Voice of Many

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Voice of Many

Creature — Elf Druid

When Voice of Many enters the battlefield, draw a card for each opponent who controls fewer creatures than you.

MeneerDutchy on Henzie “The Toolman” Taylor ETB

8 months ago

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Guerric on Lathril's Relentless Elves

1 year ago

As for things to cut, here is my list-

Cards to definitely cut- 1) Abomination of Llanowar he's just a big, dumb of elf with a target on his back for removal. There are better options. At least Drove of Elves has hexproof, but I wouldn't even play that. The only one I'd play is Jagged-Scar Archers, and that's because of its utility against flyers.

2) Elvish Rejuvenator He gets a land, but doesn't actually ramp you. And that is if you get a land- you might whiff. You have better options. If you really want this effect Sylvan Ranger costs one less mana and is guaranteed to not whiff.

3) Eyeblight Cullers 5cmc is just too much for something that only gives you three tokens on its death, and you have no mill synergy.

4) Golgari Findbroker This card was made for draft. It just costs too much for what it does. Its not just the four cmc, 2 and 2 is a high opportunity casting cost.

5) Harald, King of Skemfar He's basically a 3/2 with menace that replaces himself. The clause on Tyvar might seem good if you add him (which is good idea, btw- he'll be worth it even if he doesn't stick around too long), but even then you have to remember that he won't find Tyvar the majority of the time. Again, its nice he replaces himself and gives you some selection, but there are better options.

6) Jaspera Sentinel Dorks are great, but you have to tap two creatures for one mana, which is a bad rate in elves. There are better dorks suggested above.

7) Masked Admirers This is one of those cards that Wizards stuffs into every precon conceivable, even though its bad in most of them. We don't need it here.

8) Thornbow Archer He's only draining one life for each time he attacks. That isn't enough to justify his slot.

9) Voice of Many You get maybe three cards for four mana at most? He's not the worst and he does draw cards, but I've never liked him.

10) Voice of the Woods This might sound like a good use of your elves, but its better to pump your elves than to use them to summon elementals. Plus he costs five to cast.

11) Tergrid's Shadow We have a joke about this card in our playgroup, but in general it isn't what we want. Letting your opponents pick what they sacrifice means you'll rarely hit the thing you need to get rid of. You might as well just play Doom Blade or any other premium removal card in these colors. There are a lot!

12) Poison the Cup They just put this in the precon because foretell was a Kaldheim theme, but there are so many cheap (both in real world and mana cost) black removal cards that this one shouldn't make the cut.

13) Roots of Wisdom You're better off just playing Harmonize or getting one of the consistent draw pieces I suggested. This card won't do a lot for the slot in your deck.

14) Return Upon the Tide This just costs too much mana, and you have other better recursion pieces out there.

Cards to think about removing

1) Serpent's Soul-Jar This card could be good, but could also be a trap. Your graveyard is a resource, and exiling everything from it prevents mass recursion. Also, your opponents can target this with removal and you'll never get your stuff back. I'd probably just play Haunting Voyage, Patriarch's Bidding, and Living Death to get your goodies back for more fun!

2) Twinblade Assassins He does draw cards, and is probably at least as good as Phyrexian Arena while he lives. So you might keep him, but he costs 5cmc, so if you have enough card draw you might want to cut him.

3) Numa, Joraga Chieftain He can pump your stuff. But Kindred Summons, Genesis Wave, or the above mentioned Torment of Hailfire and Exsanguinate are much better ones!

4) Nullmage Shepherd This can allow us to remove problematic stuff. But tapping four elves is a bigger cost than we often want to pay. Something to think on.

5) Sylvan Messenger Again, this card does get us some draw, much like Lead the Stampede which I used to play does. I've just never found it good enough to include though. Nonetheless, you want at least ten pieces of draw, and this does count as that!

6) Eyeblight Massacre This will kill a lot of stuff, but will often leave what you most need to kill alive. Ezuri's Predation is a recently reprinted board wipe that is now more affordable and will wreck your opponents while leaving your stuff intact. In Garruk's Wake and Plague Wind cost a 25 cents each and will hose everyone but you, and because you are playing elves you can afford their cmc!

7) Ruthless Winnower Having played against this card I can attest that it is annoying, but your opponents will often kill it before it can have too much impact. If it were a lower cmc it would be a guaranteed in, at least it will take the heat off of more important cards. It is high at 5cmc though. Keeping it might be the right choice, but I'd at least consider it.

Omniscience_is_life on Wait wait wrong egg WRONG EGG | **Primer**

1 year ago

Some cuts/adds I'm pondering at the moment, getting back into this deck:

  1. My whole recursion package needs to go. Emeria Shepherd doesn't have enough Plains to function properly, and the days of the Zacama, Primal Calamity combo are long since past. Once and Future is overcosted and replaceable... with the lovely Noxious Revival. This is probably the most direct upgrade, all the other cards I'm cutting (e.g. Shepherd) don't have straight-across replacements.

  2. Nyxbloom Ancient may well be cut if I decide a card like Protean Hulk, Treeshaker Chimera, Voice of Many, or Combustible Gearhulk is better. The Ancient is just a generic value piece, and I'm trying to cut down as much on those as I can. It does, however, allow for some of the crazy-long turns that I take to work, so I'm really unsure if it's gonna go or not.

  3. Brainstone, Kavu Lair, and Flawless Maneuver are all looking really spicy right now. Unsure as to what cuts would allow them to come in.

