Generous Patron

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Generous Patron

Creature — Elf Advisor

When Generous Patron enters the battlefield, support 2. (Put a +1/+1 counter on each of up to two other target creatures.)

Whenever you put one or more counters on a creature you don't control, draw a card.

DreadKhan on Goose Mother Voltron

4 months ago

Mark of Sakiko or Bear Umbra might do some work, mostly to enable you to play a lot more stuff? Belt of Giant Strength seems synergistic, it stacks with your +1 counters. Crystal Shard is a pretty good way to get your Commander back in hand, but it can also be used to punish any player who dares use all their mana up (some players are really bad at tracking stuff like this, depending on the playgroup). Rogue's Passage is an interesting way to guarantee the survival of your Goose. If you want more mass removal I have had some luck with Mass Manipulation, it's hard to cast but the effect is pretty strong if you steal more than 1 thing.

I'm not sure if your Goose gets big enough or not, but Tempting Licid is a decent Lure effect, and you can technically attach it to an opponent's creature that attacks (and remove it after blockers are declared) to either wipe out blockers (letting you/others get in) or get a creature killed, you can also use it to put a Lure on something you don't care about so The Goose can get in unblocked (you can save the Licid).

When it comes to ramp and fixing, I find 2 colour decks are extremely forgiving, and having one of those colours be Green makes it even easier to build. One of the annoyances of Enemy Pair decks (like Simic) is that their aren't as many dual lands to choose from, but their are still a few budget range dual lands that come with basic land types, these really pop with stuff like Nature's Lore, which can find a non-Basic Forest, enabling you to get your colours quickly and consistently, but IMHO it's really hard to not hit your colours in a Simic deck. It's really annoying that the only 'budget' typed dual I can think of is Breeding Pool, but that's a long way from budget, and you're only in 2 colours.

If you like +1 counters and drawing cards you might enjoy Generous Patron, if you're desperate you can give your own stuff the counters, but if you want cards you can do so (and still have a body). Another card that might be generally useful is Skullwinder, you can use this to generate political leverage, possibly getting to choose what the opponent will actually get back. Cultural Exchange is an obscure card that can very much take over a game if you time it right, ideally you use it after people have already wiped and hopefully don't have another at the ready. Mass Diminish might be better than Frogify, note that it lasts until your next turn and affects all of a player's creature, yet still comes with Flashback to boot. This is very good with something like Tempting Licid. Transmogrifying Wand might not look very good, but being able to remove the 3 most annoying creatures for a grand total of only 6 mana is pretty sweet, it's also a great deterrent piece once it's out and still has counters, people can't play key creatures until it's dealt with or out of counters. Return of the Wildspeaker is a good way to refill your hand, it's among the best of it's kind, but Momentous Fall is better if you're being wiped or something.

Fish_Plissken on Gluntch counters interaction

8 months ago

If I am running Kros, Defense Contractor or Generous Patron, do the counters bestowed by Gluntch, the Bestower count for their triggered abilities?

flapjackwars on GW Emiel EDH: Blink Toolbox PRIMER

9 months ago

Generous Patron seems hard to pass up in this deck, 2 cards for 3 mana straightaway is an amazing rate, also draws 8 with Preston. Voice of Many could be worth an add too but it's a bit more conditional of course and your deck might prefer Radagast the Brown anyway

RCD2023 on Lathiel, Who Blots Out the Sun

10 months ago

rakdosrunner Great additions! :)

Generous Patron on Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons its awesome too!

Lathiel it's a fun good deck, but it's not broked in anyway, so you can keep or mind in peace hahaha .. he usually is based on creatures (that give us valor 1 turn after, and can easyly be removed, counter or controled) and 1-3 speells each turn.

One board wipe and we get back to back to square one xD (even with cards like The Ozolith or Resourceful Defense in play).

I would say that Teferi's Protection it's the only card that it's closest of "Broked" in our deck... one time I was really ahead in the game and one friend casted Farewell and I had Teferi's in hand ... we lough and agree with 'Im was running ahead and they gaved me cocain' hahaha

RCD2023 on Lathiel, Who Blots Out the Sun

10 months ago

Niceeee :)

Spike Feeder and Generous Patron are the 2 cards i my deck that when I play people look and say "..well...whateveeeer.." and then after 2 turns they try to remove it xD

One budget card that I believe that you will love it is Wurm's Tooth , 1 life for every green speel in table for 2 mana

