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When Protean Hulk is put into a graveyard from play, search your library for any number of creature cards with total converted mana cost 6 or less and put them into play. Then shuffle your library.
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Protean Hulk Discussion
11 hours ago
Mind If I ask why you don't have a well-tuned landbase (Bayou, all of the fetchlands, Ancient Tomb, Gemstone Caverns), or the best win-conditions (Hermit Druid/Necrotic Ooze), yet have posted this list under the "competitive" tag?
I would really appreciate either dropping the "competitive" tag (to prevent from being a misleading interpretation of competitive EDH) or adding the following:
The fully optimized landbase with Ancient Tomb, Gemstone Caverns, Bayou, all of the useful fetchlands (not just Verdant Catacombs), City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Llanowar Wastes, Gemstone Mine, Tarnished Citadel, etc.
Better Win-Conditions, like Hermit Druid into Bloodghast, Dregscape Zombie into Dread Return a Necrotic Ooze, use Wall of Roots and Blighted Bat to give it haste then use Devoted Druid and Channeler Initiate to make infinite mana and kill with Walking Ballista. A secondary win condition would be using Survival of the Fittest to fetch and discard a Protean Hulk, fetching Apprentice Necromancer, use it to recur and sacrifice the hulk to fetch a Hermit Druid, Deathrite Shaman and Mogis's Marauder. Give haste to the shaman and druid, tap the shaman for to activate the druid and win.
1 day ago
The main reason for Deep Analysis over Flash of Insight is Laboratory Maniac. Is some of my combo for Nooze is exiled or otherwise inaccessible due to gameplay, I can Dread Return the Laboratory Maniac and flashback Deep Analysis.
I actually had Noxious Revival and Diabolic Intent in the list to start with, along with cards like Windfall, some of the signets, etc. But a lot of them were dropped for more removal. Timetwister/Memory's Journey lines are the best for repeatedly recycling my library, to use Beast Within + Reality Shift to exile my opponents libraries. Winds of Rebuke isn't needed for this.
Entomb, Necromancy, Reanimate, Life // Death and the like were a package I couldn't run with my Food Chain package, Flash/Protean Hulk package, Laboratory Maniac package, Counterspell Package, Card Draw Package, Tutor Package, Removal Package, and Ramp Package. I just didn't have the space.
Ad Nauseam is a card that is too expensive opening hand, and doesn't instantly win me the game like Hermit Druid can, so I would rarely tutor it. It is a great card for storm, but not exactly for many other lists.
Survival of the Fittest/Apprentice Necromancer can be a great boon for many decks that need to reanimate a Protean Hulk, however I am a Food Chain deck at first, and a Hermit Druid list second. Flash/Protean Hulk is probably beneath Laboratory Maniac in terms of how much I want to focus on it. I would most definently recommend it to a Flash/Protean Hulk list wanting a single-card win-con (as long as you have a creature card in hand). I may eventually run it, but for right now I do in fact have a reason for not doing it.
2 days ago
Hey, if you want to make your deck more competitive, Witch-Maw colors are great for combo.
Hermit Druid is a famous combo, in which if you have no basic lands in your deck, you mill the whole thing into your graveyard. With a turn one Forest + Gemstone Caverns or Lotus Petal or something, by turn 2 you can mill your deck.
Narcomoeba will return from the graveyard to the battlefield, and if you play a land Bloodghast will return too! Fatestitcher can return for a single mana if you need it. As long as you have three creatures, you may flashback Dread Return a Necrotic Ooze back to your library, your whole library is in your graveyard, but remember, Phantasmagorian can discard any cards you may have accidentally drawn.
You use Wall of Roots's ability, and get a . Put that mana into Blighted Bat's ability, giving Necrotic Ooze haste. Tap Necrotic Ooze to Devoted Druid's ability, getting , then untap with Devoted Druid's second ability. Tap it again, but this time to Channeler Initiate's ability, and get another mana. Use both Devoted Druid's second ability and Channeler Initiate's ability over and over again to make mana, and put it all into Walking Ballista's ability to put infinite +1/+1 counters on it. Then use Walking Ballista's other ability to remove all of those counters, killing each of your opponents.
Easy win, one card (Hermit Druid), turn 2 win.
Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, Eladamri's Call, Green Sun's Zenith, Summoner's Pact, Worldly Tutor, Eldritch Evolution, Sylvan Tutor, Grim Tutor, Beseech the Queen, and cards of that nature can fetch it up, leading to ~20 "one card combos".
Flash + Protean Hulk also allows you to find Grand Abolisher, Cephalid Illusionist, and Nomads en-Kor, allowing you to win turn 1, if you have Lotus Petal or Gemstone Caverns or Mana Crypt or Chrome Mox or Mox Diamond, a land, and Flash + Protean Hulk, isn't that a fast win!
Other than that, self-mill combo-decks that put their whole library into their graveyard all are able to protect against the likes of Faerie Macabre and stuff of that nature by running Memory's Journey and Deep Analysis and Phantasmagorian, so if they attempt to exile some of your combo, you can shuffle it back into your library, draw it, and discard it all to save yourself! Krosan Reclamation, Think Twice, and stuff of that nature are occasionally run too!
3 days ago
How much money would you be willing to spend on this deck? I could work with any budget, whether just adding a few cards to draw, or switching up the manabase, or add some wincondtions!
This will return Narcomoeba, and allow you to bring back a Fatestitcher or Bloodghast if needed. If you have 3 creatures now, cast Dread Return from the graveyard, and bring back Laboratory Maniac, then flashback Deep Analysis to win the game.
These 3 combos win the game on the spot, and all of them only take up 11 cards total.
I will let you know, Laboratory Maniac + Demonic Consultation is what I would consider one of the cheapest and most powerful combos for EDH (use Demonic Consultation naming a card outside of you deck, and exile it all, but do this on your upkeep so you win the game on your draw step). Tainted Pact can also work if you only run one of each card. (you can run 2 basics of each type if you run a snow-covered varient like Snow-Covered Plains alongside a normal one.)
3 days ago
Hey! I see you are a new player, and I think it would be nice to know how competitive you want this deck to be.
I could show you how for $~50 upgrade this deck a lot, by lowering your curve and helping you add more card draw.
Brainstorm, Flash, Protean Hulk, Hermit Druid, Dread Return, Narcomoeba, Bloodghast, Fatestitcher, Mogis's Marauder, Deep Analysis, Preordain, Laboratory Maniac and cards of that nature can build a very cheap competitive build, after all of the reprints.
The question is if you want to play a list like that, or if you want a less competitive deck to play with your meta.
1 week ago
Additionally, you can go with the Canadian Highlander (or Australian) version of "restricted" list. Canadian highlander is 100 card singleton format where every card legal in Vintage is completely legal in the format.
How they deal with power level is that every powerful card has points attached to it. For example, something powerful like Black Lotus is 7, while something cool but not so powerful like True-Name Nemesis is 1 point. In your deck you can play cards that are no more than 10 points total.
You can certainly make this Modern-only, remove the singleton nature and call it a format that will be easy to determine whether a deck is legal.
1 week ago
1 week ago
I had a Prophet of Kruphix in every EDH deck that I had that used the colors blue and green, so I was naturally very disappointed that that card was banned in that format.
Therefore, I wonder; will PoK ever be unbanned, eventually? The EDH committee even admitted that it was not that problematic of a card in that format, and they did eventually unban both Kokusho and Protean Hulk, so I shall keep hope for the prophet, as well.
What does everyone else say about this? Will prophet of Kruphix ever be unbanned in EDH?