_legacy_death_and_taxes_is_the/. I understand you are aware of the combo Karakas + Mangara of Corondor ... And then add 2 Cavern of Souls .
consider 3-4 Leonin Relic-Warder instead of Disenchant . For 3 reasons : theme reasons (Because you have already clerics/leonins in the deck ; you completely exile the artefact/enchantment, preventing the opponent to reuse them from the graveyard) ; and you may play it for free with the Aether Vial .
1 week ago
The swords ( FaI & FaF ) serve as protection to varying degrees, but honestly the worst way for Alesha to die is getting blocked by something bigger. If they use spot removal on her that's one less for getting rid of a combo piece (Karmic Guide, for example) and as I'm running cards like Animate Dead , Reanimate , etc. this can be good for me. Not that I wouldn't feel her loss - being slowed down sucks too.
The equipment slots unfortunately are tight (I even cut Skeleton Key , which seems great...might add it back) and truthfully I only added greaves back in (and Anger ) upon adding Mangara of Corondor to the deck so I could use him right away (not with Alesha, obviously). I guess Whispersilk Cloak might be good too, but I'm thinking the swords are better.
The things I'm contemplating atm are whether I should run any moon effects ( Blood Moon + Magus of the Moon ) which are incredibly good but would require adding more basics to the deck, and being able to combo at instant speed at the end of an opponent's turn with something like Through the Breach (utility use with cards like Ashen Rider , Academy Rector , etc.) or Scout's Warning .
I will cut that Bloodthrone Vampire sometime too, but I don't have any other free sac outlets on hand and want at least 3 (I actually had Ashnod's Altar in, but cut it since the vamp lady is recurring. Infinite colorless mana isn't as exciting when you need to add another card for it to be good.)
1 month ago
Syrathia I worked in both Tithe and Mikaeus, the Lunarch . I took out Selvala, Explorer Returned and Dosan the Falling Leaf as I just couldn't get enough value from them in my pods. I've had to deal with a LOT of Gaddock Teeg s lately so I also replaced Oblation with Mangara of Corondor so that I have at least one piece of removal searchable with Captain Sisay .
1 month ago
hmm a list with the rarely remembered 3x copies combo of Fiend Hunter and/or Restoration Angel, (fiend hunter holds down either another hunter or an angel, then an angel or hunter hits that hunter for the loop), you could put any soul sister or other etb matters abilities to abuse it. (or Seraph Sanctuary)
if you run some colorless utility lands, (Field of Ruin and Ghost Quarter are popular to fight tron, which looks to be a really tough matchup for this deck) Moorland Haunt is probably the most budget I can think of, you can run Eldrazi Displacer over the navigator which is massively cheaper on a mana base (I also suggest cutting the leviathans for the same reason, in any modern game vs any quarter decent deck the leviathan is never getting cast without you already having won the game) and is a lot less restrictive in which target you can flicker with it (you can even use it defensively).
Oh Guildmages' Forum could be perfect for a colorless land with colored mana option with a utility (that is budget). Also Irrigated Farmland is dirt cheap dual land option as well that can even interact with sun titan I would suggest using those over the tapped dual lands (still weird cove is common and river was uncommon in that commander set...) you add dimes to the budget for more effective lands.
hmm now that I look at it you could probably cut blue all together Militia Bugler and Blade Splicer are both fairly good creatures and you could just increase the count of the various white creatures, Thraben Inspector is also a rather good 1 drop. I think Kitchen Finks got a massive price drop (UMA reprint), Gideon's Lawkeeper is also very similar functioning to a bounce creature, Mangara of Corondor is also rather good with flicker effects.
I should stop now... mostly skimming around death and taxes atm anyway now that I think about it.
1 month ago
I'm testing following cards atm:
Others: A second Cavern of Souls for a Human/Angels only deck
1 month ago
I think people underestimate the power of cards like Soltari Champion. Sure it doesn't look better than Honor of the Pure, but after factoring in that it's a creature, that is basically unblockable and that can be the target of teshar's ability, you'll see how it's that much better for what we're trying to do. Same can be said about effects like Capashen Unicorn.
If you're putting sacrifice effects on the list I would suggest Mangara of Corondor, which even in the worst case scenario it's an exile effect.
Two cards that missed me when I wrote the article were, Frontline Medic and Lieutenant Kirtar. The first is amazing as a way to force through damage and the second is a flying beater that has a strong removal stapled to it.
1 month ago
As I am told to do by my overlords, Captain Sisay is the commander you want for all of your EDH decks. It can find Gaddock Teeg, Trostani Discordant, Karametra, God of Harvests, Chorus of the Conclave, Paradox Engine (for an instant win with Mox Amber, Mox Opal, Seton, Krosan Protector, and then line up any win of three drops like Bow of Nylea, Bontu's Monument, and Mikaeus, the Lunarch) and Dragonlord Dromoka, as well as many other good utility cards like Avacyn, Angel of Hope, other tutors like Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, Inventors' Fair, etc. and removal like Urza's Ruinous Blast, Mangara of Corondor, and many other great inclusions.
