Fierce Empath

Creature — Elf

When Fierce Empath enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a creature card with converted mana cost 6 or more, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.

Discussion (47)

Phosphonothioic on Advice on tribal deck card …

3 weeks ago

Mainly, I'm wondering which would be seen as a better fit for my given deck. Quicksilver Amulet or Cryptic Gateway

Also, I'm looking for opinions on where to steer this deck if anywhere. There are so many viable Beasts that it's been hard for me to make card choices. Then you have cards like Fierce Empath which could be useful. So, advice is more than welcome. Thanks! (If someone could guide me in how to format this into a list, that'd also be appreciated. Sorry for the current format.)

4 Arbor Elf 3 Arboreal Grazer 3 Kalonian Tusker 3 Krosan Warchief 3 Leatherback Baloth 2 Ravenous Baloth 3 Elder Gargaroth 3 Garruk's Packleader 2 Thragtusk 1 Rampaging Baloths

4 Wild Growth 3 Beast Within 2 Garruk Wildspeaker

2 Contested Cliffs 4 Fire-Lit Thicket 4 Rootbound Crag 12 Forest

Hardhitta7 on Temur Emerge

3 weeks ago

I would cut Hydroid Krasis and Courser of Kruphix and get some Brazen Borrower s and possibly more Bonecrusher Giant in there. You could also cut Chandra and Teferi.

Fierce Empath and Foul Emissary are nice creatures to emerge with.

I would also run more Sanctum of Ugin so you can chain Deep Fiends together and keep tapping stuff.

TheVectornaut on Insane ramp idea - please help

1 month ago

Sorry for the late response, I have some family over for mother's day.

First, I'd like to say that I'm by no means an expert, and even if I was, I'd tell you to disregard my advice if it ever advises the removal of pet cards, shifts the deck towards a style you don't prefer, or otherwise contradicts your goals in any way. I can only ever speak from my own experiences, and yours can and should be different. Generally speaking, creatures that cost a lot of mana and are easy to remove tend to be weaker than those that cost less and/or have some built in protection or other added value. The ability to dodge removal like Vraska's Contempt and Teferi, Hero of Dominaria is what let Carnage Tyrant warp an entire format while Ghalta, Primal Hunger really did not. The fact that you're considering 3 cards that grant hexproof or indestructible implies that removal is a serious issue in your meta, and after looking at the blue and orzhov decks, I would agree. This does mean that Xenagos, God of Revels is better than Ghalta since it packs its own protection. My suggestion to cut him comes from two different factors. One is that he's just shy of the Fierce Empath CMC requirement and the other is that he doesn't grant haste to all creatures simultaneously. I don't think he's bad though, and I particularly like him with annihilator Eldrazi. Still, if I resolve a Surge, I'd really like to win the game that turn, and an 18/18 haste alone can be shut down for a single mana. Going wide makes it harder for your opponents to answer your threats both because board wipes tend to be sorcery speed and because they typically get played in the main less than single-target removal anyway. This is why you see cards like Pathbreaker Ibex and Craterhoof Behemoth getting so expensive while their single-target counterparts fall behind. All that aside, I do like Soul of New Phyrexia and Archetype of Endurance for decks like this. If you're worried about not giving your opponents enough answers, just go with the Soul since it doesn't stop targeted exile.

If you're looking to play casually online, you could try something like Untap.in (free in-browser), Cockatrice (free download), or Tabletop Simulator (payed download with many other games). If you have a way to set up a webcam to record your board, you could also try to arrange a paper game on Discord or the like. Or, if you don't mind dropping money on digital cards, MTGO is an option.

twechsler on Insane ramp idea - please help

1 month ago

I seemed to have made the same mistake with the misread. Good thing I didn't drop any money on it before catching it. I was looking at other legendary creatures that cost 6 or more so it would fit both tutors and I landed on Akroma, Angel of Fury and Ruric Thar, the Unbowed . Think these could go really well as I don't have much for flying. Also thinking about Klothys, God of Destiny to deal damage to small creatures at the beginning of games and Planar Portal to be used like Fierce Empath but also able to grab Prowling Serpopard to make sure things resolve or Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma Heroes' Bane Seedborn Muse as they cant be found by the current tutors.

