Skyshroud Ranger

Creature — Elf

Tap: You may put a land card from your hand into play. Play this ability only any time you could play a sorcery.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (47)

PrismMTG on The Island Awakened [[Primer]]

1 year ago

@KongMing the reason I play Skyshroud Ranger over Walking Atlas is because of the mana cost. I know the difference between the tap abilities, Walking Atlas is can be activated in reaction to a removal spell, but a t1 Skyshroud Ranger before everyone else has even started the game is just much too good for me to seriously consider the swap.

KongMing on The Island Awakened [[Primer]]

1 year ago

How about Walking Atlas over Skyshroud Ranger?

Helnas on Omnath locus of mana (opinions needed)

1 year ago

i see no synergy in your deck. you got some ramp artifact, ramp sorceries, ramp creatures, ramp enchantments, but nothing really synergizes. if you put all ramp into 1 of those, your deck gets alot better.

id say go for creatures, so you can end with a nice overrun effect. So grab all the 1 mana elfs that produce mana, your missing Boreal Druid, Joraga Treespeaker. Then get Priest of Titania, taps for all elfs.

For removal, run creatures aswell, id get Foundation Breaker, Druid of Purification, Bane of Progress, Haywire Mite, Reclamation Sage, Voracious Hydra, Acidic Slime, Duplicant, Kogla, the Titan Ape, Meteor Golem, Terastodon, Woodfall Primus, Ulvenwald Tracker

For draw, run creatures aswell (your starting to see a synergie?) Beast Whisperer, Voice of Many, Toski, Bearer of Secrets, Augur of Autumn

for ramp you have the mana dorks, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Fertilid, Wood Elves Elvish Pioneer, Primeval Herald, Skyshroud Ranger, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds

For bombs, id run creatures that already have trample, Defiler of Vigor, Neverwinter Hydra, Ochre Jelly, Kalonian Hydra, Aberrant, Craterhoof Behemoth and a tutor: Fierce Empath

some other cards i would consider Champion of Lambholt (makes your creatures unblockable, Saryth, the Viper's Fang hexproof untapped, deathtouch when attacking (insanely powerfull with big trample creature).

non creatures i would run: Lifecrafter's Bestiary, Skullclamp, Return of the Wildspeaker, Inspiring Call, Harmonize, Rishkar's Expertise maybe a few things like Fade from History, Beast Within, Nature's Claim, Collector Ouphe is also really strong since you will be running creatures

Sure, the mana doubling can be fun, but is it really needed? your commander is gonna be 1-2 punching people, doubling your mana is gonna waste a turn, and you cant do alot with the mana other then empty your hand, and then you get boardwiped and your sent back to your childhood. Id cut them, and just get more consistency out of your deck

PrismMTG on The Island Awakened [[Primer]]

1 year ago

Alright @TheoryCrafter, I'm gonna do my best to break this down.

Artifact/Enchantment hate is definitely something I'm lacking, the main problem I have is that I don't know what to cut. Of the two, I think I'm more likely to play Broken Bond due to the land synergies and that I don't often need anything more than spot removal.

Walking Atlas was something I considered, but Skyshroud Ranger is just strictly better imo and as I kept refining the deck, I started cutting out some of those types of ramp effects for more draw effects.

I am not doubting that Angel of Jubilation is a very strong card, but I'm failing to see how it effects my main game plan. Yes, it messes with effects like Greater Good, but it doesn't do anything to stop the landfall/land recursion elements of my deck, which are the main strategy.

Of the 3 lands you suggested, I'm only truly considering Fertile Thicket. All 3 enter tapped, but only Fertile Thicket has an effect that benefits me enough to offset that cost. While yes, it does give me the etb trigger, it takes one less basic out of my pool and I already run less than 50% basics, removing many more would start to severely hamper my fetches. All 3 of them are also much harder to bring back from the GY than a basic forest, which either slows down the land recursion engine, or makes it more complicated to put into motion. Field of the Dead is a super powerful card, but I'm worried that in order to consistently activate it, it is doing too much damage to all the fetch lands I run.

Thanks for the suggestions, I hope the logic behind my replies makes sense

DreadKhan on Erinis, Landfall Spawn

1 year ago

Any reason you're not running The Gitrog Monster in here, it seems staggeringly synergistic unless I'm missing something? Another one to consider is Baba Lysaga, Night Witch, it's a tap ability, and you've usually got spare creature tokens and lands, add in some treasures or clues and you are going to draw a ton of cards. There is also Braids, Arisen Nightmare, hitting each opponent for a land can hurt some decks, especially if Braids can do it a few times, when you eventually get 3 cards for a land, it'll feel pretty good I think, but netting 2 opponent's worst land and getting a card back is also worth a land.

Maybe Thunderfoot Baloth or Blossoming Bogbeast? Maybe not enough 'bang for buck', but Siege Behemoth can let your Commander get in as if it's not blocked, do you often end up over 20 power?

