Volrath, the Shapestealer
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Freeform Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Volrath, the Shapestealer

Legendary Creature — Shapeshifter

At the beginning of combat on your turn, put a -1/-1 counter on up to one target creature.

: Until your next turn, Volrath, the Shapestealer becomes a copy of target creature with a counter on it, except its base power and toughness is 7/5 and it has this ability.

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EchoSpice on Permeating Massification

5 months ago

Neat deck! I know you probably dont wanna remake the whole thing, but if you ran Volrath, the Shapestealerfoil as your commander, all the copies of permeating mass could be 7/5s... could be fun :)

Rhadamanthus on Can the once per turn …

1 year ago

No, that doesn't work, for different reasons depending on the specific situation.

If Volrath, the Shapestealerfoil is the one enchanted by Well Rested, then Well Rested's ability-granting effect is applied on top of the results of Volrath's copy effect. Volrath didn't gain a new instance of the Well Rested ability, so it won't trigger again if it already has this turn.

If the creature Volrath is copying is enchanted by Well Rested, then the ability from Well Rested won't be copied at all. Copy effects only copy an object's "copiable characteristics". For cards, the copiable characteristics are whatever's printed on the card. For tokens, the copiable characteristics are whatever characteristics the token was created with. There are a few other considerations in the detailed rules needed to make certain mechanics work properly, but none of those apply to this example. The ability granted by Well Rested isn't a copiable characteristic of the creature it's enchanting, so Volrath won't get it.

With regards to the ruling you found: When a copy effect is applied to an object, the copiable characteristics overwrite whatever characteristics the object already has, minus any specific exceptions given (like in Volrath's case, it specifically keeps P/T and the copy ability). This means if an object becomes a copy of something, any abilities it gains from the copying process are different abilities from what it had before, even if it was previously a copy of that same thing. However, in this example, Volrath's copy effect isn't causing it to gain the Well Rested ability.

Chaospyke on Volrath Shapstealer and Summon:Primal Odin

1 year ago

if I have Volrath, the Shapestealerfoil as a copy of Summon: Primal Odin get its second lore counter and gets Primal Odin's second chapter ability, will it keep that ability indefinitely or will the ability go away once Volrath is no longer a copy of Primal Odin

Chaospyke on Volrath Shapestealer and Enduring Glimmers

1 year ago

Volrath, the Shapestealerfoil dies as a copy of Enduring Vitality. It returns to the battlefield as an enchantment. Will Volrath's activated ability allow it to become a creature again?

Flarhoon13 on Saskia keeps hitting

1 year ago

Well, finally won a multiplayer game Friday, thus completing my quest to win with each of my commander decks, which began May 3, 2024. Had an early Serra Ascendant. Taunt from the Rampart was the key card. Cast it while Auren had a 16/16 Mossborn Hydra and swung at him for about 9. He untapped and made his land drop before sending his goaded hydra for 32 at Will, who retaliated, dropping Auren to 6. Lauren admitted, he would have swung at me if the hydra wasn't goaded. I was able to get the kill shot on Auren--playing Koma, World-Eater. Mosswort Bridge found a Timeless Witness. I cast it to get back the Taunt from the Rampart. That let me take out Will, playing his new Volrath, the Shapestealerfoil binder deck, and I had a couple tricks left to kill Jared, playing Naya humans, including a Githzerai Monk.

wallisface on Faerie Artisans + Mirror of …

2 years ago

Cards that reference their own name in rules text always only ever really mean “this card”, referring to itself.

So, for instance, the rules text on Faerie Artisans really reads: ”Whenever a nontoken creature enters the battlefield under an opponent's control, create a token that's a copy of that creature except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. Then exile all other tokens created with this card.”.

What this means from your questions:

  • you can’t flicker/bounce tokens and have them come back. This is always the case for all tokens, and has nothing to do with these interactions.

  • if you flicker/bounce Faerie Artisans, any existing tokens its created will be immune to being removed from any future effects by the bounced card.

  • if Mirror of the Forebears copies Faerie Artisans to make tokens, any previous tokens it made will be removed (regardless of what turn they were made).

  • same goes for Volrath, the Shapestealer, if it creates a token as Faerie Artisans, any previous tokens it’s made will be removed, regardless of what turn they were made, or what creature/effect Volrath was copying to make them

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