Sunken Ruins
Set Price Alerts

Combos Browse all Suggest

Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Freeform Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Sunken Ruins

Land

: Add .

, : Add , , or .

indieinside on Umbris Fear Manifest

3 weeks ago

I would start with your mana base. I am going to assume we can’t afford cards like Underground Sea and Polluted Delta. But, maybe in the $10 or less range for duals that don’t enter tapped. I’m not a fan of tapped lands. Looks like you got it. Just thought I would mention a few others.

Darkwater Catacombs

Morphic Pool

Sunken Ruins

trippy_mcfly on Cumly Cube

3 months ago

Introducing Cumly Cube 1.3! Two years ago, Cumly Cube was updated to Cumly Cube 1.2, creating a balanced cube and wonderful play experience for all involved. Despite these changes, there remained some minor flaws in the card pool. I am now pleased to announce that, after extensive research and design, Cumly Cube has reached a final form. No card is too powerful. No card is too weak. Synergy is abundant. Both the draft and play experiences are dynamic, exciting, and new. There will be no more major updates to Cumly Cube 1.

120 cards have been removed, and 120 cards have been added. Here are the changes, provided with brief justifications:

REMOVED:

ARTIFACT

  1. Everflowing Chalice: mana rocks should cost 3 or have a drawback
  2. Glass of the Guildpact: too weak
  3. Heraldic Banner: encouraged mono-colored decks
  4. Illuminated Folio: too weak
  5. Jayemdae Tome: too weak
  6. Loreseeker's Stone: too weak
  7. Mind Stone: mana rocks should cost 3 or have a drawback
  8. Null Rod: too much of a hate card
  9. Pithing Needle: too powerful with Urza's Saga
  10. Pyromancer's Goggles: too narrow
  11. Retrofitter Foundry: too powerful with Urza's Saga

CREATURE

  1. Bomat Courier: too powerful against slow starts
  2. Deathpact Angel: creates a Cleric token, not a supported creature type
  3. Dimir Cutpurse: too powerful
  4. Elves of Deep Shadow: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
  5. Golos, Tireless Pilgrim: too powerful
  6. Hostage Taker: too powerful
  7. Kalamax, the Stormsire: too powerful
  8. Loyal Retainers: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
  9. Monastery Mentor: too powerful
  10. Moonveil Dragon: pumping the team makes for anticlimactic endings
  11. Murktide Regent: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
  12. Ornithopter of Paradise: too obvious of a choice as a cumly
  13. Phantom Tiger: too weak
  14. Risen Reef: too powerful
  15. Shadrix Silverquill: creates Inkling tokens, not a supported creature type
  16. Tatyova, Benthic Druid: too powerful
  17. Thraben Inspector: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
  18. Toxrill, the Corrosive: creates Slug tokens, not a supported creature type

ENCHANTMENT

  1. Alpha Authority: hexproof makes for less interesting games
  2. Favorable Winds: too weak
  3. Offspring's Revenge: too narrow
  4. Pernicious Deed: too powerful of a board wipe
  5. Rally the Ranks: too weak
  6. Song of Freyalise: too typical a card for green

LAND (types are grouped together in this list)

  1. Tolarian Academy: too powerful
  2. Arid Mesa: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  3. Bloodstained Mire: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  4. Flooded Strand: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  5. Marsh Flats: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  6. Misty Rainforest: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  7. Polluted Delta: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  8. Scalding Tarn: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  9. Verdant Catacombs: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  10. Windswept Heath: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  11. Wooded Foothills: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  12. Badlands: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  13. Bayou: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  14. Plateau: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  15. Savannah: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  16. Scrubland: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  17. Taiga: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  18. Tropical Island: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  19. Tundra: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  20. Underground Sea: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  21. Volcanic Island: mana-fixing should not be so easy in Cumly Cube
  22. Hissing Quagmire: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  23. Lavaclaw Reaches: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  24. Lumbering Falls: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  25. Shambling Vent: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  26. Needle Spires: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  27. Raging Ravine: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  28. Stirring Wildwood: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting
  29. Wandering Fumarole: creature lands are too versatile and discourage disciplined drafting