I just found out the best synergy of Lathiel to remove artifacts/enchantments : Hopeful Initiate (Pros: we can tutor and is cheap, Cons: it's not budget haha)

I'm ginving a try for Beacon of Immortality , Dragonlord Dromoka , The Shire and Heliod's Intervention 2 of them I got here, so thank you!

and yhea.. i don't like Triumph of the Hordes too hahaha

RCD2023 on Lathiel, Who Blots Out the Sun

10 months ago

hello rakdosrunner!!

i really enjoyed the enforce that u had describing the deck and the mechanics.

i'm playing Lathiel for a long long time and i'm updating him a lot since then.

all the cards that u described i alredy test it, some of then still in the deck but mostly i had cut from the deck in order to be fastier and be more "Go for the troat" (my playgroup dont play easy haha).

firstly i wanna say the awesome cards that i wouldn't dare to touch that u metion before: Aetherflux Reservoir Authority of the Consuls Mangara, the Diplomat True Conviction Worldly Tutor Teferi's Protection Ozolith, the Shattered Spire Branching Evolution Light of Promise Well of Lost Dreams Scholar of New Horizons Tribute to the World Tree Esper Sentinel

it took me a long time to get this deck better and i still getting some frustations but if you like to consider, here some tips of cards to be implemented in order to have a better experience with it: ( mostly of this cards i proxed it because i dont wanna spend a lot of money and because i dont have a headache changing they every 2 months when wizards bring some new things )

starting with the nasty combos :

God Mode ( infinity mana + infinity draw :D ) : Argothian Elder or Priest of Titania + Quirion Ranger+ Ashaya, Soul of the Wild + Beast Whisperer with Eternal Witness in the deck u can even cast your grave again

Lathiel Gatling Gun: Walking Ballista + Heliod, Sun-Crowned or Cleric Class

“Life moves pretty fast..” — Ferris Bueller’s Spike Feeder + Light of Promise

ramp : Marwyn, the Nurturer : counters will get him a good ramp Mirari's Wake : awesome ramp Land Tax: can save you in early game Burgeoning : get ahead Priest of Titania : every elf in the battlefield Exploration : get ahead again Arbor Elf : very good with Selesnya Sanctuary or some mana that u need Mana Reflection: awesome ramp Circle of Dreams Druid : gaeas crandle in creature Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx : why not ? proxy <3 Crop Rotation: get those good lands in battlefield Carpet of Flowers: very good against 2 or more people Smothering Tithe : just perfect

draw : Generous Patron: our green budget risky study, perfect in lathiel Guardian Project : good in general The Great Henge : we have big creatures so probably will cost onle 2 green mana Toski, Bearer of Secrets : unstapable, can't be countered and draw Archivist of Oghma: meh... sometimes good sometimes not, but its 2 mana

tutors: Finale of Devastation : go for the troat Enlightened Tutor: very good tutor in our deck Eladamri's Call : get those pieces that u need Fauna Shaman : get those pieces that u need Defense of the Heart: this is funny, but moste of times works haha Yisan, the Wanderer Bard : good in general Natural Order : to the battlefield! Primal Command : say goodbye to ur grave zombie players

utility: Akroma's Will: defense or end game Alhammarret's Archive : it's 5 mana, but double life gain and double draw Eternal Witness : u have awesome cretures that people wanna destroy so... also good piece of combo God Mode Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines : Hushbringer + Hardened Scales, but better Serra Ascendant: sooooo goood in this deck ... first piece to be tutored by yisan, the wanderer bard Angel of Destiny: go for the troat Ashaya, Soul of the Wild: combo, but also a big creature Overwhelming Stampede : go for the troat Walking Ballista: good in general andd combo Cleric Class: combo but also grave Spike Feeder : Snowball effect, one of the best synergy of lathiel, 'each turn' change counters for life/

Good interactions : Aura Shards , Force of Vigor 2 ducks 1 shot ,Farewell exile :) , Kenrith's Transformation (interaction with draw)

Eddy_Khil on Death's Kiss

1 year ago

Have you ever considered Generous Patron as a draw engine.

Max_Hammer on Aren't You Getting a Little Briared?

1 year ago

Hey, DreadKhan, thanks for the suggestions!

Evasion is always useful, and it comes in untapped for when I don't need the second ability, so Shizo, Death's Storehouse is almost definitely going in.

This deck, as most voltrons are, is pretty light on draw, so Generous Patron is definitely worth a shot. I don't expect Evolutionary Escalation to come out every time he's on the field, but drawing 2 for 3 mana isn't bad either way.

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