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Inverter of Truth
Creature — Eldrazi
Devoid (This card has no colour.)
When Inverter of Truth enters the battlefield, exile all cards from your library face down, then shuffle all cards from your graveyard into your library.
Inverter of Truth Discussion
1 month ago
@SP3CTR3_chelts: Ironically, that was the Working Title. Which leaves us to Two possible choices left; We got Aurelia, the Warleader , or even Feather . Ironic, considering Feather herself was exiled by Aurelia, only to be freed by a certain Krenko . I dunno how she survived that, But Razia was part of the Working Title; As she was a Parun; & the oldest Boros Legion Ravnican on Record. I also had Pierakor az Vinrenn D'rav (Yes, that's her true name.) an another option, As Aurelia is one of Feather's Creations; ultimately overthrowing her, & imprisoning Feather from there. Aurelia would've been good, but ol' Pierakor az Vinrenn D'rav created her, & even Agrus Kos was Feather's partner, & Agrus was murdered. Since Aurelia is an Overthrowing Byproduct by Feather, I'd hope such a name like: "Pierakor az Vinrenn D'rav's Parhelion △ Legion of the Damned" But the name is too long for cEDH Boros Community Deck Standards; much less any Deck Name Standard anyway. DX But, yeah. Only 2 Paruns are still standing; Rakdos , & Azor I ; actually, there are 3. But Niv-Mizzet is the one true Living Guildpact.
However, in the case of a cEDH Boros Community Deck; I'd have to go for Feather on this one; She created Aurelia; & she forced her out of the Guild for awhile...
For Inverter of Truth : I disregarded the whole idea after all that. Given how much I have, the only problem w/ running a The First Sliv deck in this case is: What do you think would be worth cutting for actual lands? I'm estimating on 36 for now; but what to cut is a question of high difficulty in itself. Also, I actually didn't want this as cEDH Material. Just an experiment to see if it works; Commander/EDH doesn't allow Sideboards, so stuff that can be Obtained from outside the game are useless. On the Topic of Commander; any updates on the Banlist?; What was cut that I actually had wool in my eyes for?
Huh. Never would've thought of those (The lands, I mean. Same for Glaring Spotlight .); how's Rampaging Ferocidon ? I also wish Red had better anti-lifegain against opponents; Tibalt, Rakish Instigator doesn't seem enough on this... & what's more ironic? I barely have a good way at all to do Politics: the Game; & if anyone want to enlist my help, why is it that in today's societies, the hardest word in the English Dictionary in everyday speak is just a coldhearted "NO."
"This is a Competition. I mean, this isn't about other people, it's about YOU! What the F--- is wrong with you?!" -Big Fazeek; The Tester Season II (One of the eliminated competitiors eliminated just for being thrown under the bus; even by his teammates after a Team Challenge He & the others won. A textbook example on how NOT to judge during an Elimination.)
Huh... Okay. I'll resume the Omnath crap. Though I dunno how far I can go w/o going below such ideas. But wait: Omnath, Locus of Mana allows you to keep your Mana Accumulated. Why can't Kruphix, God of Horizons do the same for ?
Well, thanks for the help though. I'm actually planning out a literal Color OC Planeswalker; though she's not the usual kind of character of Boros Personality though... So she would be more like the kinds of Boros Decks that have strategic ways; cEDH style instead of being a Chaotic, Vengeful being like Nahiri for instance. I'll leave it here now. Thanks. I'll see if these work...
1 month ago
@austintayshus: Thanks for the ideas! Just to note, this is a deck using cards that Exile Themselves; only to be recurred from that Zone. Though my big problem now is; how to use ETB Triggers w/ Torpor Orb & even Hushwing Gryff in play, despite not wanting to do so w/ Inverter of Truth , Eater of Days , or even Leveler triggering their own? Quite a Calamity in this case... I'll ponder about this, since I just started just last night w/ an Upgraded Account...
1 month ago
Commander / EDH*
Yep, an "Exile Matters" Deck; though I think I went too far in this case. Stuff like Food Chain are in for stuff like Squee, the Immortal , Misthollow Griffin , & Eternal Scourge to fuel the mana, but I can't find enough stuff that exiles themselves to be reused. Basically, if the card says "Exile (Card Name with this Ability)" on the text, tell me why it needs to be there. Recently, Someone actually decided to use Manifest/Morph/Megamorph effects here for the sake of Inverter of Truth . I also have stuff like Eater of Days , & Leveler ; basically, stuff requiring ETB activations as drawbacks. Even worse, Riftsweeper is an ETB creature requiring this kind of ability; so stuff w/ "Creatures entering the battlefield don’t cause abilities to trigger." like Torpor Orb , Hushwing Gryff , & even Tocatli Honor Guard can't be used. Which is ironic as one theme of my Kykar, Wind's Fury Vorthos Deck is just doing anti-meta; so she can even say "NO" to ETB Triggers. I hope you can understand this BTW.
