Watery Grave

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Watery Grave

Land — Island Swamp

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As Watery Grave enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, it enters the battlefield tapped.

Immortalys on Land mana (Inner)

1 month ago

I too want to add to this my confusion. The theory that the two different wedges for the same colour differentiate between tapped and untapped seems to follow through 90% of the time, but in my Circu, Dexile Lobotomist deck -for example- the card Fetid Pools is counted among the untapped lands, while Sunken Hollow is counted among the tapped lands. I get why a card like Watery Grave or Morphic Pool would be counted among untapped lands, because they do have the ability to enter untapped, even if they don't always do so, but Fetid Pools has no way of entering untapped, and Sunken Hollow does, so why are they in their respective wedges?

notcapps on johny johny yes papa eating sugar no papa

2 months ago

so the first thing i think you should do is add some ritual spells like Dark Ritual and Jeska's Will dark ritual will give you 4 black mana for free and jeskas will will give you an 20 cards you can cast from exile and a whole ton of mana,tutors will also give you card advantage when you really need it, one of my personal favorites thats more budget is Grim Tutor, but if you want to break the bank or use proxies (ew) Demonic Tutor is your best bet. as far as lands go, Grixis Panorama is a really stellar card in tandem with cards like Smoldering Marsh because its a mountian and a swamp, you can search for that when you crack the panorama, other examples include but are not limited to, Sunken Hollow Watery Grave Blood Crypt Steam Vents and the original true dual lands, which are too expensive to really even mention. i would personally trade out Dogged Pursuit for something like Exquisite Blood and also consider putting in some boardwipes like Toxic Deluge and alternate wincons such as Exsanguinate take the Ancient Carp out of the deck too, it has no flavor text and dosent contribute anything for the 5 mana youre paying for it. Aetherflux Reservoir is a great card in any storm deck, because youre gonna gain an incredible amount of life with all the spells youre casting. make sure you put more counterspells in, such as Counterspell and if you want something really fun, try Counterbalance, its one of my personal favorite cards and i run it in almost all my blue decks. Take out Dwindle for something like Imprisoned in the Moon and you can cast it on someones commander and they can no longer play their commander as it is now a land :) take out the Falthis, Shadowcat Familiar and replace it with something like a Niv-Mizzet, Parun for some more card draw and board threats, and make sure that at the end of the game your having fun my dude, at the end of the day winning is important but having fun is even more important. Welcome to EDH!

Mortlocke on The Queen's Egg

2 months ago

Hey abierto,

Indeed it’s been awhile since you commented, glad to hear from you. Thank you for bringing these cards onto my radar, let’s discuss them - I can easily tell that Survival of the Fittest would dramatically change the way the deck plays – with Survival of the Fittest + Dregscape Sliver on the board, access to at least 3 mana, 1 creature in hand, and at least an additional I can combo out and win the game on that turn. The only drawbacks I can see here are the mana requirements coupled with the more than likely opponent interaction that would be coming my way. Given that Dregscape Sliver’s ability is only sorcery speed – that only solidifies my concern as A simple Bojuka Bog could wreck me If I do not populate my graveyard with care and proper timing. This makes me wish that Paradox Engine wasn’t banned – I really miss that card. The verdict is out on Survival of the Fittest, I want to like to this card but I can’t help but feel hesitant in including it (let alone the investment). I think I’ll maybe proxy it in and see where that takes me. Speaking which, check out this really awesome alter:

Survival of the Fittest Sliver Alter Show

Dregscape Sliver on the other hand I’m considering including. Maybe cutting Patriarch's Bidding, as I do not like the mana investment and the potential added bonus of assisting opponents. In the metas I play in there are a lot of tribal decks – I’m sitting across from at least one or two other tribal decks every game. I’m ordering a copy today, so thank you for mentioning that card again.

