Lost Leonin

Lost Leonin

Creature — Cat Soldier

Infect

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New Phyrexia (NPH) Common

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Format Legality
Vintage Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Highlander Legal
Limited Legal
Leviathan Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Modern Legal
Pauper Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Legacy Legal

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Lost Leonin Discussion

BlackoutX on The Cat Returns

2 months ago

Greater Good is a better draw engine than Ajani, Mentor of Heroes (also cheaper with the reprint).

Grafted Exoskeleton, Sword of the Animist and Shadowspear are just good especially in this deck.

Hungry Lynx is overpriced and can really hurt you. Jareth, Leonine Titan is quite slow. Seht's Tiger doesn't do much for its cost. Edge of Autumn, why?

no Lost Leonin or Skyhunter Skirmisher?

Spirits on Arahbo Orphanguard Infect Beats

3 months ago

Hey Knixx,

I don't think Leonin Relic-Warder + Oblivion Ring + Felidar Guardian loops.

  1. Oblivion Ring on battlefield
  2. Leonin Relic-Warder ETB targeting Oblivion Ring
  3. Resolve Leonin Relic-Warder ETB exiling Oblivion Ring
  4. Felidar Guardian ETB targeting Leonin Relic-Warder
  5. Resolve Felidar Guardian ETB exiling Leonin Relic-Warder and returning to battlefield
  6. Leonin Relic-Warder LTB is placed on the stack
  7. Leonin Relic-Warder ETB is placed on the stack targeting ? (I think as Active Player, you can choose the order LTB/ETB or ETB/LTB but could be wrong, for simplicity put it LTB/ETB, either way nothing to target with LRW, Oblivion Ring is still exiled until you resolve the LTB, but targets are selected when an ability is placed on the stack)

Yannik, Scavenging Sentinel should be fine because he delays the return of the LRW. The Yannik, Scavenging Sentinel also doesn't target, so you can choose what to exile on resolution so if something happens to LRW in the meantime, you can still exile another creature. The loop makes a large creature like an Inkmoth Nexus.

Oblivion Ring + Parallax Wave + Felidar Guardian will have the same trouble when the Oblivion Ring LTB/ETB enter the stack at the same time. But doesn't Parallax Wave + Felidar Guardian loop without the Oblivion Ring anyway? as long as you active Parallax Wave ability PRIOR to resolving the Felidar Guardian (and any 3 other creatures), then resolve the Felidar Guardian's ETB Exiling and returning Parallax Wave with 5 fade counters. Mentioning the Oblivion Ring just confuses it, I would remove that.

For infect beats, it is important to note that the primary Infect win-con is actually:

Lost Leonin + Arahbo, Roar of the World Eminence + Ajani, Caller of the Pride or Berserk or Duelist's Heritage (double strike). The other things you mention Grafted Exoskeleton/Triumph of the Hordes/Inkmoth Nexus are really secondary. Note: Triumph of the Hordes also turns ANY cat into a Lost Leonin + Eminence + Double strike for win.

Your enablers look right Regal Caracal/Greenwarden of Murasa/Aura Shards/Ajani's Chosen for Felidar Guardian + Parallax Wave

Lotus Petal is a good Greenwarden of Murasa target for infinite mana as well to enable the spells.

I would get Ajani, Caller of the Pride back in, he's the best, not sure where he went. Hope this helps!

Spirits on Arahbo Orphanguard Infect Beats

3 months ago

Hi Knixx,

Gaea's Cradle + Finale of Devastation is a good finish with Earthcraft + Squirrel Nest and it gives the creature it pulls in haste. If you pull in Regal Caracal, it gives you 1 attacker for each player that they have to deal with or lose the game (and you lifelink too)

Based on this, I would run Crop Rotation instead of Wild Growth (I would if i owned a Gaea's Cradle) and an Expedition Map instead of Leafkin Druid. The Expedition Map also increases your Mox Opal hypergeometric probability. Don't forget they both also pull Inkmoth Nexus into play if you draw the Gaea's Cradle or need to refuel infect to eliminate an opponent.

Day of Judgment seems wrong, Wrath of God is same but just better, Terminus has the advantage of getting rid of indestructible and a potential cost. I usually just use the swords to get protection, if you clear the board, and then play a Lost Leonin it becomes a sole creature threat for removal.

I see Presence of Gond in the maybeboard, assuming thinking of pairing it with Midnight Guard to make infinite 1/1 elf creatures? It's not bad, but Line 1) Infect T2/T3, 2) Infinite Squirrel, not sure you need a 3) Infinite Elf (but really fun). Midnight Guard + Presence of Gond is easier to tutor than Squirrel Nest + Earthcraft as well because 1 is a creature (unfortunately not a creature for Green Sun's Zenith). Also the creatures are untapped in this combo, vs. tapped Squirrels so a Concordant Crossroads can be a win, could be your potential line 3 for CMC6.