I need help finging more Cards that Self-Exiles itself to be used again.
Awesome amounts of power, but it also negates everything else when using Anti ETB stuff like Torpor Orb & Hushwing Gryff . Any possible way I can still do ETB effects besides the ones that ends games for me VERY FAST, & prevent any opponent do the same?
Thanks for the help if you wish; I'm quite in a bind right now...
1 month ago
BUMPILIUMCIOUS BARS FOR ALL!!!
Chose Omnath as my CMDR in an Anti-Meta Mono Color Deck. Even the description states 4 individuals (Me, & 3 of my Fan-Made Post-Mending Era Walkers.). Also, since you stated that nothing is known about what happened at a time of Chaos before Pre-Guildpact Beta Era Ravnica. Really makes me wish all 10 Guilds can coexist with another; but because of color difference, this is never possible even Post-WAR. So, yeah, I have a name for my cEDH Boros Community Deck after all this: "Razia's Parhelion II △ Legion of the Damned." Oh, & as I said earlier, Suns_Champion is also allowed to join despite not knowing cEDH that well; but is a very great Guru on this subject matter. So close enough.
I still haven't found one resourceful enough about the feedback part of the Competitive Gauge. Any ideas? Also, how does Inverter of Truth work w/ Manifesting, Morphing, & Megamorphing, when the first former exiles a whole library face down? That is out of reach for Manifests! Is it truly worth adding after all this?
Finally, one last plan: Outside my Kykar, Wind's Fury Vorthos Deck, I've one other thing to do: A literal Mono- Burn/Red Deck Wins deck where scorching is the name of the game; & when stuff like The Wanderer (SPOILER: Sarkhan Vol knows her back at one time.) w/ her ability to prevent noncreature damage to them, Stuff giving you (As an opponent), & even enemy permanents Hexproof; potentially retiring Shroud as a Keyword forever. I just need ideas to bypass Target Protection, & even ways to bypass ol' Wanderer-dono's noncreature damage immunity. I'll start development as I finish both my Exiles Matter Deck, & Mono- Deck. Though I'd like it if I can find a use for Inverter of Truth ; Maybe MTGGoldfish had something like that; it was an Against the Odds Deck. Ah well, better than Tibalt #1 as everyone would say...
Thanks for the update reading; I hope I didn't tick you off or something...
UPDATE: Now the situation escalades: I found some stuff for Inverter of Truth ; but does even one card exist to negate only ETB Triggers I have that can be negated? I got Inverter of Truth , Eater of Days , Leveler , Hunted Horror , & Dust Elemental ? Even if one of this even exists, AT ALL, I'd be more than happy to try & get a copy; you know, selective ETB Trigger Negation? Ah whatever, I can't even find something close to that... DX
1 month ago
@SP3CTR3_chelts: I guess I could go & mention a whole Alternate Philosophy in my honest opinion/perspective, but, yeah. That's what it will only be: My Opinions.
Huh. So, other groups did exist, but most likely perished during an age of chaos; leaving only 10 2 color Guilds? Huh. I suppose since no proof of Ravnica's Most Distant Past existed; I guess for the cEDH Boros Community Deck, I should do Razia after all? She was the Boros Legion's Parun you know.
As for Inverter of Truth , & Manifest effects, which cards would you think would go well w/ the Manifest/Morph/Megamorph subtheme alongside aforementioned Eldrazi?
Do you know anyone that may have a decent answer about the feedback part of the Competitive Gauge? I'd like tosubmit my opinion on what could've been better...
Finally, I guess I could use Omnath, Locus of Mana for now; just don't expect that many elves though...
