Im not a lore expert either... i certainly think Capenna is Elspeth's home plane and know it was previously attacked by the phyrexians (not sure how this happened without realmbreaker or karn but it did)... and i know Capenna has halo/angel significance but didnt know elspeth was an angel or in any other way connected to being an angel prior to her latest death.

I think my advice depends on what "playing Magic for a few years" means alongside with what formats are supported by your LGS... Surprisingly Pioneer is a format a have to drive nearly an hour one way just to play where Modern is at all the shops within 15 minutes from my house... it doesn't make sense to buy into paper if you dont have a venue to play is what im getting at.

I'm assuming that if you have been playing since War of the spark/Guilds of Ravnica then you should have organically gotten a decent start on a manabase via shock lands... currently the price of a Steam Vents vs Scalding Tarn are not too far off but once upon a time this fool spent over $70 for each scalding tarn and Im assuming those prices will go back up over time unless WOTC continues to reprint them... Basically what im saying here is lands are the best investment you can make regardless of if you choose Pioneer or Modern... I have wasted so much money on underpowered decks because I was too cheap to buy a proper mana base.... but as of now the new barrier of entry might just be Modern Horizons staples in general.

So depending on what kind of product you have been buying over the last "few years"... if you were getting Modern Horizons 1 & 2 and have got yourself fetches and stocks and triomes...then you should have it made...but if you have been buying structure decks and standard products Pioneer may be the better choice for paper magic... but also depends what your LGS supports.

So I just got done watching Aether Hub's latest content regarding what happened to Elspeth in March of the Machines.... personally I love it... I also wanna think that this was all possible due to Serra the Benevolent's old pre-mending planswalker magic. I think some could interpret this as being cheap/silly story writing but it kinda just works for me overall as a whole.

Although its not over yet... I think this story arch has been overall satisfying and I'm pretty pleased with it.

Does everyone think that this newfound power/transformation is permanent or just temporary for stopping the phyrexians?

Courtesy links:

Elspeth Transforms

Archangel Eslpeth CRASHES Norn's Victory

definitely see where your coming from nbarry223... the red damage sweepers were just fresh on my mind because those are the card currently filling that slot in my deck... but as playtesting goes on the more and more I want to write a letter to WOTC expressing how 4+ toughness creatures should all be banned. (lol im just kidding)

Oh really wallisface? I was actually approaching this from the opposite way of thinking... like it seems like a great card for game one because for 3 mana there are more possible targets/threats for this to "answer" than instead having 3-4 mana for a Sweltering Suns/Supreme Verdict... and then being able to bring in more appropriate tools from the sideboard game two...Or is this just a poor way to think about cards for deckbuilding?

I am wondering what peoples opinion is on Temporary Lockdown for Modern.

I have a Jeskai homebrew that is looking for a one sided sweeper effect and this seems like its could be a nice fit.

But regardless of the synergy with my own deck list I was wondering if this effect would be better than something like Anger of the Gods/Sweltering Suns due to it being able to hit noncreatures like Wrenn and Six/Welding Jar ect ect. as well as BIG RHINO TOKENS

I have a very similar concept for my oathbreaker deck something that I'm running in mine that I think is need is Earthquake and Crackle with Power

Oatherbreaker and commander are synonymous with existing cards printed but a signature spell are not to my knowledge... with that Im pretty sure whatever cost alterations/reductions you see with those cards would refer to your oathbreaker and not the chosen signature spell.

legendofa You can only cast your signature spell when your commander/oathbreaker is in play... for every time you cast your signature sell after the 1st time its been cast an additional tax of must be paid in addition to any other casting cost just like your commander/oathbreaker.

Im not sure if distancing or further differentiating from EDH/Commander is a good move for Oathbreaker... I think the main draw to the format is how similar it is to EDH/Commander and not having a rule 0 exception/explanation for planswalkers...the diffenece of certain fast mana like Sol Ring and such and lower life totals life are pretty big differences on there own let alone the at the ready PW and Signature spell shenanigans.

I like planswalkers personally... %90 of the decks that I brew that are not just netdecked or a tribal deck are usually built around a planswalker and there abilities... I just find that kind of deck building to more fun and can lead to some interesting things. Serra the Benevolent is my personal favorite example of this that I've done.

But I will say I can definitely see why there is room to complain about them...because of there existence it's very much so a case of if your deck strategy can use one then why wouldn't you?

• they are something else to fuel delerium/Tarmogoyf.