INSTANT

  1. Abnormal Endurance: too typical a card for black
  2. Aerial Predation: too narrow
  3. Alchemist's Gift: too weak
  4. Arbor Armament: too weak
  5. Autumn's Veil: too narrow
  6. Betrayal of Flesh: too weak
  7. Bladebrand: too typical a card for black
  8. Brainstorm: we’ve seen enough of this card already in other formats
  9. Cathartic Pyre: too much utility for an instant
  10. Comet Storm: one-sided board wipes need to be focused on creature type
  11. Consider: too typical a card for blue
  12. Crippling Chill: too typical a card for blue
  13. Crush: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  14. Dawn Charm: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
  15. Dive Down: hexproof makes for less interesting games
  16. Divine Offering: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  17. Dragon's Fire: too typical a card for red
  18. Electrify: too typical a card for red
  19. Fell the Pheasant: too narrow
  20. Gainsay: too narrow
  21. Gut Shot: too weak
  22. Heroic Intervention: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
  23. Hold the Line: too narrow
  24. Into the Core: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  25. Lash of Thorns: too weak
  26. Make Your Mark: too weak
  27. Opt: too typical a card for blue
  28. Overload: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  29. Pitfall Trap: too narrow
  30. Repulse: too typical a card for blue
  31. Scrap: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  32. Seedtime: too narrow
  33. Shatter: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  34. Smash: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  35. Smashing Success: spot artifact removal is not to be part of Cumly Cube
  36. Smite: too narrow
  37. Turn to Frog: turns a creature into a Frog, not a supported creature type
  38. Unsummon: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better

SORCERY

  1. Blasphemous Act: too typical a card for red
  2. Chart a Course: too much utility
  3. Cleansing Wildfire: too much utility
  4. Cultivate: too typical a card for green
  5. Disentomb: too typical a card for black
  6. From the Ashes: too narrow
  7. Funeral Rites: too much utility
  8. Gitaxian Probe: too typical a card for blue
  9. Necromantic Summons: too typical a card for black
  10. Nighthaze: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
  11. Persist: too typical a card for black
  12. Pirate's Prize: too much utility
  13. Ponder: too much utility
  14. Reanimate: too typical a card for black
  15. Recover: other cards in Cumly Cube fill this role better
  16. Serum Visions: too typical a card for blue
  17. Spitting Earth: too typical a card for red
  18. Thoughtcast: too typical a card for blue

ADDED:

ARTIFACT

  1. Coat of Arms: encourages building around creature types
  2. Patchwork Banner: encourages building around creature types

CREATURE

  1. Arahbo, the First Fang: supports the Avatar and Cat creature types
  2. Avatar of the Resolute: supports the Avatar creature type
  3. Autonomous Assembler: supports the Assembly-worker creature type
  4. Bag End Porter: supports the Dwarf creature type
  5. Breya, Etherium Shaper: supports the Human and Thopter creature types
  6. Captain Storm, Cosmium Raider: supports the Human and Pirate creature types
  7. Captivating Unicorn: supports the Unicorn creature type and supports enchantment decks
  8. Centaur Battlemaster: supports the Centaur creature type and functions as a strong payoff for prowess decks
  9. Chronicler of Heroes: supports the Centaur creature type
  10. Conclave Cavalier: supports the Centaur and Elf creature types
  11. Conclave Mentor: supports the Centaur creature type
  12. Crosis, the Purger: supports the Dragon creature type
  13. Fear of Exposure: supports the Nightmare creature type and supports enchantment decks
  14. Ghostly Changeling: supports all creature synergy decks
  15. Gimli of the Glittering Caves: supports the Dwarf creature type
  16. Glissa Sunseeker: supports the Elf creature type
  17. Graveshifter: supports all creature synergy decks
  18. Gwenna, Eyes of Gaea: supports the Elf creature type
  19. Haunt of the Dead Marshes: supports the Elf and Nightmare creature types
  20. He Who Hungers: supports the Spirit creature type
  21. Heedless One: supports the Avatar and Elf creature types
  22. Jungle Creeper: supports the Elemental creature type
  23. Jungle Delver: supports the Merfolk creature type
  24. Kataki, War's Wage: supports the Spirit creature type and functions as artifact hate
  25. Keiga, the Tide Star: supports the Dragon and Spirit creature types
  26. Kiora's Follower: supports the Merfolk creature type
  27. Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca: supports the Merfolk creature type
  28. Lagonna-Band Trailblazer: supports the Centaur creature type
  29. Marwyn, the Nurturer: supports the Elf creature type
  30. Master Skald: supports the Dwarf creature type
  31. Mine Layer: supports the Dwarf creature type
  32. Neighborhood Guardian: supports the Unicorn creature type
  33. Promised Kannushi: supports the Human and Spirit creature types
  34. Realmwalker: supports all creature synergy decks
  35. Reveka, Wizard Savant: supports the Dwarf creature type
  36. Seraphic Steed: supports the Angel and Unicorn creature types
  37. Soul of Zendikar: supports the Avatar and Beast creature types
  38. Steadfast Unicorn: supports the Unicorn creature type
  39. Stingmoggie: supports the Elemental creature type and functions as artifact hate
  40. Sygg, River Cutthroat: supports the Merfolk creature type
  41. Vineshaper Mystic: supports the Merfolk creature type
  42. Wistful Selkie: supports the Merfolk creature type
  43. Yargle and Multani: supports the Elemental and Spirit creature types
  44. Zacama, Primal Calamity: supports the Dinosaur creature type