Stuff like Sakura-Tribe Scout or Skyshroud Ranger can be useful in a landfall deck, especially if you've got some card draw going on. There are also a few more, Scaled Herbalist and Llanowar Scout that are pretty budget. Since you might not mind pitching a land to dig one out, Silverglade Pathfinder can ramp you if you pitch a card, slow but grindy value. Oracle of Mul Daya is pretty cheap at the moment, a decent card if you run enough lands, Augur of Autumn and your Commander will only need 1 other power to let you play creatures off the top of your deck, that seems solid.

It's pretty high end, but I feel like you'd struggle to add more passive value generation to this deck than with Field of the Dead, that card is just so much synergy. Another to consider might be Ashaya, Soul of the Wild, then all your creatures are also landfall (other than tokens).

Great deck, I hope some of these ideas work!

WhiteEagle_12 on Land and Insect Deck

2 years ago

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, but a good replacement for Elvish Mystic that you might like is Skyshroud Ranger. If you do that, you could replace some of the high CMC land fetch cards with something like Caravan Vigil or Reclaim the Wastes. I hope this helps!

DreadKhan on Tatyova

2 years ago

Harrow is worth a look, it'll net two landfall at instant speed. In a pinch, you could ramp while finding two islands to cast a counter, not many ramp spells let you 'catch' someone like that. There is even Dreamscape Artist, which I like. Parcelbeast is not bad value, but it's better with a higher land count. Abundance is a fun card in a Tatyova deck like this, if you've got access to extra lands per turn, you just keep playing them out. You could pull stuff like Brainstorm IMHO, I don't think you want cards like this, I'd run a land over it even. I'd also run a land like Simic Growth Chamber over a basic, and if you have a really high number of basics, you might even look at the Karoo lands, Jungle Basin and Coral Atoll. Guildless Commons is another land you can play that will net you an extra land fall, which is good even if it's a colourless land. You could run lands or land ramp over mana dorks, other than 1 mana ones, there are 2 mana ramp spells you could run over mana dorks, and these don't generally die to wipes. If you ran more lands, I'd suggest Sakura-Tribe Scout and Skyshroud Ranger, but at 36 I'm not sure it'll come up.

I think Molimo is a fair bit worse than Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar. There aren't many better beaters in a land ramp deck.

If you want, I could link you to my Tatyova deck, you could take a look at the manabase, it's designed to get Field of the Dead out and online quickly, while also letting me utilize Mystic Sanctuary as a potential combo piece with an extra turns spell. Field and Sanctuary are both really good cards, you do need a way to get Sanctuary to ETB, I use land bounce. The rest of the deck is a huge pile of combo, but Field is a great card if you can turn it on reliably.

DreadKhan on First Commander Deck

2 years ago

The deck looks pretty good, I suspect you've got a pretty good grasp of the basics of this format already, so you're off to a good start!

How competitive are you hoping this deck will be? cEDH is pretty hard to play if you aren't familiar with both how competitive play in general works or with how competitive multiplayer works. I ask because you run a few cards that are very competitive but tend to play pretty poorly in Casual settings. The standouts I noticed were Spell Pierce and Brainstorm. Brainstorm and cards like it are too small in Commander, digging 3 deep in a 60 card 4 of deck is wildly different from the same effect in a 99 card singleton deck. It's good with your fetch lands, but you really want Sensei's Divining Top I suspect and can cut Brainstorm. Spell Pierce is just too small, it's only useful when mana is extremely tight, and it's really narrow to boot. An Offer You Can't Refuse is probably a much better effect, but I'd even run Dispel over it, maybe Delay if you were hoping for a less cEDH card. In addition to Brainstorm, you might also cut the similar sorcery speed spells that fiddle with your deck's top cards, these are really small in Commander and you can find better 1 mana effects I think. The joy of having something up on turn 1 is IMHO more than offset by how bad it feels to draw them later, when they just tie up mana and can be annoying with your Commander if you need to cast your Brainstorm to find a more impactful spell to cast, you've already used up your trigger for the turn. Brainstorm at least is an instant and you can play it on an opponent's turn, but sorcery ones seem solidly worse.

In Simic I try not to run very much (any even) artifact ramp, you have access to very strong ramp spells like Three Visits, as well as stuff like Harrow and Kodama's Reach. There are also bigger ones like Skyshroud Claim. Land ramp is safer than artifact ramp, and in Green it's more cost effective to ramp with non-artifacts other than actual mana positive ramp rocks, which are generally run at very high levels of play like cEDH. At your higher land count, creatures that put lands into play will probably feel pretty good when drawn early, Sakura-Tribe Scout and Skyshroud Ranger are 1 mana and can ramp you repeatedly if you have lots of lands in hand, so they're also good with Cultivate or Kodama's Reach. There is also Azusa, Lost but Seeking to put extra lands down, but she comes down late enough that I think Scout is the better card in practice.

I feel like you could cut Courser of Kruphix for a better payoff for landfall, something like Scute Swarm or Rampaging Baloths seem like much more useful cards to have out.