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Homeward Path Discussion
2 days ago
hey burferking, thanks for the input
you may be right about things like the Abyssal Persecutor abilities, i'll have to report back to you once i see it happen. i play on mtgo, so i'll see how that goes
your deck looks great, and i completely agree with you about the deck being casual. i like it for what it is as well. i usually play a lot of durdly-pillowfort-grouphug type decks, so this is just a slightly more chaotic take on what i'm usually already doing.
as for the card suggestions, i don't know how i forgot Homeward Path , i'll be adding that in asap.
Demonic Tutor will definitely go in once i get it on mtgo. it's a few dollars and i just haven't gotten around to buying it. i do wanna keep the tutors to a minimum, so i probably won't add more than that replacement. however, Mastermind's Acquisition is functionally the same card as Diabolic Tutor in commander. unless your playgroup allows you access to a wishboard i suppose
3 days ago
You may like Homeward Path to regain your creatures, Aminatou, the Fateshifter or any card in this list List of EDH Chaos Cards copy + suggestions for chaos. I also recommand much more tutors, especially Demonic Tutor and Mastermind's Acquisition , since they are stricly better than Diabolic Tutor . I' m taking note for Goldnight Castigator , but find it dangerous for oneself!
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Reflecting Pool is not eligible to be reprinted in this set, because it is already legal in modern, which is very unfortunate, since it is much more expensive than it should be, so I would like to see lands such as Meteor Crater , Temple of the False God or Homeward Path reprinted in this set; WotC likely will want to keep Ancient Tomb only for EDH, legacy, and vintage.
2 weeks ago
Sandwurm Convergence would be useful late-game. Brooding Saurian might be a good utility piece. Homeward Path is better but $$. Verdurous Gearhulk maybe? Rhonas the Indomitable and Predator Ooze might make good blockers.
2 weeks ago
Good point about Haven of the Spirit Dragon ; I've also only ever used the ability 1-2 times in almost as many years.
I might just cut that, Path of Ancestry , and Homeward Path for more consistent color/untapped sources, probably directly for Exotic Orchard , Forbidden Orchard , and Cinder Glade . Probably not worth the small upside on Taiga vs the $$$. Greater Good also serves here as protection against getting our Dragons stolen.
I may eventually test Mox Diamond and Chrome Mox , but we want to be hitting land drops, stay up on card, and go at least to midgame, so the explosiveness of Sol Ring , Mana Crypt , and Mana Vault is probably enough for this list/strategy.
2 weeks ago
-Good catch; I did indeed mean to tag Dromoka, the Eternal in that post. After some more testing I am coming around to the fact that the multiple triggers are fine with dorks out, both to beef up blockers and because it doesn't take too many triggers to go off before you're putting them on bodies with evasion/non-mana abilities. It has also been relevant to getting Selvala, Heart of the Wilds out of a lower-X Toxic Deluge range.
-As to Dragons, I'm currently not missing any particular one that I've cut, including Hellkite Tyrant . If anything it just increases our perceived threat level and draws hate a bit before we're equipped to snowball or deal with it. I may make some cuts to find room again for Dragonlord Kolaghan and Glorybringer , in that order.
- Teferi's Protection is another card that's a meta call, but personally I'm still a bit down on it, as it is very good for casual games but very meh for competitive games. It saved my bacon against an alpha swing from a Bogles-style Enchantress deck once, but it doesn't protect from infinite mill wins, and usually also some storm wins, Lab Man lines, and/or Walking Ballista lines. I'd rather just have the single one blue counterspell, Stubborn Denial , for backup against Cyclonic Rift or sweeper effects we don't want to see stick. The Greater Good package is here for more consistent sweeper protection with a higher ceiling, and I don't like holding up 3CMC for what is often essentially a flexible Fog effect. But that's just me, and in many cases Teferi's Protection can be a real beast. I'd just rather have the flexibility and lower CMC of the hard counter for non-creature spells.
-I don't think we need 3CMC draw, either; instead, I'm looking at a way to recur Patriarch's Bidding so we can go off twice and dig through most of the deck over two turns with Greater Good out. So far I'm going the most mana-efficient route and playing Noxious Revival , as that also can serve as graveyard hate against opponents in corner cases, and since it can be cast for 2 life/Phyrexian mana only, and at instant speed (vs Regrowth ).
-If anything, at the moment, I may do some work on my land choices, eventually just biting the bullet and swapping the extra Forest/Mountain in Sheltered Thicket for Taiga , re-evaluating Path of Ancestry for Exotic Orchard or Forbidden Orchard , and swapping Homeward Path for another colored source, possibly Sunpetal Grove .
2 weeks ago
Well, I think what we're probably hitting now is the wall where the core of the deck (36 lands, around 19-22 dragons, 5-6 high-impact dorks, 3-4 green land ramp spells, and a support suite split between artifacts/enchantments) is feeling more or less settled, and tweaks can and should be made depending on the kind of table we're expecting or seated at. I've started bringing my binder of extra cards for this deck to make a few swaps for games 2-3, when/if I can get them.
In longer games, for instance, it may be that I've pushed the curve so low that there aren't enough haymakers/higher impact+higher cost spells left in order to turn the corner. In which case Crux of Fate , Wild Pair , and/or Rishkar's Expertise , just to name a few, could be slotted in as 1:1 swaps for lower CMC and lower impact wipes, enchantments, or draw.
A few other thoughts:
-I'm going to try Sensei's Divining Top over Expedition Map this week and see how that feels. For me, Homeward Path may become a flex/sideboard card, in which case the emergency draw/draw filtered with Top might be preferable.
-Agree that Dragonlord Kolaghan has been a bit low impact. I also haven't been thrilled with the interaction between Dragonlord Dromoka and the dork suite, as often I'm just forced now to put the counters on a dork. But that at least can help get them out of a healthy Toxic Deluge range later in the game? I'd look at slotting back in Glorybringer for Noble Hierarch in slower matches, though, as the fixing she provides is mostly in our splash colors.
- Fire Covenant seems like a good card to test in the Toxic Deluge spot, as we don't want to lose our dork package to our own cards, and as we really only usually want to be wiping out some of the biggest threats. If indestructible/hexproof/shroud is an issue, though, then Toxic Deluge will probably stay in.
-For now, I'd rather have the lower CMC and flexibility of Assassin's Trophy over Abrupt Decay , as the latter can often be a dead draw in mid to late game for slower matches and the former is always relevant, but really that entire interaction package can be swapped around depending on the meta. I don't think 3CMC is too much for interaction, but given the clump of 3CMC cards and our need often to tap out through turns 4-5, sometimes even turn 6 if our sequencing is slower, 1-2 CMC interaction spells have felt a lot more useful/easier to hold up while developing our board.
-I'll also look at slotting Sarkhan the Mad into the sideboard for matches with board stalls/pillowfort/anti-creature tech. I guess my hesitation with planeswalkers still remains that we don't generally want to be blocking/defending them and that people may start running anti-planeswalker tech in main decks now that War of the Spark is here, but I can see corner cases where this one would be useful, vs Sarkhan, Fireblood , where I feel like most games will play out as you suggest: You tap out to cast him on curve and maybe get to rummage once, ramp once, then he dies.
-Looking at your current list, and not including the commander, I see 9 overall draw effects, and that's about 1 short of where I like to be personally. The one weakness I've felt so far is that out of those 9-10 slots in both of our lists, none of it is unconditional draw but delayed/triggered draw. If anything Night's Whisper may not be enough on its own, so I'd look again at Read the Bones , Painful Truths , and/or Phyrexian Arena , the latter for slower matches only?
Homeward Path occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.08%