2 months ago
I love Jhoira, it is a storm deck with a crazy powerful commander, two synergistic artifact colors, and the ability to run Mox Amber to its fullest extent, a card that screams commander, yet cannot be played in a variety of decks for many reasons. Captain Sisay actually also uses it to a great extent, abusing the commander that can fetch it because it is legendary to cast cards off of Paradox Engine, but again, that is besides the point.
Jhoira commonly needs to be all in to often storm off perfectly, and though by using Retract, Hurkyl's Recall, and Rebuild effects you can increase the amount of cards you draw to keep going off. Using effects that reduce mana costs is the backbone of the deck, and it is easy to see why this works when your commander can be cast using the artifacts you storm off with after she hits.
The issue comes with not depleting resources before you cast Jhoira, keeping jhoira on the field, meaning you have to run enough countermagic and removal to stop opposition, and also have enough to storm off after her, not fizzling when you draw dead lands or dead interaction. This balance requires a lot of work on the pilot to know when you have to mulligan to find more interaction. This isn't easy even for the best pilots in the best decks for the list.
Compare that to a stax deck that can shut off this deck with a well positioned Force of Will, Silence, Swords to Plowshares, or Dismember can not only stop you for a turn, but for many until you can rebuild at which point if a Rule of Law or Arcane Laboratory, Damping Matrix, Thorn of Amethyst, Sphere of Resistance or other random stax card hits you your out until you find an answer, of which your deck needs to run little of for fear of drawing too many when you try to combo out.
Not to menton some stax is anti-artifact, Kataki, War's Wage, Stony Silence, Null Rod, and a lot others will be nearly impossible to win through. The same is true for a lot of decks, but storm in particular due to their reliance on engines like Jhoira, Ad Nauseam or even Paradox Engine itself. These cards have answers, and will almost always lose given that the answer is found. It is sad, but the issue with storm.
Jeleva, Kess, and Yidris storm run tutors and are in black to make up for this, finding their engine before the opposition can answer it, but the card they find it Ad Nauseam, whereas even though Jhoira has already been found, being the commander of the deck, creatures are the easiest things to remove, and this is at sorcery speed to cast, so is weak to everything in essence. This means it is a weak engine, but still fast.
The biggest issue with Jhoira I haven't gone over though. Storm decks run storm cards. They run cards like Brainstorm, Dark Ritual, and Manamorphose if they are in color, these cards let you storm off with or without the engine, Kess Storm can go off with just some good cards in hand, Jhoira cannot do that. You can't storm off with Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Lotus Petal, and a Sensei's Divining Top, it just doesn't work, but with Jhoira it is a perfect kind of hand, you can get her out turn one and have mana up for more stuff, however if your engine is off to any reason, the deck sucks really bad, as sad as it is.
Sisay is a stax deck, not a combo deck, I mean it runs a combo, but that is a finisher after it combos out, you can read more on it, but you are right, it isn't fast, control decks aren't often.
The combo is two turn win, Sisay hits, next turn you fetch Paradox Engine, cast it, cast something, untap sisay, fetch Mox Amber, then Mox Opal, Seton, Krosan Protector, fetch Bontu's Monument, Bow of Nylea, and Mikaeus, the Lunarch, let Mike die, get 3, use bow to put Mike on the bottom, fetch it, then loop this. Monument kills by draining each opponent.
This is all fetchable from the command zone, but also so it stax pieces like Linvala, the Preserver, Kataki, War's Wage, protection like Dosan the Falling Leaf and Yavimaya Hollow and removal like Mangara of Corondor. This outclasses Jhoira on the basis of straight consistency.
Frogger isn't my forteit, so I cannot vouch for it, but going against the deck is rough in many cases, it storms off through the graveyard, so my removal doesn't work. More in-depth descriptions elsewhere are on how it is so fast, but it uses a discard outlet and Frogger to cycle it's deck infinitely, a twocard combo with the commander, of which there are 7 or so other halves. That is insane consistency for combo decks often. Ask someone else for details.
Najeela can be made super fast, control, stax, what have you, it is a five color general with many two card combos with the commander, so that the deck is able to be blisteringly fast, or a slower deck, it is fully up to the pilot, unlike other decks in which the best variants are known. Druids' Repository is a great enchantment that goes through most stax, and it the most popular combo with najeela. She also is 3 mana, and has an occasional win under stax if the commander can just swing around like a kreno deck that doesn't die to Cursed Totem.
I hope you understand my take on this issue, and have cleared up the inherit flaws on jhoira and the reason some decks are better than it, not to say it is trash, just that as is, the deck isn't great in the meta.
Mangara of Corondor occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.0%