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When Protean Hulk is put into a graveyard from play, search your library for any number of creature cards with total converted mana cost 6 or less and put them into play. Then shuffle your library.
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Protean Hulk Discussion
1 day ago
1 day ago
gabrielkrallzy: actually i forgot to read a small part of his description, and im guessing you did the same. in his example line of play, the Walking Ballista is put into play via Protean Hulk . this means it would have no counters to remove, (its still alive due to Mikaeus) thus it would need a sacrifice outlet.
2 days ago
CyborgAeon: Sorry for the delayed response, I appreciate your comment and wanted to spend a bit of time on the response (this was the first time this weekend I've had a chance to sit down at my compuuter). As for the individual cards.
I've thought about Natural Order in the past. My biggest issue with it is that as you mentioned, it only fetches green creatures. While there aare a lot of good green creatures in the deck, there aren't that many that I would want to spend Order on. Yisan would probably be the primary target and then it feels too slow. I have a variant of the deck which packs Protean Hulk , which would give much more bang for buck. I will add it to the maybeboard there, however I think that here it seems a bit too weak.
Viridian Zealot is cool but more expensive than Pridemage :P
The topic of hatebears is an interesting one. I have seen a few Saffi lists who employ stax/heatbear effects however have opted to focus more on racing to combo. I know the deck will never be faster than lists with access to blue/black however my preference is to spend card slots on ramp and card draw rather than only having limited draw/tutors due to trying to fit a stax package in as well (not to mention having to waste tutors on finding stax pieces rather than digging for win cons). Along those lines, I do entirely agree that I should make the combo as fast as possible. I do really like your suggestion about Elvish Spirit Guide . I'll add it to the maybeaboard for now, I'm not sure if I want to cut Mikokoro for it however it feels like a good addition to the deck. I was also thinking of adding Voyaging Satyr as well, as it does the same thing as Priest of Titania in the Yisan line.
I do like the idea of Leyline of Sanctity as a meta include. I don't think it's good enough for mainboard however I will add it to the maybeboard (I think it will be worth adding some modular swaps for the deck) and that one seems like a funny idea, especially with Rector.
As mentioned, I appreciate the input - there are some solid ideas and I think ESG will end up in the list very soon.
3 days ago
i would remove Tajuru Preserver too. its not flexible enough.
3 days ago
No problem Abzkaban!
Here are my thoughts, yes as same with me the reason I don't run the infamous Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion combo anymore is really because the CMC cost. Without it they are value pieces outside of the two card combo, Trike by itself although needs to be in a recursion combo in order for it to go infinite. Whereas Walking Ballista can go infinite with infinite mana. So it really just depends on how often you go for certain combos. If you lean more toward infinite mana, Ballista would be easier on the curve as well as it can stand in as a decent removal for other people's creatures. If more on the reanimation based route, than Trike would be better.
Oh and a small correction on Ballista as well, Mike and Ballista just needs any sac outlet for it to win the game, as you can remove the counter and than sacrifice Ballista to re-enter the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter due to Mike's Undying ability. So Blood Artist is unnecessary for it to kill the table. Any sac outlet will do as long as you can kill off the Ballista!
Moving to your next point Tooth and Nail , yeah can be considered taking out, more so is because of the inclusion of Protean Hulk . You can think about using Natural Order as well to grab it as well and use a sac engine to kill it off. Another substitute can also be Summoner's Pact although it's limited by only green creatures, but can be helpful on the turn you have infinite mana to combo off with.
Hope that gives you more insight!
3 days ago
4 days ago
Thank you for the suggestions. I love the idea of the Isochron Scepter . I feel that a good trade off for that card would be Tajuru Preserver . It's a card that is great utility but doesn't produce enough value in this deck. I will update that.
I love the idea of Tooth and Nail in this deck, but I feel it may be a little too high of a CMC. I know that sounds crazy since this is filled with Mana ramp, but in most games and playtests, I never get to a point where that kind of Mana is available.
Now the Palinchron + Phantasmal Image combo interests me BIG TIME. My only issue is that it would require me to either cut redundancy or protection. But the value produced seems fitting albeit a little "win more" flavored. But hey, that's a combo for ya'.
4 days ago
lol. Welcome back!
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