Creature — Vampire Rogue
FlyingWhen Balustrade Spy enters the battlefield, target player reveals cards from the top of his or her library until he or she reveals a land card, then puts those cards into his or her graveyard.
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Balustrade Spy Discussion
4 weeks ago
Hi! Welcome to the game! I love milling and the way it plays so much that I built a Commander deck around it. It's General Mills Cereal if you want to take a look for any ideas. I have a few suggestions for your deck as well.
I completely understand building decks out of the cards that you have, so I'll try not to suggest cards that are very expensive. Feel free to follow or ignore any of my suggestions.
My experience has been that decks run most smoothly if you have at least 20 lands, so I'd recommend using two of your remaining spots for that. Nephalia Drownyard can mill for you if you have extra mana (although it uses four lands to do it), or adding two more islands would be good to start and see how it goes.
I like Balustrade Spy and it can be good, but it has the potential to only mill one card if the first one your opponent turns up is a land. I might use only two of it instead of counting on it since it's let me down before. Another card that I might put in for those two (or just to fill out the deck) is Siren of the Silent Song. If your opponent doesn't have flying creatures to block, you can take advantage of its Inspired ability and make them discard and mill when you get back to your untap step.
Other good (inexpensive) mill cards include Psychic Strike to counter and mill at the same time, Jace's Erasure to combo with Accumulated Knowledge, and Pilfered Plans to mill and draw. There's also Hedron Crab, which is considered one of the best, but it's also a little pricey if you want more than one.
I saw that you set this deck to "Standard," which is harmless. Some people get uppity about decks being properly categorized, though, especially for the competitive formats. When you edit it, just select the drop-down menu for Format and click "Casual."
Best of luck milling!
1 month ago
I'm trying to use cards I already own. Karmic Guide can get a Creature out of grave and back to battlefield like Bane of Bala Ged and do it again when brought back. My original idea was to try using Havoc Festival and flicker it in at my end step to apply to opponents upkeep, or use Dictate of the Twin Gods only on my turn, but that would apply to opponents sources too. I have ways of exiling Graves with Agent of Erebos, Angel of Finality or if opponents discard (Karmic Guide+Tyrant of Discord) I could use Necromantic Summons, Fated Return, Shadowfeed and Beckon Apparition.
Ghastly Conscription can/could be used mid-game after opponents have searched for lands and play/recur Balustrade Spy hoping to yield more creatures. (If my teammates commander is in grave (Ezuri, Claw of Progress) I could Necromantic Summons or Fated Return on it and get the counters from the 2 power, if things resolve)
Most original creatures were human to trigger Xathrid Necromancer when sac'd and Cavalry Pegasus to provide flying when attacking but got removed trying to get to 99 w/ lands, there's 10 left and all recurrable w/ ETB effects. When it comes to protecting Alesha I can Gift of Immortality, Holy Mantle and I can Totem-Guide Hartebeest to Tudor (yeah it's a 6 drop, but it's a 2 power and I own it so...)
The first cards to get the cut were any with costly mana abilitys as I need at least 2 untapped mana before each combat, the only mana abilitys left are: Shadows of the Past, Flameshadow Conjuring, Purify the Grave, Twinflame, Mizzix's Mastery. I'm not really planning on using awaken on Sheer Drop & Ruinous Path. Creatures with mana abilitys are Karmic Guide (not an issue), Reckless Reveler, Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip, Flamewake Phoenix (not an issue).
This is where I'm at with it and still have to remove some...
Creatures:Karmic Guide, Xathrid Necromancer, Mardu Woe-Reaper, Thraben Doomsayer, Tyrant of Discord, Keening Apparition, Marsh Flitter, Reckless Reveler, Butcher of the Horde, Generator Servant, Nantuko Husk, Iroas's Champion, Silent Sentinel (still makes me think of Havoc Festival and Dictate of the Twin Gods destroying it with Keening Apparition or others.) Cavalry Pegasus, Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Flamewake Phoenix, Resolute Blademaster, Evangel of Heliod, Agent of Erebos, Totem-Guide Hartebeest, Fiend Hunter, Aegis Angel, Angel of Finality, Azorius Justiciar, War Priest of Thune, Viashino Firstblade, Balustrade Spy, Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip, Flickerwisp, Bane of Bala Ged
1 month ago
Also, meant to mention this in my above post (double post ftl):
Treefolk Harbinger. If he can only search the spells 'library', then you can't tutor a Forest. If he can tutor out of either library, then why would Demonic Tutor be restricted to the spells library? If Demonic Tutor can, then why can't Green Sun's Zenith or Natural Order grab Dryad Arbor? If those can look at either library, then why not Druidic Satchel or Selvala? And, lastly, if it can, then what about Countryside Crusher?
You'd have to be able to explain to a beginner why, or why not, each one of these would, or would not, be able to do something. Also, anything that needs to have Balustrade Spy, Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker and Undercity Informer on a ban list will only have more issues as more cards are released (too large of a ban list becomes unwieldy if innocuous cards have to constantly be kept in check).
Also, is it just me, or does Warp World become a headache under these rules, as well? Which library do you shuffle your permanents into, and, if you have to shuffle them back into their respective libraries, from which one do you reveal?
Also, the results of Unexpected Results would actually be expected, here. lol. Anyway, I figure it's better to ask questions of, "Why, and if not, why not?" to garner some specifics than it would be to just say, "No, this doesn't work." I'm still a proponent for the Abundance token over the library split, though.
1 month ago
Wouldn't it be better to go black for Balustrade Spy?
Otherwise I love it
1 month ago
xexs123 you mull until you hit either your forest or Land Grant, then ramp into Balustrade Spy to mill your entire library. Then you need to cast Songs of the Damned for around 20, flashback Morgue Theft to get a Simian Spirit Guide, flasback the other for Anarchist, cast it using the simian to get back Haunting Misery and cast it for lethal. The cards in the sideboard are for another, more complicated combo that loops gary over and over again.
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