|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Ravnica Allegiance: Guild Kits (GK2)||Rare|
|Masters 25 (A25)||None|
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Creature — Beast
When Protean Hulk is put into the graveyard from the battlefield, search your library for any number of creature cards with total converted mana cost 6 or less and put them onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
Protean Hulk Discussion
1 day ago
So I still own a Spore Frog and had used it for the deck but I personally felt like it hasn't been worth for the deck. Like I never really want to tutor for a spore frog when I can tutor for stuff like Mindslicer or Sakura-Tribe Elder or It That Betrays and so on.
I do own a Protean Hulk but I dont know if its necessary for the deck, I've already got many ways to tutor the mike+trisk combo or just lock/beat people out with one of my big creatures or a contamination. I might consider it however I do feel like that card is pretty degenerate even though I run a shit ton of tutors in this deck lol.
Is Walking Ballista better then Triskelion? They both seem pretty similar in function. I guess I can bring ballista from the yard easier then triskelion when using meren ability. I will consider it and if i get a copy I might as well switch out.
Thank you for your advice if ya have any more tips/suggestions for cards or cuts please let me know. This is my high power edh deck compared to my other 4 which are meant for any table. So I do appreciate all your tips and advice especially the protean hulk one. I have always been on the fence with that card cause it was banned for a reason and I dont know if I want to put it in my deck.
I am considering putting a Bob and a Yawgmoth's will in the deck. Any thoughts about that?
3 days ago
Just needed some guidance with Ghave because I have no experience with him whatsoever. Currently picking up a extra copy of Birds of Paradise and Protean Hulk so should be adding that soon. Here is the deck list.Ghave EDH
5 days ago
The Gitrog Monster and Varolz, the Scar-Striped are the tried and true. Both act as always accessible combo pieces. Varolz runs as a Protean Hulk deck and gitrog is looking for Dakmor Salvage and a free discard outlet to dredge through the entire deck.
As far as the above suggestion for muldrotha, I have actually seen that he is much stronger in the 99 of a cedh deck than he can be as commander due to tutor and Reanimate effects being able to get him out and going much faster than from the command zone. I would actually suggest instead going for Tasigur, the Golden Fang or Thrasios, Triton Hero + tymna or vial smasher if you want to play muldrotha.
6 days ago
With all the free sac outlets you have, it may be a good idea to swap out Triskelion for Walking Ballista and maybe try to squeeze Protean Hulk in somewhere as it can pull Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista out from your deck and win on the spot with a sac outlet. Spore Frog has also never let me down be it building counters on Meren, keeping me alive, or just good old fashioned politics and it was just reprinted. It may be worth a look
1 week ago
Package Cracker: Preordain
Package in no particular order:
- Laboratory Maniac (Core Piece)
- Gitaxian Probe (Immediate Deckout-Win)
- Pact of Negation (Spot Removal)
This leaves us w/ 2 slots remaining. Gush is out of the picture though; not enough Island to save my butt. & don't get me started on Lion's Eye Diamond ; I have both Yawgmoth's Will & Magus of the Will , & I'm not running either.
But if there are any dream combos Boros could ever have, I'd love to mention them; but not today. One of them IS a Doomsday Package; though for the sake of cEDH, I've yet to find a Hulk Combo; Protean Hulk isn't in colors...
...Any other Hulk combos out there that didn't even need to run ?
But at least I've 4/6 pieces. But the Card Draw Strict Minimum in a good pile is 6; ...I got 2. Not going to add the two Wills for multipliers, but I still need some kind of Mana Ramp (Optional.), & something cheap that can run 4 draw; which, is just an impossibility. But you know the rulings now; so what last 2 to add... BTW 5/6 Draw Rating won't work in anyway, there is an actual Primer for this BTW.
1 week ago
I'm working on a Golgari reanimator/aristocrats deck, and have 3 generals in mind as the commander.
First is Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord :
Bonus cool points since I have the duel deck foil, he's a pretty fun commander. He can hit for a ton both from sacing something like Lord of Extinction or just swinging himself. Only problems are his cost is restrictive, he does nothing from just ETBing so no IMMEDIATE value, I've built him about 3 times before but always for some reason, usually a large string of loses, deconstruct his deck, and he's restrictive in his casting cost.