• war of the spark made some into global enchantment effects by having static abilities in addition to an activated loyalty ability.

• they are a resource lightning rod by either demanding removal or act as a pseudo lifegain by drawing attackers.

• in addition to a sorcery speed effect/ability which usually gives value by itself... something like Jace, the Mind Sculptor also just wins you the game if ignored.

well first things first im annoyed that i forgot about the existence of Silverbluff Bridge when i was building this deck lol so thanks for that reminder.

I think you and I are on our own island when it comes to Coveted Jewel... i also liked that card and though it looked fun/neat but the internet/forums said it was the first thing to cut because its bad to encourage people attacking you... idk i think its neat and am open to putting it back in.... i also like Scrabbling Claws too; I only cut it because it is a unique effect compared to the other 99 cards.... and Mirrorworks/Mimic Vat were also just tough things i cut for this prototype list... i woulnt be surprised or offended if they found there way back in here.

A mana rock that has seen competitive play and i still use would be Springleaf Drum... however it is very fringe if not obsoleted in artifact aggro decks.

I still personally still cling onto the old way to play artifact aggro using Springleaf Drum and Ensoul Artifact but both cards have fallen out of favor for the strategy for being competitive... but thats just something I know/accept when I play my deck at FNM.... still gets wins but is nothing like it used to be.

I agree with Argy

I personally have tried to convert modern established decks over into pioneer like zoo and such... its really easy to make a deck "Pioneer Legal" but completely different making it "Pioneer viable"... there are so many things in pioneer that are really good that you wouldn't even give a second look at in Modern... Red Deck Wins is a great example of this... it hold the same principles and deck namesake in both formats but look nothing alike.

@seshiro_of_the_orochi I have your deck a look over and I sure did see a few cards in your list that I really want! I particularly liked your suggestions of Scarecrone and Dragonspark Reactor they seemed neat!

@scotchtapedsleeves Yeah the mana curve and mana base are two fundamentals thats im totally lost on (because I've only played a handful of EDH)... something feels wrong about a high number of basic lands; but I need a lot of mana for may gameplan so cycling lands seemed like a neat thought for a built in land drop if needed or just use mana rocks to filter through the deck....My other EDH deck is Gavi, Nest Warden so maybe its just habit or I just brainwashed myself into thinking that cycle lands are good lol.... as far as curve goes... yup not a clue really... granted I have a lot of ramp/rocks so I figured Spine of Ish Sah/Duplicant would be removal/interaction that would aid with artifact count for saheeli but maybe more efficient spells like Pongify would be better?...Myr Battlesphere is kinda the same thought and its more about paying for 5 additional artifacts than a beatstick.... and as far as the other saheeli planswalkers go its just %100 me fangirling for her lol... the -2 abilities to make copies seems neat but its mostly just me cramming them in here lol

Thank you both for the advice/input... im gonna work with the list and pick up a few singles like Izzet Signet/Scarecrone... If either of you have any additional thoughts/suggestions please say so its very appreciated so thanks!

Idk... maybe it's like earth bending in Avatar the last air bender... some specialized more in the molten liquid rock while others were more into metal.... but both are good with rocks/earth/dirt?

what do you think of this new EDH deck I made?

Saheeli's Exquisite Invention

Commander / EDH Icbrgr

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I Recently have been playing more EDH lately and have been enjoying it... I got ahold of the 2018 Saheeli, the Gifted precon deck and have been modifying it.... i decided to go the route of focusing on getting a critical mass of artifacts/rocks/tokens and using her 2nd +1 ability for getting big mana to dump into a big spell like Crackle with Power or similar to win the game.

Any advice would be appreciated pretty new to the format in general.

Saheeli's Exquisite Invention

Commander / EDH Icbrgr

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I Recently have been playing more EDH lately and have been enjoying it... I got ahold of the 2018 Saheeli, the Gifted precon deck and have been modifying it.... i decided to go the route of focusing on getting a critical mass of artifacts/rocks/tokens and using her 2nd +1 ability for getting big mana to dump into a big spell like Crackle with Power or similar to win the game.

Any advice would be appriciated... pretty new to the format in general.

Saheeli's Exquisite Invention

Commander / EDH Icbrgr

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I have always liked decks like this i think they are neat. Ancestral Vision seems like a great on them tool to consider!

oooh very cool! maybe somthing like Necrogen Mists could be a great way to put the table in topdeck mode and get value from your commander?

Awesome political signature spell lol +1