ENCHANTMENT

  1. Aura of Silence: functions as artifact and enchantment hate
  2. Aura Shards: functions as artifact and enchantment hate
  3. Blessed Sanctuary: supports the Unicorn creature type
  4. Corrosion: functions as artifact hate
  5. Embargo: interesting prison piece for stasis decks
  6. Font of Fortunes: card advantage at a fair price for Cumly Cube
  7. Gate to Phyrexia: functions as artifact hate and supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
  8. Impending Disaster: a useful piece for aggressive decks or niche graveyard decks
  9. Shared Animosity: supports all creature synergy decks

LAND (types are grouped together in this list)

  1. Drowned Catacomb: completing the full set of check lands
  2. Glacial Fortress: completing the full set of check lands
  3. Hinterland Harbor: completing the full set of check lands
  4. Sulfur Falls: completing the full set of check lands
  5. Cascade Bluffs: completing the full set of filter lands
  6. Graven Cairns: completing the full set of filter lands
  7. Mystic Gate: completing the full set of filter lands
  8. Sunken Ruins: completing the full set of filter lands
  9. Wooded Bastion: completing the full set of filter lands
  10. Darkwater Catacombs: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  11. Desolate Mire: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  12. Ferrous Lake: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  13. Fire-Lit Thicket: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  14. Flooded Grove: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  15. Overflowing Basin: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  16. Skycloud Expanse: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  17. Sunscorched Divide: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands
  18. Viridescent Bog: completing the full set of Odyssey filter lands

INSTANT

  1. Accelerate: supports prowess decks
  2. And They Shall Know No Fear: supports all creature synergy decks
  3. Artifact Mutation: functions as artifact hate and supports the Saproling creature type
  4. Bandage: supports prowess decks and is also funny
  5. Brokers Charm: charms are an important part of Cumly Cube
  6. Charge Through: supports prowess decks
  7. Cremate: supports prowess decks
  8. Mirrodin Avenged: supports prowess decks
  9. Poison the Blade: supports prowess decks and offers deathtouch in green instead of its typical color, black
  10. Pressure Point: supportsli prowess decks and offers tapping in white instead of its typical color, blue
  11. Steady Progress: supports prowess decks as well as slower proliferate decks
  12. Sugar Rush: supports prowess decks and offers power boost in black instead of its typical color, red
  13. Treacherous Greed: supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
  14. Turf Wound: a strange tempo card that fits the ethos of Cumly Cube
  15. Warriors' Lesson: supports prowess decks and might end up as green Ancestral Recall

