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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Hunted Lammasu
Creature — Lammasu
Flying
When Hunted Lammasu enters the battlefield, create a 4/4 black Horror creature token under target opponent's control.
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endles whispers edh
5 months ago
I read the thread when I tried to look up the rules for the cards which is kinda important for EDH Endless Whispers. (I plan on including it in Obeka)
In a 1v1 match it mostly tries to get the best creature of an opponent while donating negative effects. But in commander it becomes a game of "hot potato" where you can never be sure who gets the creatures of another player but you can decide what "garbage" you donate. That is the gist of what the deck will do in a multiplayer game.
Depending on what you give away you may want cards that can counter triggered abilities in case ove Leveler, Sky Swallower, Boldwyr Heavyweights, Eater of Days, Hunted Wumpus, Inverter of Truth, Dust Elemental, Avatar of Discord, Indentured Djinn Ebon Drake Plague Reaver Master of the Feast Tempting Wurm, the haunted one like Hunted Troll, Hunted Dragon,Hunted Dragon, Hunted Lammasu or Hunted Phantasm. Personally I would use Obeka, Brute Chronologist to counter the ETB of the creatures you play by ending the turn and then giving them to an opponent. But that only works for when the creature with negative effect enters the battlefield during your turn. But it is a great plan B in case you don't have Endless Whispers to give your opponents creatures from the list above by simply playing an 8/8 trample for then ending the turn before the trigger resolves.
Other options are Jon Irenicus, Shattered One or Blim, Comedic Genius both want your opponents to control your creatures. If you just want the effect of giving your opponents negative ETBs you can also build a deck on The Beamtown Bullies. But including Endless Whispers in this deck can backfire by giving you one of the negative effects if the creature dies. And it also is hard to let e.g. Leveler enter the battlefield to donate it through endless whispers. What helps with that may be to manifest a creature with a negative effect with e.g. Scroll of Fate. You can also manifest creatures with negative effect from your library but that is a bit more random.
To prevent getting creatures with negative effects from your opponents you to gain hexproof. There are plenty of effects giving yourself hexproof in white but I couldn't find a good commander for that. To gain hexproof yourself in a non white deck you most likely need Orbs of Warding which may be the way to go to prevent opponents to return the hot potato to you. Which is what I do in Obeka (sadly I don't have any list online of that deck).
If you like Endless Whispers to take your opponent cards however you might rather want to play Grave Betrayal or Lim-Dul the Necromancer. Overall it can still be used as a politicle tool. Especially if you donate one of the Haunted once you can build a pact with another player that you always trade them with each other to get more and more tokens.
Talking tokens it is also possible to put Endless Whispers in Grismold, the Dreadsower which gets into the direction of Dagger Burn known through Rampaging Ferocidon, Trespasser's Curse, Massacre Wurm, Slaughter Specialist and e.g. Illness in the Ranks/Virulent Plague. Whenever you donate Hunted Troll to an opponent or it enters the battlefield you let the 1/1 faeris directly die causing Grismold to trigger and also cards like Poison-Tip Archer.
It is also possible to play with effects like Plaguecrafter, Abyssal Gorestalker, Gravelighter. The player who gets the creature has to sacrifice one creature less and choses who sacrifice one creature less the next turn. But as long as you profit from death triggers via e.g. enchantments or artifacts you will profit most from your favourite card.
I also like Rakdos the Defiler to use Endless Whisper. After all one can donate some negative effects and if the opponent sacrifices creatures they have to donate them to someone else. Altough that also works better in 1v1.
I hope the explanation helps to find the right deck to play Endless Whispers in Commander.
MagicMarc on Cards that put creature token …
2 years ago
All the Hunted creatures work like Hunted Dragon, Hunted Horror, Hunted Lammasu, Hunted Phantasm, Hunted Troll. And they get you strong creatures.
seshiro_of_the_orochi on Azorius Forced Combat: Maragar, the …
2 years ago
In the last months, I've become a sucker for forced combat strategies. My Thantis, the Warweaver is a project of love, and I'm currently waiting for the last pieces for Saskia the Unyielding. What I'd like to build though, is an Azorius forced combat deck. I haven't found a fitting commander for that, yet. Pramikon, Sky Rampart is interesting, but feels more fitting for pillowfort. Thus, I've come up with another design for exactly that strategy:
Many forced combat decks already want to give creatures to their opponents. Maragar heavily leans into that, as he can be cast for cheap if our opponents control enough creatures. After that, he basically turns all of our creatures into better Alluring Sirens. In addition, Maragar is a Coastal Piracy for all players that don't hit us, so while he has no actual protection, he'll often stay on the field because he draws all players cards. And players like drawing cards.
Besides lots of tokens to goad opposing creatures, the deck would propably have plenty of cards like Hunted Lammasu, Hunted Phantasm, Akroan Horse and Forbidden Orchard, combining these with some pillowforts a la Propaganda and finishing off with more Coastal Piracy and some Flying Men. Besides combat damage, Approach of the Second Sun seems like a wincon that even works flavourwise: Are your opponents stupid enough to fall for the old "sunlight in the deep sea" trick twice? Well, they deserve to lose.
I'd love to hear your feedback on this card. Would you change anything? Is the mana cost to low or too high? Thanks for your attention.
seshiro_of_the_orochi on Strict Proctor and the Hunted …
2 years ago
I haven't played the deck before. It's usually called Torpornaught (After Torpor Orb and Phyrexian Dreadnought ).
