Bane of Progress
Creature — Elemental
When Bane of Progress enters the battlefield, destroy all artifacts and enchantments. Put a +1/+1 counter on Bane of Progress for each permanent destroyed this way.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Bane of Progress Discussion
2 weeks ago
I really like the idea of more colors getting access to interact with the stack and I really think White is a good color to add some additional design space. Obviously it cannot get on par with blue so it needs some additional conditions or costs associated to get this effect.
I think this is a very good example to fit that space. Nice work.
Just a side note, for the sake of reducing word count could it be written as "... costs less for each spell cast and each ability activated by your opponents this turn." ?
I get the point in being specific about only caring about your opponents' actions but I think it would be consciously misinterpretation of the above line to think it isn't specifically for your opponents' actions.
Why is white a good fit? (wall of text) Show
First of all it seems like counter magic is a vital tool to interact with combo strategies especially when considering the Commander format, and it is the reason we've seen so many "free"-to-cast counter spells especially for Commander and why they drive sales so much. However that is only accessible to Blue, so the rest of the color pie is borderline useless in attempting to interact with most combos. I mean a Silence could work to interact with some combos, but that is such a narrowly applicable card in the rest of the game that it remains a tech card with a heavy drawback. And it might just eat one of the aforementioned "free"-to-cast counter spells and there's not much redundancy available either.
There's a reason why most competitive cEDH decks are including Blue. Coincidentally a lot include Black and Green as well as the three most powerful colors in Magic - at least for single-ton formats.
White used to have some affinity for artifacts but that seems to have been handed over to blue/red. Right now White is mostly concerned about Equipments within the artifact realm and the synergies are not that widespread nor that powerful.
White used to be the best or on par to deal with artifacts and enchantments with Disenchant and Purify and similar effects but green has mostly taken over in acquiring design space for this mechanic - Bane of Progress Broken Bond You Find a Cursed Idol. The best improvement on the mechanic that white has is Austere Command due to flexibility and Heliod's Intervention to snipe multiple without harming yourself. And that's one of the bigger differences. White leans more on Enchantments and Artifacts than Green does, so Green doesn't have much drawback in including Bane of Progress. Whereas White leans on Artifacts for mana ramp and Equipments and they lean on Enchantments for strong synergies.
White once had their card advantage through ensuring their board survives, either through protection, prevention, regeneration, then shroud to a lesser degree, then indestructible - but only on creatures. However Black has gained exile mechanics, red has "burn to a crisp" mechanics and blue Cyclonic Rift or Curse of the Swine. So indestructible as a safety measure is getting worse and worse. Not to mention they get outdone by Green - again. Only exception is the ever increasing price on Teferi's Protection but that has its drawbacks too - namely you remove yourself from the game and can't interact further - unless you somehow can cast spells without mana from permanents.
Cards like Rebuff the Wicked or Lapse of Certainty are interesting to expand upon within the design space for white and will grant it back some strengths and uniqueness it used to have. However to be able to properly interact with the stack it cannot just be conditioned behind being the one targeted - that would equate it to hexproof/protection and also make it useless against board wipe or the infamous Cyclonic Rift one-sided board sweep.
Possibly the design space could include some "punisher" mechanics loaned from red but transformed instead of inflicting pain on the opponent, you gain a benefit - for instance:
Choose target spell or ability an opponent controls. That opponent may have Inspection counter the chosen spell or ability. If they don't, choose one:
- Create three 1/1 white Human Soldier tokens.
- Create two Treasures then gain 4 life.
- Search your library for up to two basic land cards and put them into your hand, then shuffle.
The flavor being to pass the spell you have to pay the toll (chosen by the Inspector for their benefit) or be rejected.
Taxing is the most recent mechanic that white has expanded upon and embraced but that is usually done on permanents as static or triggered abilities. This means WotC have to water down these cards' immediate impact and make the mechanic less enticing in the short run, which is often when it matters the most. Drawing Thalia, Guardian of Thraben on turn 5+ is often not that impactful, whereas on turn 2 you can cripple some decks. It would be refreshing if WotC would expand on the mechanic for ETBs or instant/sorceries with a here-and-now benefit rather than dragging it out.
