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Priests of Norn
Creature — Cleric
Vigilance
Infect (This creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)
OdinPlaysGames on
1 year ago
Suggestions:
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Enchantments + Phyrexian Theme Phyrexian Censor Phyrexian Awakening
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More Infect + Toxic Support (& more Phyrexians) Priests of Norn Lost Leonin Shriek Raptor Tine Shrike
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Thematic Ramp Options Glistening Sphere Defiler of Faith
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Cards that should just be in this deck because they're good Smothering Tithe Mondrak, Glory Dominus Akroma's Will
Mortlocke on The Song of Phyresis
1 year ago
Thanks for posting! ONE is definitely going to shake this deck up considerably in that I absolutely plan to incorporate some of the spells that give opponents Poison counters - without targeting them, no less. I have a number of changes already planned and would love to hear your thoughts as I'm honestly having a bit of a tough time speculating on what to cut to make room. So far, here are my planned changes
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Ixhel, Descendent of Atraxa for Hand of the Praetors: Given that Infect will be less dominant of a mechanic among creatures in this deck cutting Hand of the Praetors seems logical. Besides, with the host of cards that allow me to place poison counters directly on opponents, Hand of the Praetors seems even less relevant.
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Skrelv, Defector Mite for Viridian Corrupter: Skrlev provides so many benefits being a psudo Mother of Runes that also grants Toxic and evasion. Viridian Corrupter's ETB effect is far too narrow for my liking, and only amounts to just a 2/2 with Infect. Toxic creatures such as Skrlev boast so many "goodstuff" effects that it's a no brainer why Corrupter has to be cut.
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Myr Convert for Grateful Apparition: Apparition has long been on the replacement list as it's a non-phyrexian. Myr Convert is a perfect replacement as it's another mana dork that can put poison counters on players. Losing a proliferation source is a loss, but given the horde of new Toxic creatures that proliferate off of one trigger or another, this overall is a net gain.
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Bloated Contaminator for Priests of Norn: Bloated Contaminator is actually my dream creature for the set. Evasion, Poison and Proliferate on a great body is just a dream come true. My only hope is that there is another creature just like it in March of the Machines. Priests of Norn is an okay creature for the most part but doesn't amount to much beyond just being a 1/4 infect creature.
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White Sun's Twilight for Winds of Abandon: I've always been somewhat disappointed with Winds of Abandon as it more likely than not can ramp my opponent far beyond my ability to stop them. Sure, a horde of tokens can be wiped out - but at what cost? White Sun's Twilight isn't exactly a one sided boardwipe, but it can get me a bunch of 1/1 creatures that put Poison counters on players on top of slowing them down.
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Vraska, Betrayal's Sting for Sheoldred, Whispering One: Obviously i'm happy to see Phyrexian themed planeswalkers and I'm overjoyed to see another Planeswalker with a focus on Poison counters. Swapping Vraska in for Sheoldred is both a mechanics and a flavor win - Sheoldred turned her back on Elesh Norn to pursue her own misguided and selfish desires along with the heretic Urbrask.
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Tyrranax Rex for Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger: I've enjoyed the Soft lock VoH places on the board just by virtue of being there alone, but I've felt that his control never really synchronized with the rest of the deck. Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider compliments the deck directly and is a huge flavor win. Tyrranax Rex just seems like the perfect upgrade as it is CMC cheaper, has almost as many keywords as Questing Beast and places multiple Poison counters on an opponent when it hits. Rex in my eyes is a "backup" Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon in terms of power level and "feel".
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Phyresis Outbreak for Toxic Deluge: Phyresis Outbreak is the mass removal I've always wished for and is a direct upgrade to Deluge - within the context of this deck that is. This card is absolutely a must include.
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The Seedcore for Swamp: The Seedcore gives me Sliver Hive vibes, but having a card that fixes my mana in a 4 color deck and is a flavor win just seems like a no-brainer.
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Venerated Rotpriest for Glistener Elf: Venerated Rotpriest is just a deterrent as this deck has very few spells that I would consider worthwhile for targeting my own creatures. Glistener Elf is an okay card but within the context of EDH it's "meh". Late game it hardly makes an impact without a horde of +1/+1 counters and some form of evasion.
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Contaminant Grafter for Blight Mamba: Containment Grafter feels like a great card that can help reinforce a boardstate and put additional pressure on opponents mid to late game. Early game it would essentially help me run away with the game through conditional ramp and card advantage. Blight Mamba has honestly never done much for me and generally is as impactful as Glistener Elf.
Now comes the list of cards I think are at least worth considering (that I may or may not include) but don't exactly know what to cut to make room for:
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Staff of Compleation: This is a big flashy card that caught my attention given the myriad of things it can do. However without the right combo piece this card could end up doing me more harm than good.
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Glistening Sphere: There are very few drop mana rocks that are worthwhile, but this one definitely caught my eye. I'm not sure if it's any better than Astral Cornucopia though, as i've been ramped into the stratosphere with just a few proliferation triggers. Not to mention it only gets better just by having Atraxa on the field. I really want to like this card, but it doesn't seem to make the cut. If only it were
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Infectious Inquiry: this seems like an absolute must have and am honestly considering cutting Phyrexian Arena for it. Arena does nothing the turn it ETBs and if I draw it late game it'll literally do nothing. Infectious Inquiry on the otherhand is always relevant, replaces itself and draws me a card. I just can't help but feel like i'm missing something by cutting Phyrexian Arena. I want to go ahead with this decision but I can't help but feel apprehensive and would really like your thoughts on this one.