I've personally been avoiding non-T1 lands, if the game is only T4 (or less), Reflecting Pool and Sunpetal Grove going to hurt me in the long run. Luckily they both T2 lands so they aren't that bad, I really like Reflecting Pool too, so can't hate on either of those. The only exception I make is Hall of the Bandit Lord, the way I justify it, is Concordant Crossroads is , where Hall of the Bandit Lord costs to play but maintains 1 card advantage lol. It's a tough justification, but I think it's needed for the early infect multiplier, assuming I T1 Hall of the Bandit Lord.

I like Bronzehide Lion and Snake Umbra going a protection model for your Lost Leonin. With Bronzehide Lion, keeping the open incase they want to remove a vanilla 3/3 (6/6 with Arahbo so he can put a timer/pressure on a player or cause them to defend instead of tutoring a win) just seems wrong though. Snake Umbra might not work, because most removal in Commander is exile not destroy, but the draw is ok. If it was or and recurred like Rancor I would like it, at CMC3 it's just too slow for me and doesn't give the right protection (hexproof).

I mean the deck should work solid, I know how consistent my T2/T3 infect can be, and I can recover in mid-game with swords or combo out, if the game continues. None of our combos are Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation or Omniscience + Enter the Infinite, but we can infect those players who don't engage blockers early.

Your advantage is that Squirrel Nest + Earthcraft is CMC5 whereas my Heliod, Sun-Crowned + Walking Ballista is CMC9 (yuck). My advantage is I can tutor my pieces a little easier. I really like the deck.

At 20 AF's your 20% to T1 use a Mox Opal, your at 16 T1 playable now (excluding exo and swords but adding inkmoth). Expedition Map seems critical. Wish I had a Mox Diamond too. At 20 AF, <=3 AF is 95%.

Could use a Tooth and Nail as a finisher similar to Finale of Devastation since we can't tutor it, wouldn't take too much to build a combo for that. Academy Rector possibly could be a win, but we dont have Omniscience or Sac outlets lol.

There is a new Beast Within Generous Gift.

How have you found Pride Sovereign? I could never get it to work fast enough to be of value. PS Spike Feeder is awful lol, life does nothing for me, and the only way to kill with infinite life is AF which is impossible to tutor in Selesnya lol.

Keep up the research following the deck now, see if we can continue to innovate, and with an initiative to strengthen in all formats, maybe we'll get something useful. With Rin and Seri, Inseparable, I'm assuming there may be some more GOOD playable cats to pump us up!

Joe_Ken_ on

6 months ago

Well Authority of the Consuls will be a good help making your opponent’s creatures come in tapped so it is easier to land that hit to trigger goad.

Bloodthirsty Blade may also be an option to make sure someone’s best creature is always goaded.

A creature that would be great to add if you are wanting to stick with the cat tribal theme is Lost Leonin to get in for some infect damage.

A Blackblade Reforged may not be a bad equipment to pick up since it will let your legendary creatures hit like a truck.

MokraMrkva on Kitten Crusades

7 months ago

I would go with Arahbo, Roar of the World and with a tactic of always having one or two cats on the field trying to hit people. Go tall. Alms Collector , Enlightened Ascetic , Kinjalli's Sunwing , Lost Leonin , Skyhunter Skirmisher , Stalking Leonin , Temur Sabertooth , Whitemane Lion , some ramp, removals, protection, a board wipe or two and some equipment. would take out Jareth, Leonine Titan because too much mana, Jazal Goldmane, Nacatl War-Pride , Qasali Slingers and Jedit Ojanen of Efrava for the same reason. Also cool are Heroic Intervention and Selesnya Charm. Stave Off has a cat on it.

NiftyCheshireCat on Catmander

7 months ago

Hey cPute, thanks! I'm glad you like the deck! It was one of the earlier decks I built after getting back into magic after some time away (and obviously I took a number of ques from the precon). I put it together to introduce my wife to EDH for the first time and then just sort of kept upgrading it on and off over time.

I did run both Duelist's Heritage and Lost Leonin in the deck at one point. Ended up feeling like they (among many other cards) weren't preforming as well as I wanted them too so I swapped them out for True Conviction and Grafted Exoskeleton (though I ended up cutting the exoskeleton for one of the swords, infect just didn't fit the feel/theme I am going for when building this deck and my wife wasn't enjoying playing with those effects. It does work well with Sword of Truth and Justice though...).

As for Duelist's Heritage I've gone back and forth a bit. On the one hand it comes down faster than True Conviction, you often only have one creature you care about targeting, and it can be a political tool. On the other hand True Conviction can end games in it's own with little set up other than a few random creatures, doesn't run into issues with me giving my creatures pro white or shroud and not working, it works a bit better with some of the token/tribal sub themes, and life-gain is an okay side benefit in a deck like this that can struggle in a multiplayer setting. Honestly I'm still a bit torn between the two but I'm not sure what I would cut to make room for both.

Anyway, thanks for the tips and the feedback! I appreciate it :)

cPute on Catmander

7 months ago

I love kitties (it was my first preconstructed deck),so +1. :-)

Have you considered cards like Duelist's Heritage and Lost Leonin? I won two games on turn 3 with this "combo" (2nd turn Lost Leonin, 3rd turn Duelist's Heritage and attack with infect for 10).

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