  4. Greater Gargadon might come out for Towering Titan, as cracking into a vanilla 9/7 is a bit underwhelming. The Gargadon is great at being an uninteractable sac outlet, but I do like the trample grant on Towering Titan. Again, unsure.

colinboyden on Primal Genesis

1 year ago

Replacing Commander's Insignia with Mirari's Wake Replacing Tectonic Hellion with Armada Wurm Replacing Scaretiller with Rampant Growth Replacing Voice of Many with Garruk's Uprising Replacing Cliffside Rescuer with Swiftfoot Boots Replace Roc egg with one of these ghoofprints of the stag, luminarch ascension, moonsilver spear,seraphic greatsword, serra the benevolent, starnheim unleashed,

SaberTech on Yikes! Humans!

1 year ago

Shamanic Revelation is a good way to refuel you hand after playing out a bunch of creatures and tokens. If you end up adding more ways of pumping your creatures then it might also gain you a fair bit of life. The big issue with the spell though is that a tribal deck often really needs to draw cards after being hit with a board wipe, and having an empty board is when Shamanic Revelation is at its worst. If you are able to cast it right after dumping most of your hand then the payoff can be pretty big, but if you don't have at least 3 creatures out then it's not really worth paying the 5 mana. At least having Sigarda in your command zone gives you a way of putting some creatures back on the board after a wipe so Shamanic Revelation can quickly become a viable play again.

Harmonize doesn't draw as many cards but at least it's consistent regardless of board state. Beast Whisperer is generally worth the cost to buy it for the extra draw power that it adds to decks. Guardian Project is also great but the cost to buy a copy is uncomfortably high, but Tireless Tracker is slightly more affordable. The card Welcoming Vampire that is in the Crimson Vow set is another nice draw engine that White is getting, and Sigarda's ability to create tokens on other people's turns helps to make the most of the vampire's ability.

If you ever end up pushing the deck towards more of a +1/1 counter theme, then Armorcraft Judge and Inspiring Call might be worth looking at. If you focus more on producing tokens then there's Voice of Many.

multimedia on Ghired Quartermaster

1 year ago

Hey, nice version with such a low budget. Only 40 cents or less for each card is an interesting idea.

Even though you're building a very low budget deck still consider some basic deck building guidelines to structure your deck? A basic structure is helpful when building any causal Commander deck to give you a good start.

The numbers in this basic structure are just a start, not all areas are covered and the final numbers may be more or less for each part. A basic structure doesn't need anything but the basics, you can add other cards to make up other areas that you want specifically with your Commander after. 10 ramp and 10 draw sources help to make a smoother gameplay experience. The balance of extra mana from ramp with the draw sources theoretically helps to have mana and cards in your hand to cast with the mana. Creatures can be part of the numbers and cards that have more than one effect that can go in many different areas are excellent and should be priority for cards to play.

Compare the above example to your current deck structure:

  • 33 lands
  • 26 creatures
  • 16 removal sources
  • 3 ramp sources
  • 1 draw source

The amount of creatures is a fine number, but there's disproportionate amount of removal compared to other areas. 33 lands with only 3 ramp sources, two of which are 4 CMC and 5 CMC are risky numbers because you can potentially get land screw (not drawing lands) as well as mana screwed (not having enough mana to cast spells). Having major potential for both of these to happen in a game can be really frustrating and is really bad for gameplay.

I believe you can never have enough draw in Commander since draw keeps the game going for you making gameplay much more fun. Harmonize is a good card, but only having it for draw is not enough.


Ghired and the other impactful cards here are high CMC and you want to get to five mana for Ghired quicker than only relying on your land drops. More ramp can help and the best ramp to add such as Sol Ring and Arcane Signet are budget cards. Unfortunately, they aren't 40 cents or less though, here's some to consider:

3 CMC or less ramp is preferred to have these plays in the early turns of the game which is best time to cast ramp since then it helps you to cast Ghired and all the other high CMC cards you want to cast later on in the game. You don't want to be casting 5 CMC or even 4 CMC ramp instead you want to use that amount of mana along with ramp that you cast before it to cast other more impactful spells.


Lots of draw especially repeatable draw sources are important to have in Commander. Unfortunately, because of the budget restriction for cards doesn't give you a lot of options, but here some to consider:

  • Garruk's Packleader: repeatable draw any time a 3 or more power creature you control ETB including creature tokens. Rhino's have 4 power.
  • Voice of Many
  • Zephyr Boots: repeatable draw, can also give equipped creature flying evasion.
  • Mouth / Feed: only can cast Mouth first to create a 3/3 Hippo then Feed can only be cast from your graveyard.
  • Mask of Memory: repeatable draw, equip any big creature you control who has evasion such as trample or flying.
  • Shamanic Revelation

Creatures who can draw are nice with Flamerush Rider to make a copy of them to then populate with Ghired. This interaction is very good with Garruk's Packleader since the more Packleaders you control the more draw you get especially when you populate a Rhino as well as each Packleader triggers to draw from the other. Three of these suggestions care about the amount of creatures you control which is good when playing tokens.

I've given you a lot to think about, but I offer more advice in another comment if you would like, including cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.

ThatTroutThing on Card creation challenge

1 year ago

Voice of the Masses

Creature - Elf Shaman

Whenever you cast a creature spell, draw a card if you control more creatures than any other opponent. Then create a 1/1 green elf creature token if any opponent controls more creatures than you.

2/3


Voice of Many feels underwhelming, a 3/3 for 4 MV that might draw you cards, depending on how many opponents you have and whether or not they have more creatures than you. I made it less situational, and changed the trigger so that it's not just a one and done etb.

Next challenge: Create blue, black, or white ramp, and flavor it to match that color.

channelfireball12345 on The Cheapest cEDH Selvala

2 years ago

Last comment lol: Love to see Voice of Many in here as well. I've always liked the card; it's very underrated imo.

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