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Infectious Bite: I want to love this card but unfortunately besides the commander there are relatively few creatures whose bite would make any meaningful impact on the game. I think I might pass on this one.
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Prologue to Phyresis: Everything you said about this card is spot on, and it is relevant at any point of the game. The question is - what to cut for it? I think cutting Contagion Clasp might be the move on this one, but i'm not entirely sure. Clasp is very conditional removal but what's important is that it's a repeatable proliferation source. But, maybe the new inclusions will help offset the loss of a proliferation source? I think this is the right move but I would like to hear your thoughts.
"What's your experience with Blightsteel Colossus and Contagion Engine? Do they ever come out to the battlefield or just happen to be on-theme inclusions?" To answer your question both hit the battlefield on a regular basis. Blightsteel Colossus is surprisingly easy to cast with a proliferated Astral Cornucopia or Everflowing Chalice. One of my best plays was countering a Villainous Wealth with being equal to 8 with Mana Drain and funneling that mana into a turn 5 Blightsteel. Contagion Engine is great for mass removal as well as a proliferation engine. If I tutor for it it's usually alongside Tangle Wire after Ichor Rats hit the field. It essentially grinds the game down to a snail's pace - or a halt under the right conditions.
End rant, sorry to write you a book but I had a lot on my mind. Please let me know what you think of all the upcoming changes!
wallisface on
2 years ago
toxicsunshine22 that strategy could definitely get some sneaky surprise wins with the enchant having flash. Some words of warning though:
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Auras are generally super-risky to use, because if your creature gets killspelled, you’ve just lost 2 cards for the opponents 1. That resource disadvantage is often pretty disastrous, so you have to be able to reliably close-out a game before it becomes an issue. This is why Auras are pretty-much never seen in competitive modern play.
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the enchant appears to have no other useful targets other than Priests of Norn. As you can’t reliably draw that card, there’s going to be loads of games where the enchant is uselessly stuck in your hand.
toxicsunshine22 on
2 years ago
The new plan is to use Solid Footing to buff the heck outta Priests of Norn
MKnight1807 on E. Honda, Sumo Champion (Big Butt Slaps)
2 years ago
I have a secondary version of this deck focused on mass token generation. To get this deck, swap out the cards listed in the Maybeboard section for the following:
Sterling0528 on The Song of Phyresis
2 years ago
Thank you for the detailed response! I used to have an Atraxa infect deck that also aimed to be maximally ideal within the infect gameplan. I lost the list a long time ago, but it utilized a lot of combat spells like Berserk, Might of Old Krosa, etc. to try to eliminate people as fast as possible. It didn't have a very good win rate, and I think your list is much better!
Scriptures is great if you're gameplan centers on one creature, but I think you need Atraxa and at least 1 creature with infect to start taking people out. You could consider adding Phyresis and/or Grafted Exoskeleton to make Atraxa both your source of infect and proliferation, which makes Scriptures much better. Both also allow you to give your praetors infect if needed. Since you're introducing a new source of infect, you could probably cut Priests of Norn for one. Otherwise, I can't think of anything that could need replacing. Love the list!
Mortlocke on The Song of Phyresis
2 years ago
Sterling0528, thanks for commenting on the page and sharing your thoughts. My logic for running Phyrexian Scriptures is between flavor and having a proliferation target in addition to a semi-one sided boardwipe. But to answer your question there is only one choice for what card I select to replace it: Toxic Deluge. Getting around Indestructible, and not having to wait on the saga to get to II to get your wrath effect already make the previously mentioned a superior choice. Also, the life loss can be somewhat mitigated by Atraxa, Praetors' Voice under the right circumstances. You also reminded me that there was a reprint that has flavor text from Papa Yawgmoth, so I decided to swap in that instance of Toxic Deluge in for Phyrexian Scriptures as it maintains my flavor requirements.
There are however some honorable mentions I thought of in case Deluge isn't to your taste:
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Culling Ritual in a more competitive meta can do wonders. I've seen this spell ramp a player in excess of 6 or 7 mana on a good turn. Depending on the shifts in my own meta I'm considering running this spell as well.
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Black Sun's Zenith is a card I find genuinely interesting, one that I experimented with in an earlier iteration of the deck that I think deserves a revisit.
What I would replace Priests of Norn with? No idea. Honestly it's just a placeholder for a better infect creature who will hopefully be printed in the near future. I'm really holding my breath for a for a mono-white color shifted Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon like creature. Given that infect is parasitic, the slot needs to be reserved for an infect creature. On that same note both Grateful Apparition and Spike Weaver are slated to be replaced when better options are printed. My wishlist would be a monowhite creature with infect and proliferate, and another new infect creature that doubles as a stax piece that breaks parity through the proliferation of counters (like Tangle Wire on a body). One can dream though.
What other changes would you make with the deck? Thanks for commenting.
Squee_Spirit_Guide on Azorius Testudo Spearhead
2 years ago
Priests of Norn might be fun. It's a little higher on the curve, but it's a one-hit kill with Aegis of the Heavens.
I'm not sure about Twisted Image. It's kind of a dead card once Huatli, the Sun's Heart or High Alert is out. It might be worth splashing green for things like Assault Formation and Tower Defense.
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