Besides Dreadnoughz, the hunted monsters Hunted Lammasu , Hunted Phantasm , Hunted Horror , Hunted Dragon and Hunted Troll propably are your best best, also Leveler and Eater of Days . If you want to protect the creatures, playing U for counter spells seems good. As Horror is the biggest beater for the least mana, maybe go UB? WUB would also be good if you don't want to spend the money on Orb.
Eloniel on
[Primer] Political Subterfuge - Marchesa Aikido
3 years ago
What about cards that give other player token while giving us some tool for the end game:
And more politics tools:
Manipulation:
I suggested you lot of cards, some that fit aikidos, some control, some politics and some about winning the game.
I thinks some of them at least could be used by this deck or at least why you don't think they would suit this deck :)
Still think this deck should add one or 2 more winning that to rely on opponent creatures or opponent willing to attack you (either spells: Torment of Hailfire , Rolling Earthquake , Molten Disaster , enchantment: Captive Audience or creatures Master of Cruelties , Archfiend of Despair, Virtus the Veiled
Great primer =)
Halflingz on
Queen Marchesa
4 years ago
Board wipes that seem "on theme" and white "ramp" to consider. Kaya's Wrath Fumigate Retaliate Austere Command Decree of Pain Martial Coup Merciless Eviction Descent of Dragons Angel of the Dire Hour Magister of Worth Sunblast Angel Boreas Charger Oreskos Explorer Surveyor's Scope Solemn Simulacrum Sword of the Animist Verge Rangers Smothering Tithe Sword of Feast and Famine Dowsing Dagger Flip
Queen Marchesa doesn't have a clear single way to build so you have lots of options. However, I feel like said you want to play her like the Kween she is and create a royal court full of politicin' and group interaction to make all the boys whine. I don't think you want to discourgage people from taking the monarch from you, more encourage them to swing others IE: NO Ghostly Prisons, YES Teysa effects. Punish the ones who swing you only after the fact and reward the ones who swing others. There is a lot listed!
Politic theme links to Scryfall searches Monarch, Will of the Council, Council's Dilemma, Join Forces, Curses, Tempting offer, Goad
You will also want to get retake the throne each turn and lets face it, the Assasin's won't always get through Dauthi Embrace Dauthi Trapper Nether Shadow Nether Traitor Soltari Visionary Changeling Outcast Tormented Soul Break Through the Line Ferropede Gingerbrute Key to the City Whispersilk Cloak Trailblazer's Boots Zhang He, Wei General Yellow Scarves Cavalry Wei Night Raiders Wei Scout Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed Lu Bu, Master-at-Arms Guan Yu, Sainted Warrior Shadow Alley Denizen
Finally here are some other fun interactions befitting the royal court. Crown of Doom Kor Haven Cathars' Crusade Electropotence + Pandemonium (Nasty with deathtouch) Field of the Dead Mentor of the Meek In the Web of War Mace of the Valiant Ogre Battledriver Orc Sureshot Mathas, Fiend Seeker
Master of Cruelties Anya, Merciless Angel Tree of Perdition Alesha, Who Smiles at Death Ashling, the Extinguisher Azra Oddsmaker Aurification Bloodforged Battle-Axe Contested War Zone Thaumatic Compass
Flip Dread Elbrus, the Binding Blade
Flip Iroas, God of Victory Aurelia, the Warleader Gisela, Blade of Goldnight Five-Alarm Fire Hellrider Hixus, Prison Warden Larceny Necropolis Regent No Mercy Phage the Untouchable Quietus Spike Skeleton Key Throat Slitter Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor Vraska, Scheming Gorgon Scourge of the Throne Akroan Horse Captive Audience Goblin Spymaster Forbidden Orchard Clackbridge Troll Hunted Dragon Hunted Lammasu Hunted Horror
Theme directions to explore?
Lifegain to stay above the swings? Angelic Chorus Answered Prayers Anointer Priest Authority of the Consuls Ayara, First of Locthwain Daxos, Blessed by the Sun Healer of the Pride Impassioned Orator Pious Evangel
Flip Soul's Attendant Soul Warden Archangel of Thune Suture Priest Ajani's Welcome Dawn of Hope Deathgreeter Exquisite Blood Epicure of Blood Falkenrath Noble Karlov of the Ghost Council Noble Purpose Righteous Cause Sanguine Bond Searing Meditation Seraph Sanctuary Serene Steward Shattered Angel Spirit Loop Sun Droplet Vizkopa Guildmage Well of Lost Dreams Alhammarret's Archive Licia, Sanguine Tribune Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim Eternity Vessel Chalice of Life
Flip Resolute Archangel Storm Herd Felidar Sovereign Divinity of Pride Serra Ascendant
Aristocrats of the Court (slow life drain strategy)? Bastion of Remembrance Corpse Knight Impact Tremors Purphoros, God of the Forge Blood Artist Zulaport Cutthroat Outpost Siege Bontu's Monument Brutal Hordechief Campaign of Vengeance Cliffhaven Vampire Cruel Celebrant Kambal, Consul of Allocation Polluted Bonds Retreat to Hagra Vindictive Vampire revenge Sorin, Grim Nemesis Judith, the Scourge Diva Stalking Vengeance Syr Konrad, the Grim
Cipher001 on
A Lullmage's Dream
4 years ago
Flooremoji It's definitely something to consider. While it can be hit with a Naturalize , instant-speed removal is always nice.
Demarge I'll take out the teferis and replace Hunted Lammasu with Forbidden Orchard for now. I need to playtest matchups to see whether I want one bigger threat to be spawned on my opponent's board or multiple small ones while aiding in my mana-fixing. Snapcaster is too good to ignore, added. I don't want to use Path to Exile , since I want the main focus to be about tapping, and I want to be able to milk my opponent's creatures for cards via Verity Circle .
Thanks for your help!