RA_HORAKHTE on MEREN: THE NATURE'S CYCLE OF LIFE AND DEATH

1 month ago

Hi DreadKhan!

Thanks for your suggestions, I truly find them very interesting!

About Yavimaya Granger , maybe I discarded him due to it's 3CMC and can't control when they die. But it's true that essentialy is similar to Dawntreader Elk or Diligent Farmhand . I think still prefer the Elk or the Farmhand for being more mana cheap to put onto the field (and so be recurred by Meren) and be able to control when they are sacrified. Many times Meren or another thing to take advantage of death triggers isn't in the field when I played an echo card.

Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire is very nice (and cool), specially in aggro decks, just I find that Fierce Empath works better in my personal build. Fierce empath allow me to access to my finisher creatures and at ETB for only 3 mana (Specially Protean Hulk , wich grants me insta win with combo, or just a removal card like Bane of Progress or Massacre wurm). Varragoth can grant me any card... but at a total of 5 cmc (3 play +2 boast), waiting 1 turn to attack (as in this deck I don't have many ways of giving haste) and waiting more to get that card from the top of the library... It's objectively more slower in this situation. In fact, I use Sidisi, Undead Vizier as a creature "direct tutor" (I saw you play her too, so I'm sure you have used her with success!). I know that argument would lead about including some kind of powerful tutor like demonic, etc... but they are a bit taboo in my playgroup (mostly due to economic reasons haha). Although Diabolic Intent could be accepted...

Don't get me wrong, Varragoth sure is awesome any deck, it's just more an aggro piece than a sacrifice/graveyard recursion one.

But I'll add to my ideas your Silverglade Pathfinder !! I'm also thinking on Evolutionary Leap , man I have that card since many years and I never used in Meren, but I love it.

Many thanks!

DreadKhan on MEREN: THE NATURE'S CYCLE OF LIFE AND DEATH

1 month ago

Have you considered Yavimaya Granger as a ramp dork? Free self-sac is a nice perk in Meren. Then again, maybe don't be like me and cut a land for it? haha. Not sure if Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire would play better than Fierce Empath . Varragoth has to live I suppose, but assuming he isn't killed (likely costing someone a creature), you can re-use him, and the first use works even if he dies. Both are 3 mana as well, but Varragoth requires mana to Boast. I'm not sure if Varragoth's tutor ability is good enough to qualify as 'expensive', but I don't think he's what most people have in mind when they want to ban 'good tutors', but maybe in Meren I could see someone thinking it is too much.

Cool deck!

twechsler on Insane ramp idea - please help

1 month ago

libraryjoy I was wondering how you would use Toralf, God of Fury  ^Flip effectively in this deck because its ability only affects non-combat damage. It seems like it may be better to get a cheap eldrazi like Ulamog's Crusher or Artisan of Kozilek . If I do that then Fierce Empath will have more creatures to pull as well. Im just not sure how to use toralf really so if you can explain that would be great. I was also looking at Ruric Thar, the Unbowed . Seems like a good option against a flying counter deck but also fits both time of need and fierce empath.

TheVectornaut on Insane ramp idea - please help

1 month ago

Yeah, if you are running Fierce Empath , you do want most of your bombs to be at or above that 6 CMC threshold. For instance, that's why I run Greenwarden of Murasa over the usually far superior Eternal Witness and Cyclops of Eternal Fury over say Urabrask the Hidden or Fires of Yavimaya . Running both the Empath and Time of Need will require careful balancing so you don't end up in situations where you need to find one thing and the tutor you draw isn't the one that can search for it. Hypothetically, you can get around that by just running creatures that satisfy both conditions. It is true though that such creatures will often be quite pricey like the Eldrazi titans and Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger . If you do go the Eldrazi route, Artisan of Kozilek and It That Betrays would be some other guys to keep an eye out for, with one being obviously more budget than the other. As for the appropriate numbers of land untappers and land enchantments, you'll just have to goldfish and hopefully also get some real games in to test what ratio works for you. If there is a lot of enchantment destruction being played early, for example, I think running 12 Overgrowth effects would be more worthwhile. Or if creature removal is more of an issue, working in Hope Tender or Sculptor of Winter could be an option.