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Artifact Creature — Horse
When Akroan Horse enters the battlefield, an opponent gains control of it.
At the beginning of your upkeep, each opponent creates a 1/1 white Soldier creature token.
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Akroan Horse Discussion
1 week ago
First of all, I have to say that I love the idea of your decklist! Firesong and Sunspeaker are so cool with all those ''board damaging'' spells, it seems really great. :)
But I was wondering... are you ramping quickly enough to be effective in the early/mid (and even consistent in the late) with all your manavorous spells? I think I would definitely cut some of them, the weakest ones, and run a Boros Signet and (if it fits your budget) a Mana Vault. Land Tax is also a nice staple to stabilize your mana pool if you are searching for other options.
Another card you could consider is the The Immortal Sun. You actually don't get a lot of good card advantage in Boros, and this card seems to do everything you need here (and eventually in some situations it slows down your opponents playing superfriends/control/etc. decks).
Chandra, Torch of Defiance is also a nice tool for getting some card advantage / ramp.
Mind's Eye is a nice card to get some card draw.
I don't really know why, maybe it's a fantasy of my greedy mind, but I would give a try to Authority of the Consuls in this deck, alongside some friendly not so friendly tokens generators like Assemble the Legion or Akroan Horse.
I hope this will help you a bit!
1 week ago
Hey skinken, thanks for taking the time to give some good feedback. Tutors are for sure the way to class up the deck, and I used to have a few more than I do now. I've done a bit of tuning since then to keep them to a minimum and really just add room for fun stuff. The tutors I've got are Wild Research, Ring of Three Wishes, and Expedition Map turns into Inventors' Fair. I'll be sure to add Gamble though probably in place of the Ring of Three Wishes because I think that's hilarious and even kinda sums up the deck.
I do agree that it's not always the best idea to have things in your deck that totally cancel other things. The Akroan Horse is pretty mediocre in general and might even be due for a cut, but the Desolation Giant is more of a circumstantial piece. Like if i throw him under a Summoner's Egg, or enchant him with a False Demise and give that away. Torpor Orb is an awesome card and certainly makes a lot of the deck function but I prefer my Hushwing Gryff to him instead since I can control when I want to block with it to get it off the board and do big stuff. Bruna, the Fading Light is actually a cast trigger instead of an ETB but if it wasn't I would totally agree that it's stupid, so thanks for having my back. I avtually Added her and gisela in because I recently broke down a deck that had them in it and I have a fair enough amount of card draw to hopefully make Brisela, Voice of Nightmares happen on occasion
The farie artisians thing is sick though, I'll add a list of dumb funny things that I've been able to pull off like that. I think you'll get a kick out of it.
1 week ago
The idea seems very fun, but with no tutor's pretty inconsistent. Since you are not in green I would suggest running an artifact tutor package to get Torpor Orb. Besides being easier to fetch, being an artifact makes it a lot easier to stick on the board through the many creature board wipes in multiplayer edh. I'm a big fan of Whir of Invention myself, and Fabricate is great too. Although a little more pricey, Gamble is totally worth it too, it even synergizes well with all the draw form. Other options include Hoarding Dragon if you wanna go cheap, or Enlightened Tutor if you want to go expensive. Running artifact tutoring means more Despotic Scepter and hate pieces like Pithing Needle (another favorite of mine, it is SO much better than I first thought)
There are a couple of cards in the deck I don't like as much, mainly because they don't work well with Torpor Orb in play: Akroan Horse, Bruna, the Fading Light and Desolation Giant. Remember that the tokens given to your opponents are not owned by you:
From the Comprehensive Rules (Dominaria (April 27, 2018)) 110.5a A token is both owned and controlled by the player under whose control it entered the battlefield.
Desolation Giant is bad with Torpor Orb as well as without it compared to a card like Phyrexian Rebirth. If you really want the Brisela, Voice of Nightmares, and don't care that you have little to no tutors and a deck that really tries hard to stop the reanimation trigger, I won't be one to stop you, Brizzy is pretty dope ;)
Cool that you are having success with such a wild build though! Hf my guy
3 weeks ago
Seeing as your commander costs so much, I feel like Worn Powerstone might be better than some of the other rocks or rituals you have in here.
Something that came up in discussion on another Kazarov list is that the deck is weak to decks with low creature counts, so adding in a couple ways to give your opponents creatures could be helpful. Dowsing Dagger Flip, Hunted Dragon, Forbidden Orchard, and Akroan Horse are all ideas.
3 weeks ago
I also got rid of the usual Zedruu donation tricks that screw over your opponent, keeping only the Akroan Horse, and of course enchantments/artifacts that affect the whole board. I love donating Torpor Orb to the ETB creature player. Usually I donate tokens though, going for the flavor of making an audience. :)
If you have any good on theme ideas, I'm all ears.
1 month ago
@Rigol We use Opt over Serum Visions because we utilize a very large about of instant speed removal. Often our most efficient option is leave up mana rather than spend it on our main phase, wait for our opponent to play a threat and then answer it. If no threat is played then we can simply opt on their end step and maintain advantage despite not acting during our main phase.
@Catalog9000 At 4 mana Akroan Horse is a truly terrible magic card with virtually no value to our core strategy. We run main board Illness in the Ranks as such all the horse would offer us is one ETB trigger as all the tokens we would get simply die.
1 month ago
Have you considered Akroan Horse? Your opponent gets the 0/4 Defender, but they also auto-generate a 1/1 token during your upkeep. Since it's colorless, you'll find it pretty easy to play.
In a deck like this, you literally have no downside to it. Might be worth building into.
2 months ago
Correction: list of steady 1/1 or 2/2 token creators.
Potentially too slow: Sporemound, Assemble the Legion, Dragonlair Spider, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury, From Beyond, Growing Ranks, Jade Mage, Krenko, Mob Boss, Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage, Goblin Assault, Goblin Rabblemaster, Mycologist, Pallid Mycoderm, Psychotrope Thallid, Rhys the Redeemed, Savage Thallid, anything that starts with Thallid- really, look it up, there are like 7, Verdant Force.
Not enough?: Attended Knight, Emeria Angel (only 30 lands!?), Entrapment Maneuver (it'll fuck up voltron's day), Fungal Sprouting, Greener Pastures (if you get more lands), Queen's Commission, Raise the Alarm, Servo Exhibition, Spectral Procession.
Just awesome: Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Hanweir Garrison, Hero of Bladehold, Martial Coup, Nomads' Assembly, Oketra the True, Sacred Mesa, Sundering Growth, Tempt with Vengeance, Tilonalli's Summoner, Trostani, Selesnya's Voice, Elemental Mastery (suddenly your big stuff is unblockable, too!), Living Hive, Promise of Bunrei, Secure the Wastes, Sporesower Thallid, Sporoloth Ancient, Sram's Expertise, Stonybrook Schoolmaster, Symbiotic Wurm, Wolfcaller's Howl.