SORCERY

  1. Altar of Bone: supports the niche but possible sacrifice deck
  2. Aphetto Dredging: supports all creature synergy decks
  3. Apocalypse: total game resets are an important part of Cumly Cube, because you end up playing more Cumly Cube!
  4. Ashen Powder: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
  5. Blood for Bones: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
  6. Breath of Life: offers reanimation in white instead of its typical color, black
  7. Broken Bond: functions as artifact and enchantment hate yet also ramps
  8. Channel the Suns: a strange yet useful mana-fixer. Out with fetch lands, in with sorcery WUBRG!
  9. Cloak of Feathers: supports prowess decks
  10. Crippling Fear: supports all creature synergy decks
  11. False Dawn: supports prowess decks and might offer mana-fixing in niche situations? Even if this card is pretty useless, it screams Cumly Cube
  12. Grim Tutor: tutoring is a small part of Cumly Cube but very important in the right decks
  13. Growth Spasm: offers ramp, mana-fixing, and supports the Eldrazi creature type
  14. Hymn of Rebirth: offers reanimation in green and white instead of its typical color, black
  15. Ice Storm: land destruction is a small part of Cumly Cube but a necessary balance, and not usually in green
  16. Jace's Triumph: there are Jace planeswalkers in Cumly Cube
  17. Mana Vapors: a strange tempo card that fits the ethos of Cumly Cube
  18. Many Partings: offers mana-fixing and food
  19. Migratory Route: offers mana-fixing and supports the Bird creature type
  20. Obzedat's Aid: offers reanimation in black and white
  21. Ordered Migration: supports the Bird creature type
  22. Raise the Palisade: supports all creature synergy decks
  23. Resourceful Return: a more situational and odd piece for black graveyard decks and artifact decks
  24. Ribbons of Night: offers direct damage in black instead of its typical color, red
  25. Rise of the Witch-king: a more situational and odd piece for reanimator decks
  26. Riveteers Confluence: similar to a charm
  27. Safewright Quest: offers slight mana-fixing in green and white
  28. Solve the Equation: tutoring is a small part of Cumly Cube but very important in the right decks
  29. Sweep the Skies: supports the Thopter creature type
  30. Temporal Machinations: supports artifact decks
  31. Unnatural Restoration: supports proliferate decks
  32. Urborg Repossession: a more situational and odd piece for black graveyard decks

Wesinator69 on Imma Baddie I Do What I Please

1 year ago

I know you hate tapped lands so I would suggest the following:

Also I hate Temple of the False God it should stop being included in precons. Plus 37 lands is a bit much. There are a couple other cards that don't seem to do enough for the mana cost. So I would also suggest the following:

StivoxiusPrime on Nightmare Tribal

1 year ago

also, what about Sunken Ruins ??

Nalgaeryn on EDH - Dralnu, Lord of Exile

1 year ago

Whoops, here are the most expensive cards in the deck and rough prices currently.

Last_Laugh on Wilhelt and Sheoldred unite!

2 years ago

Arcane Signet, Dimir Signet, and Talisman of Dominance over Mind Stone, Sky Diamond, and whatever.

Plumb the Forbidden over Read the Bones. Instant speed makes this card.

Feed the Swarm is your only answer to enchantments in black.

Exotic Orchard, Underground River, Drowned Catacomb, Darkwater Catacombs, Morphic Pool, Tainted Isle, and Sunken Ruins are all pretty budget friendly.

nuperokaso on Ninjas and Rogues

2 years ago

zapyourtumor on Murky Waters

2 years ago

Card Suggestions Show

I think the main decision you have to make with this deck is whether you want it to be a true control deck or a tempo deck. A true control deck would try to trade one for one and build card advantage before dropping a threat like Murktide or Jace or simply winning with Snappy beatdown. A tempo deck on the other hand would try to turbo out a quick Murktide and then protect that threat.

Mixing control and tempo is nothing new, and it sometimes works quite well. But because a lot of the cards from each type of deck don't necessarily go well together, you can sometimes end up in an awkward situation.

Here, you definitely have a mix of both types (which, I'd like to emphasize, is not necessarily bad). Archmage's Charm, Counterspell, Cryptic Command, Snapcaster Mage, Devastation Tide and Jace, the Mind Sculptor are all heavily control-flavored cards in your deck. They all either break even or generate card advantage, or massively stall out the game.

On the other hand, Force of Negation, Otherworldly Gaze, Thought Scour, Spell Pierce, and Subtlety are all tempo-flavored cards.