Hi Sneuxfox (death by Snu snu?),

Welcome to my deck page! Thank you for posting. I’ve always wanted to work Magma Sliver into this decklist, but I don’t think it would be a good fit – Magma lends itself toward a Sliver deck that compliments a more Aggro strategy where the goal is to hit a “critical mass” of creatures and abuse enough evasion keywords to get a single creature to knock an opponent out. First Sliver's Chosen would be an absolute must include alongside Magma Sliver, as it would solidify a Voltron strategy by stacking Exalted triggers alongside Magma’s ability. I definitely agree that the aforementioned can get out hand when you have just one Sliver be the target of multiple triggers.

I agree that it's criminal that Magma doesn't make it's way into alot of lists, maybe it's due to most decks wanting to lean into the Mid-range Sliver tool box? Or maybe it's because the deck would need to be more Voltron centric? I decided to throw together a quick decklist as an example of what I think the average deck running Magma Sliver would look like:

Budget Aggro Sliver Decklist Show

What're your thoughts on the list, Sneuxfox ?

multimedia on Satoru and the ninja deep sea creatures

2 months ago

Hey, interesting concept, combining Ninjas with sea monsters. Well done if this is your first attempt at deck building, you have good card sense.

Some cards here that are not as good as the others that could be upgraded, even on a budget: Prismatic Lens, Doom Blade, Nemesis of Reason, Ambition's Cost, Commander's Sphere, Rogue Class, Tromokratis, Blade of the Oni.

  • 1x more Island --> Tromokratis
  • 1x more Island --> Nemesis of Reason
  • 1x more Swamp --> Doom Blade

30 lands is low when you want to get to at least four mana to ninjutsu with Satoru. Consider cutting a couple of the high CMC sea monsters that are not as good as the others, Tromokratis and Nemesis of Reason, to add a few more lands? Could just add more of each basic land or there's many other options that are more expensive price: Watery Grave, Morphic Pool, Drowned Catacomb, Shipwreck Marsh, etc. Some budget options are: Ice Tunnel (another land Marsh Flats can get), Temple of Deceit, Esper Panorama.

Prismatic Lens and Commander's Sphere could be upgraded to mana rocks that can combo with Hullbreaker Horror to make infinite mana. Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice combo with Sol Ring by repeatedly bounce/cast them with Hullbreaker to make infinite mana. Sol pays for itself plus 1 extra colorless mana each time you tap it before it's bounced by Hullbreaker. Astral is better because once you make infinite colorless then you can pay that colorless to cast Astral to make infinite blue or black mana. When you have infinite colorless then Arcane Signet or Dimir Signet can also be used to make infinite blue/black mana.

If you can create a copy of Hullbreaker from Thousand-Faced Shadow then this combo can bounce all your opponent's nonland permanents and keep doing this on each of your main phases.

Ingenious Infiltrator is a good Ninja for repeatable draw. Baleful Strix is a nice creature to enable ninjustu. Prosperous Thief is a Ninja for repeatable ramp who also triggers from a Rogue and there's many unblockable Rogues here.

Good luck with your deck.

wallisface on Dimir Horrors

3 months ago

Vampire Hexmage doesn’t particularly help you here, as it only interacts with Thing in the Ice  Flip, and is only mildly faster than casting spells anyway (while leaving your counter-magic down, so likely more vulnerable to interaction). I’d ditch it in place of Opt.

I’d also suggest removing Dimir Charm for more copies of your other, better, counterspell options. The charm is just going to be too situation too often to be useful.

I think you prolly want to work towards the full playsets of all of Darkslick Shores, Underground River and Watery Grave - your deck feels super-dependant on having access to both BB and UU on turn 2. If you can afford Polluted Delta, they’d obviously help too.

PuddinWing on Ferngully (Help Wanted!)

4 months ago

Cut the River of Tears and an Island for complete sets of Polluted Delta and Watery Grave. Even with a set of Deltas, I still don’t think it would be reliable enough to turn on Fatal Push. Considering removal, Infernal Grasp, Dismember, and Counterspell all have homes here. Murktide Regent will be tricky to handle without them. Bloodchief's Thirst in the side is a great way to deal with Wrenn and Six; other planeswalkers when kicked. I have more that I can’t think of right now.

PurePwnage on So I am Told

5 months ago

gergendomer, you're correct. I swapped out 3 Island's for Watery Grave. If I am hard casting Living End, I am probably loseing the game anyway.

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