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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Inverter of Truth
Creature — Eldrazi
Devoid (This card has no colour.)
Flying
When Inverter of Truth enters the battlefield, exile all cards from your library face down, then shuffle all cards from your graveyard into your library.
Mave on
endles whispers edh
5 months ago
I read the thread when I tried to look up the rules for the cards which is kinda important for EDH Endless Whispers. (I plan on including it in Obeka)
In a 1v1 match it mostly tries to get the best creature of an opponent while donating negative effects. But in commander it becomes a game of "hot potato" where you can never be sure who gets the creatures of another player but you can decide what "garbage" you donate. That is the gist of what the deck will do in a multiplayer game.
Depending on what you give away you may want cards that can counter triggered abilities in case ove Leveler, Sky Swallower, Boldwyr Heavyweights, Eater of Days, Hunted Wumpus, Inverter of Truth, Dust Elemental, Avatar of Discord, Indentured Djinn Ebon Drake Plague Reaver Master of the Feast Tempting Wurm, the haunted one like Hunted Troll, Hunted Dragon,Hunted Dragon, Hunted Lammasu or Hunted Phantasm. Personally I would use Obeka, Brute Chronologist to counter the ETB of the creatures you play by ending the turn and then giving them to an opponent. But that only works for when the creature with negative effect enters the battlefield during your turn. But it is a great plan B in case you don't have Endless Whispers to give your opponents creatures from the list above by simply playing an 8/8 trample for then ending the turn before the trigger resolves.
Other options are Jon Irenicus, Shattered One or Blim, Comedic Genius both want your opponents to control your creatures. If you just want the effect of giving your opponents negative ETBs you can also build a deck on The Beamtown Bullies. But including Endless Whispers in this deck can backfire by giving you one of the negative effects if the creature dies. And it also is hard to let e.g. Leveler enter the battlefield to donate it through endless whispers. What helps with that may be to manifest a creature with a negative effect with e.g. Scroll of Fate. You can also manifest creatures with negative effect from your library but that is a bit more random.
To prevent getting creatures with negative effects from your opponents you to gain hexproof. There are plenty of effects giving yourself hexproof in white but I couldn't find a good commander for that. To gain hexproof yourself in a non white deck you most likely need Orbs of Warding which may be the way to go to prevent opponents to return the hot potato to you. Which is what I do in Obeka (sadly I don't have any list online of that deck).
If you like Endless Whispers to take your opponent cards however you might rather want to play Grave Betrayal or Lim-Dul the Necromancer. Overall it can still be used as a politicle tool. Especially if you donate one of the Haunted once you can build a pact with another player that you always trade them with each other to get more and more tokens.
Talking tokens it is also possible to put Endless Whispers in Grismold, the Dreadsower which gets into the direction of Dagger Burn known through Rampaging Ferocidon, Trespasser's Curse, Massacre Wurm, Slaughter Specialist and e.g. Illness in the Ranks/Virulent Plague. Whenever you donate Hunted Troll to an opponent or it enters the battlefield you let the 1/1 faeris directly die causing Grismold to trigger and also cards like Poison-Tip Archer.
It is also possible to play with effects like Plaguecrafter, Abyssal Gorestalker, Gravelighter. The player who gets the creature has to sacrifice one creature less and choses who sacrifice one creature less the next turn. But as long as you profit from death triggers via e.g. enchantments or artifacts you will profit most from your favourite card.
I also like Rakdos the Defiler to use Endless Whisper. After all one can donate some negative effects and if the opponent sacrifices creatures they have to donate them to someone else. Altough that also works better in 1v1.
I hope the explanation helps to find the right deck to play Endless Whispers in Commander.
plakjekaas on Inverter of Truth Targeting
2 years ago
You cannot. A target that can be changed with Bolt Bend, will always be specified as "target Creature/Player/Opponent/etc.". If the word "target" is not on the card, Bolt Bend can not change it. In the case of Inverter of Truth, it specifically mentions "your library" and not "target player's library". "Your library" on a card always means the person who controlled the spell / controlled the creature when it entered the battlefield and created the trigger.
itsbuzzi on Official missing/incorrect card/token thread
3 years ago
Hello, I noticed that Walking Ballista shows up incorrectly under Pioneer decks as it's banned in that format but Tappedout doesn't acknowledge that. This was from a ban announcement in August 3rd when Inverter of Truth , Underworld Breach and Kethis, the Hidden Hand was also banned so they may not show up correctly as well. Thanks.
9-lives on
3 years ago
Thank you for your help regardless, TriusMalarky! <3
legendofa I am trying to gather wincons haha! I said in the deck help post on pioneer and in my deck description " I want to play huge cards with Lotus Field combo. Pick what I want with Wishclaw Talisman. Have like 1x each one."
And I never said I was experienced with competitive play. I was being sarcastic when I said 'trillions' haha. In fact, if I were, I would have used my old deck called 'Sadomasochistic Thirst of Libraries' way back before Inverter of Truth was not banned. I was one of the first to start using Inverter of Truth for a mill wincon. It was an absolutely amazing deck and I'm mad at myself for deleting it, as it had like 4 mill wincon combos of self and other mill, and it all meshed together very well.
I am certainly not a competitive player, as I haven't played enough games to be really 'seasoned'. I plan on trying out my decks in MTGA when it releases Pioneer. That way I can play my decks without having to spend money on cards. And about competitiveness, my cats deck has won almost every game it has been in, but I haven't played Friday Magic with it at my local comic books shop, especially now with the COVID business.
Felidae Cult
Pioneer*
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Grind on
Gigan is Comboing Now
3 years ago
Cool deck!
I dont think
Inverter of Truth
puts your library in the graveyard so idk if that interaction works like you thought...
iiDevilclown on
Ad Nauseam *Post SSG Ban*
3 years ago
What if we added Inverter of Truth s? Similar to the banned pioneer deck.
channelfireball12345 on Card creation challenge
3 years ago
Grasp the Void
Instant
Look at the top x cards of your library, where x is one plus the number of cards you own in exile. Put one of them into your hand. Then, either put the rest back on top of your library in any order, or exile the rest.
Might have some weird busted interaction with cards that manipulate your library and/or exile like Inverter of Truth, IDK. Inverter is already broken with certain things though. Seems cool with wraths that exile stuff, such as Merciless Eviction.
For the next challenge, create another card with in its mana cost that is not flavorfully or mechanically tied directly to the Eldrazi. Let's give its own slice of the color pie! Bonus points if you make it a 'multi-color' card, with both and another color of mana (not generic) in the mana cost.
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