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Great Oak Guardian
Creature — Treefolk
Flash (You may cast this spell at any time you could cast an instant.)
When Great Oak Guardian enters the battlefield, creatures target player controls get +2/+2 until end of turn. Untap them.
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Great Oak Guardian Discussion
4 days ago
I see you have Freed from the Real . I bet you'd like to hear that there's another similar enchantment: Pemmin's Aura . A card like Junktroller , Reito Lantern , and Epitaph Golem can restart the cycle (especially if you run out of 5/6/7 mana creatures to search for). You seem to lack creatures at converted mana cost 7, so I suggest Avenger of Zendikar and Protean Hulk .
I HIGHLY suggest Illusionist's Bracers . It is gold in your deck.
If you like comboing, then there's options. Bounding Krasis is also a good enabler, followed by Breaching Hippocamp into Chakram Retriever . You'll want to keep him. Great Oak Guardian also does the trick. Kiora's Follower and Fatestitcher also pull more out of her ability. Since you're sacrificing creatures.
1 week ago
Lemme see, well you dropped some untappers 3 minutes ago according to the revisions so here is what is left: Quirion Ranger, Wirewood Symbiote, Concordant Crossroads, Vitalize, Dramatic Reversal, Scryb Ranger, Kiora's Follower, Pestermite, Deceiver Exarch, Bounding Krasis, Intruder Alarm, Thousand-Year Elixir, Archaeomancer (used with Spellseeker on 3 for Vitalize or Dramatic Reversal), Breaching Hippocamp, Disciple of the Ring, Chakram Retriever, Woodland Bellower (used to fetch a Bounding Krasis), and Great Oak Guardian for untappers/haste enablers for Vannifar, that is 18, with 2 undesirable lands excluding their untapping abilities, Minamo, School at Water's Edge and Wirewood Lodge.
Otherwise, the commander-centric cards don't end there. Cards that are otherwise generally bad outside of a strategy aiming to sacrifice creatures as fodder like Dosan the Falling Leaf (does see play in Sisay because it is legendary), Manglehorn (does see play in blood pod because of Birthing Pod) or a card like Archetype of Endurance in the deck specifically to be fetched after you sacrifice Protean Hulk to Prime Speaker Vannifar are clearly bad outside of this commander centric build. This means 23 clearly commander centric cards.
1 week ago
d3sden0va, I've been trying to make a Vannifar combo deck for the last 2 days straight and I can tell you have seriously thought about this deck and that it is really good, so kudos to you. Even so though, I still have some questions.
Where does this deck take into the consideration the case where you draw/have in your hand one of the critical components to continue the combo? For example, other than the Backup Arcanist Line that avoids Graveyard Hate, you use Fatestitcher in every combo. What happens if you naturally draw Fatestitcher or have it in your starting hand? Many other Vannifar decks I've seen run Brainstorm, or even Scroll Rack to help mitigate that problem. What would be your solution?
Going off on that, I'm a big fan of contingency plans, and I know that there is always a chance to have a combo piece somewhere where you don't want it to be (i.e. GY, exile, hand, stolen, etc.). Due to this I feel that there should be someway to include Pestermite/Deceiver Exarch/Bounding Krasis/Breaching Hippocamp/Disciple of the Ring/Tidewater Minion/Chakram Retriever->(the last one you didn't mention) in order to combo off. (I understand that after Disciple of the Ring/Tidewater Minion/Chakram Retriever you pod into Woodland Bellower/Great Oak Guardian, and although you can pod into Protean Hulk without a way to sac it after, at least you can get a Palinchron instead.)
You might want to look at this combo: https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/803528-prime-speaker-vannifar-the-birthing-pod-commander#c5
2 weeks ago
Thinking of a Vannifar line has been tricky. If we use her as the commander alone, assuming we sac a 0 drop, we could use her to pod into Quirion Ranger => Scryb Ranger => Deceiver Exarch OR Pestermite => Breaching Hippocamp => Chakram Retriever OR Disciple of the Ring and cast or exile something respectively (wish Body Double worked here though and retained 5CMC) => Great Oak Guardian OR Woodland Bellower grabbing Bounding Krasis => Protean Hulk BUT our line stops there if we can't sac Hulk. If we do find a way to sac Hulk, we can grab Ezuri, Claw of Progress and Sage of Hours with a bunch of 0 drop creatures and win from there, but we can't untap Vannifar to sac Hulk on her own. I'm stumped. I mean we do have stuff like High Market to sac and even Minamo, School at Water's Edge to untap, but that doesn't feel as streamline. Thoughts Deckwatch crew?
Currently helping with brewing this list here.
2 weeks ago
Ooh, ok, so I have been working on a Protean Hulk line, not sure what this does once we get there, but:
1 drop into Scryb Ranger
2 drop into Pestermite
3 drop into Breaching Hippocamp
5 drop into Great Oak Guardian
6 drop into Protean Hulk
dunno how to sacrifice it, also Faces of the Past is an easy win if you are a little tribal.
For winning with a Protean Hulk loop, it will probably involve Body Double again, maybe Gigantoplasm with it for more copies of the combo, Loaming Shaman with this kind of line can go infinite done well:
If you have Protean Hulk and Gigantoplasm on the field, the plasm copying the hulk, you can pay 0, sacrificing it to get a Deceiver Exarch and Loaming Shaman, hopefulling shuffling some of the line in your graveyard back into your deck, possibly sacrificing Deceiver Exarch to P-S-Vannifar, fetching back Gigantoplasm or something, starting it over, unsure of the final completed loop yet, but this may be a start.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Inkmoth_: So, I thought about adding Chord of Calling. Especially, since it is a instant speed tutor. But! It fell short, I don't have anything crazy to sneak in that wouldn't just jack all my mana for that turn in the deck. Now, granted I could add Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite to have a sudo board wipe, although I am still on the edge of bringing her in.
The other two options you bring up are fine choices. First, Great Oak Guardian is neat, but I dont have a need to just untap all my guys and the pump ability I would think we both would rather play the Norn for sure. Unless we have a need for a lot of mana or abusing it some how.
The second card Citanul Hierophants is tutorable, but since it is a creature we tend to see board wipes a lot sadly. Which makes it in a vulnerable spot for us. Thats why we use the enchantment versions.
Thanks for the card suggestions! It does put some insight into what I can possibly add to this deck. Hopefully, you end up figuring out where you want to take your deck :).
1 month ago
I've been dying for some direction as to where to take her, so thank you for posting. Here's an upvote! :D