Next we have Varolz, the Scar-Striped :
His scavenge ability might not be the best for reanimator, but his cheap cost to cast and free sac outlet in the command zone seems like a force to be reckoned with. Problem is, like I said his scavenge ability isn't the strongest for a reanimator deck, and just a sac-outlet in the command zone won't win any awards for going for a non-cEDH 75% deck that's not running Protean Hulk .
Finally, Izoni, Thousand-Eyed
Newest member of the golgari guild, she does a great thing of making token fodder on ETB, so no matter what I should get value out of her. There's also the fact that she's another sac outlet like Varolz, albeit not a free one, that draws us cards which is always useful. Problem is again the restrictive casting cost on top of her costing 6 just to start. I know in green it shouldn't be too much of a problem, I think in the deck I have around 13 accelerants so far, so I'm running a few less lands at around 33. If I do Izoni I'll certainly add more lands to more reliably cast her.
I'm not really looking at any other Golgari commanders, these are ones I own, but I guess a case could be made for Savra, Queen of the Golgari :
A Dictate of Erebos effect on a commander seems good, not the mention some lifegain for those grindy matchups. Problem is she's sorta fragile and can't do anything right away unless you already have sac outlets on the board. I'm a little less in favor of her, especially since I don't currently own one, but I could be swayed.
I'm not really interested in Meren, since 3 others in my playgroup play her, and things like Slimefoot, the Stowaway are a bit too low in terms of power in my opinion. Budget wise, I'm not looking to spend too much, but I have a few expensive cards such as Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Demonic Tutor , and Phyrexian Altar .
EDIT: Going for a 75% deck so I don't think I'll run a deck like Protean Varolz, as good as it is.
1 week ago
Hey all, thanks for the comments on the page. Sorry for taking a little while to get to you. I'll address each of your comments in bullet points:
abierto - thanks for the compliment! No. Not going to switch to Intruder Alarm . Something about it just rubs me the wrong way, and besides I know that Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is roaming about in my meta - that is a card I don't want to unwittingly enable.
_Delta_ - I won't call Worldly Tutor a replacement, only a temporary stand in. I think the rules committee are wrong, plain and simple. Besides, with their history they have a weird habit of just unbanning ridiculous cards. It's likely they'll just unban Paradox Engine on a whim...just like Painter's Servant or Protean Hulk .
Fellin22 - Sensei's Divining Top ? It's okay - there are plenty of decks that don't really care about top deck manipulation. Additionally, it's not super disruptive to play. Iona is a definitely a problem though - she's Leovold, Emissary of Trest level annoying. Now that is a proper ban.
Nephs - I have to disagree with you on that one. Paradox Engine was hardly an "auto-include" or an "auto win" because you have to build your deck and boardstate around Engine just enough to make it truly work on a consistent basis. With multiple mana-rocks, sure you can flood a board state and maybe dump your hand, but what are you going to use to tutor/draw more cards? I guess what i'm trying to say is that in order for Paradox Engine to win you the game, you need to assemble something of a Rube Goldberg Machine to get it working. I will agree to the point that it can help accelerate a player's boardstate - but without the right pieces in play...it only serves as a big target that can only help you so much. Again - I disagree with your logic.
1 week ago
If you want faster, what you really should do is take a look at your mana cost of each card. Your average cmc is 3.69 and if you are looking for speed, you want to be somewhere around 2.5 or lower. Best way to do that is dump the least impactful of your highest cost creatures and put in mana dorks like Elvish Mystic and Fyndhorn Elves . You could also use some more interaction like Abrupt Decay , Nature's Claim , Toxic Deluge . I see that you already have an infinite combo, and also that you already have Protean Hulk how would you feel about using protean hulk to get a full infinite combo?
Hulk dies 1. Phyrexian Delver (returning Protean Hulk ) + Viscera Seer 2. Viscera Seer (sacrifice Protean Hulk ) 3. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista Opt. (in case of removal) 4. Viscera Seer (Phrexian Delver) 5. Viscera Seer (Protean Hulk) 6. Triskelion or Sylvan Safekeeper , Carrion Feeder
Protean Hulk occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.04%