Additionally the taxing mechanic could utilize other taxes than just paying mana to do stuff. Inflexibly taxing mana has a good chance to affix unfriendly eyes on you whereas gaining a taxing benefit - say Smothering Tithe is less likely to breed anger toward you but may instill fear.
Anyway, I think it would be good for White to gain a little more design space and I think more colors being able to interact with the stack would be a good thing - even if that means Blue has to share some of their mechanics to a degree with another color.
3 weeks ago
MTGesus90X true, but the best removal in multiplayer is mass removal. I've played plenty games where my board got wiped over and over again, even when I wasn't the threat. You'll want your Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, that you play for a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle combo you're not close to assembling yet, back even if it dies to a Bane of Progress that was played to answer a Sigil of the Empty Throne that wasn't yours.
1 month ago
1 month ago
So a friend of mine whom I play commander with frequently loves the card Helix Pinnacle. Now normally it's shroud isn't too much of a problem, so long as I use something like Bane of Progress, but when I'm playing my enchantment deck I don't want to be forced to wipe out all of my own enchantments just to take out his singular card...
So my question is does anyone have any card suggestions to somehow get around Helix Pinnacle's shroud and get rid of the thing?
1 month ago
To me the social contract isnt needed. The only thing I could think of that I wouldnt be okay with is a stax deck with no win con. In my opinion the social contract disrupts the colour pie and its self balancing. IE. Banning land destruction because you play green, but you run Bane of Progress blowing up everyone elses ramp.
1 month ago
Bane of Progress is a solid card. I run it in my animar deck, and it has always done well. Terastodon is great if you're on a budget. At 8 cmc, it's not usually hitting the battlefield early game, but hits 3 targets, so it balances itself.
1 month ago
3 months ago
Hey, for a first deck this is well done on a budget. Nice Foothills Expedition :)
Ask yourself do you need Elemental tribal with Omnath? My advice will hopefully give you ideas of how you can make upgrades with Omnath by getting away from the tribal theme. Omnath by himself is an Elemental engine, creating Elementals with landfall. Focus more on ramp and landfall for Omnath as your main source of Elementals, not other Elemental creatures.
The cards you cast before Omnath should help you to cast Omnath which will do a lot more for gameplay then casting some Elementals before him. Still play some Elementals such as Ashaya, Soul of the Wild and Bane of Progress , but play these because they're good cards not because they're Elementals. Elementals such as Creeping Trailblazer and Lavakin Brawler aren't good enough even with Elemental synergy.
Cards in the early game you want to cast are ramp.
- Sol Ring
- Lotus Cobra
- Orcish Lumberjack
- Tireless Provisioner : Modern Horizons 2 card, landfall to create treasures.
- Farseek : can search for a Mountain dual land such as Cinder Glade or Highland Forest .
- Llanowar Scout
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Harrow : trigger landfall twice at instant speed.
- Roiling Regrowth : trigger landfall twice at instant speed.
- Springbloom Druid : trigger landfall twice.
- Stone-Seeder Hierophant
Lotus Cobra , Tireless Provisioner and Stone-Seeder Hierophant are important budget cards because of landfall which makes them combo with Perilous Forays + Omnath to repeatedly pay for the sac activation of Forays.
Ramunap Excavator , Mina and Denn, Wildborn and Moraug, Fury of Akoum are good budget support cards who are not Elementals; they're support comes from interactions with lands. Excavator lets you play lands from your graveyard which is excellent with Fetch lands for landfall: Foothills, Passage, Wilds, Expanse, Myriad Landscape , Naya Panorama , Jund Panorama . Excavator makes cards that make you sac a land when you cast them better since you can then play the land you saced from your graveyard. Excavator is also good with Valakut Exploration which is landfall for card advantage or damage to all opponents.
Wildborn lets you play another land on your turn and it also has an ability to bounce a land you control to give Omnath trample. Moraug can be a win condition with landfall giving you extra combat steps to attack with Omnath and 5/5 Elementals. You get an extra combat step after a main phase for each landfall trigger.
If you're interested in these suggestions then I offer more advice. Good luck with your deck.