The problem with this combination in this deck is that half of your cards aim to turbo out a Murktide Regent as fast as possible with Otherworldly Gaze and Thought Scour and then protect it in the short term with cheap spells like Dismember, Force of Negation, Subtlety, and Spell Pierce. The main problems with these cards is that they are pretty terrible topdecks late game. Scour isn't too bad because it cantrips, but topdecking a Gaze when you really needed a counterspell or card advantage engine or a Murktide would probably feel terrible. And all the control-type cards aim to reach that stage of the game.

One example of a problem that arises when you try and combine these two archetypes is in the manabase. Tempo decks typically don't need many lands; depending on the deck's mana curve, we are generally looking at 19-20 lands, and occasionally even 18 or less. On the other hand, control decks almost always want at least 22-23 lands, sometimes up to 24-26 lands in order to reliably play their more expensive spells on curve like Archmage's Charm, Cryptic Command and Snapcaster Mage, and to also always have mana held up during their opponents turn for a reactive spell.

Of course, many cards fit very flexibly into both tempo and control decks, for example Counterspell is just so strong it works in both, while Consider being a cheap cantrip also fits into both types. So in my opinion one of the most important decisions you should make, if you want to make the deck more cohesive and just function smoother as a whole, is whether you want to lean more towards tempo or control.

Quick disclaimer: I think it is definitely possible to make the deck more competitive while keeping both tempo and control aspects; however you should probably then trim both the very slow control-leaning cards (Cryptic Command, Devastation Tide, Jace, the Mind Sculptor), and the cheap tempo-leaning cards (Otherworldly Gaze, Thought Scour, Force of Negation) and replace them with cards more towards the middle ground. The rest of the cards, like Archmage's Charm, Subtlety, Force of Negation, Spell Pierce, Dismember, and of course Murktide Regent are all flexible enough that they can slot into both types of decks.

The second important decision to make is what secondary color, if any, you want for your deck in order to complement the primary color (blue). The main issue with mono blue control is that you have very few ways to deal with resolved permanents, which is why most players typically splash white or black (or occasionally red). Blue only has access to bounce spells, which are decent in tempo decks but generally bad in control decks because they are card disadvantage (and also terrible late).

Here, I see you kind of "splashed" black, but your only maindeck spell with black pips uses phyrexian mana anyways, while the only black spell in your sideboard can be casted with only blue mana. In my opinion, since you already have black lands, I would commit fully to a UB manabase by including a few more fetches (U fetches since that's your main color) because it gives you access to a lot of strong options:

Drown in the Loch is a really good spell doubling as both removal and countermagic at only 2 cmc, and only gets stronger as the game goes on. Fatal Push is another great removal spell which is generally stronger than Dismember, although it needs at least around 7 fetches to show its full potential. You can also run discard like Inquisition of Kozilek, although that is more tempo/midrange-esque so it may not be a great fit for this deck. Black also gives you an actual boardwipe in the form of Damnation, which is definitely a lot stronger than something like Devastation Tide since it gets rid of the creatures permanently and indirectly generates CA by trading with multiple enemy creature cards. It also doesn't hit Jace. If you don't think you need it in the mainboard, it can be a great sideboard inclusion. Lastly you have access to some sideboard options like Unmoored Ego.

If all of the blue pip spells like Counterspell and Archmage's Charm have you worried about mana fixing issues, you can run the filter land Sunken Ruins which is great in these types of decks to ensure you can cast both BB and UUU spells.

Those two main points aside, I have a few other card suggestions I think could work well here, some of which lean more control and some which lean more tempo.

Ledger Shredder is a great card which leans a bit more towards tempo but unlike Gaze/Thought Scour it helps turbo out a Murktide while also growing into a significant threat itself.

Aether Gust and Mystical Dispute are decent color-specific sideboard cards.

Remand is a tempo-leaning card that is generally not great in pure control lists, but could be good here if you decide to stick to the turbo murktide strategy.

Spreading Seas is probably the best sideboard option mono-blue has against Urza's Saga.

Memory Deluge has a bit of antisynergy with Murktide, but a very good digging spell if you decide to go towards control.

Orvar, the All-Form is another great sideboard card which instantly turns the tables on any Creativity player thinking they auto won the game after cheating out an early Archon of Cruelty.

If you made it this far, thanks for reading all of my comments. I like the deck and I'm excited to see where you can take it in the future. Happy brewing!

Load more
Have (1) Azdranax
Want (0)