1 month ago
@SP3CTR3_chelts: Hmm... That could be a good use of a Filler for now. Now for why I threw those things in there: Mox Amber is based upon real-life amber; Fossilized Tree Resin; some even include some kind of prehistoric creature w/ it's form still intact; though I completely understand why WotC wanted to do it this way; it is well cherished by those who collect jewelry. Also, Yes, I understand Nurturing Peatland is a Land, but the philosophy behind it just might work still: Peat is decayed plant matter; dead, but still friendly nevertheless. Regardless, it can even be used in a process that can take several thousand years or more to evolve to a stone-like mass (Given no fire occurs during that time.) after all this time. Both of these kinds of process' involves an idea of Evolution; a concept of PROGRESS; isn't the only one w/ that luxury. As for fliers, Birds of Paradise has actual Bird Wings, & can produce mana In a pinch. Also, Destructor Dragon hates anyone w/ even an Arrowhead. You think you can kill a dragon w/ this kind of weapon? All it's going to do is get pissed off, & kill you as the "Reach" User instead. Ironic, since this Dragon serves Dragonlord Atarka ; which is even MORE ironic as Temur in the Current Timeline has basically the exact same Watermark Base; but the most ironic part of all is that Omnath, Locus of the Roil IS now! I don't think I can put a number on that any further! DX
Moving on: How the heck can a card even exist for Manifest when Inverter of Truth just straight out exiles your library FACE-DOWN, & replaces it w/ a Graveyard this deck doesn't truly need (It is Exile Zone Dependent.). But, you might be on to something though; but how the heck can I even force a whole Exile Zone that's face-down, to Face up? I'm actually interested about these kinds of notions...
I guess what you're saying is that in recorded MTG Multiverse history, even when there was only nature & no city at all, The Ten Paruns of the Original Guildpact was the only root of such history? Honestly, I wonder if there are 10 before the Original Guildpact was even a thought yet. In case there is no such idea, Razia will be a part of the cEDH Boros Community Deck's name.
I was, uh, referring to the Feedback part; I, mean, my "Obsessive Moaning" brought this to fruition. Any idea on that?
Finally, don't worry, you're not missing out on anything at all now; the current saga ruined itself w/ a feature Beys had in place of a sleepout; which at least gave the benefit of the doubt; not so when your bey just separates into the very parts the bey was built upon in the first place. I miss the benefit of the doubt; & a protagonist w/ Left Spin; not a villain w/ Left Spin. It doesn't matter anyway; the show sucks now, & even TAKARA TOMY needs to have a letter written to them about how such a new feature ruined the franchise for life.
I'll shut it about Beyblade though. I think I said enough anyway...
1 month ago
Temporal Manipulation : A functional reprint of Time Warp; officially left the reserved list via ULTIMATE MASTERS as a Mythic Rare.
Savor the Moment : Inexpensive, but w/ the drawback of not being able to untap anything.
Timestream Navigator : Same cost as Time Walk , but requires her to be put on the bottom of the library for an extra turn; & that requires 10 Nontoken Permanents in play under your control. It's unknown how this deck can retrieve her for infinite extra turns.
Lighthouse Chronologist : A Level-Up Creature that when reaching Lv. 7; requiring 7 , allows an Extra Turn in between your opponents turns.
That's what I could find for good options...
Now for the rest:
Dang, poor Yanling isn't doing so well... Maybe the Starting 2 Loyalty DOES hurt?
Right landbase, huh... I think my Landbase may be such an example; I, mean, the list so far has Golos, Tireless Pilgrim , & Crucible of Worlds . I think the question after that is the last question about Wrenn and Six ; but not only is it the hardest to answer, but it involves the Instants & Sorceries having Retrace as an Emblem. Well, at least we have a 2CMC Walker that is great after the hell Tibalt went through until WAR; where he was improved just a little bit; but for the Half Devil, that's a Thumbsupsky enough.
Heh... I figured as much about Xenagos. Now I might be learning something...
Well, at least one Walker with a Starting Loyalty of 2 is to be added...
I know my center color is infamous as a gambling color, but I'm taking my chances on this.
Well, I will say this, I really appreciate all the help I could about this. But if I had one thing to say, it's...:
(Huh... Now I think about it, I think I might actually have learned something. But how can I even learn that very thing if I'm DEAD?!)
Well, I'm actually not dead; just a failed attempt to reference Scott Pilgrim (The Movie, obviously. Though it's a World of Sin that I'm the only Atoner who hates Wallace Wells; Bad art (Graphic Novels.). Bad personality (Both.). He isn't even good as anything. Sorry, but if I had a gripe about the film, Knives' Dad was mentioned, but never shown; & he is an absolute badass.)
No really though, this is going to sound really stupid, but as I'm making a Human Tribal deck as we speak, other plans are still imprinted in my head:
Is there a place anywhere in Commander for Inverter of Truth ? MTG Goldfish even stated this card as "Against all Odds" material, & has an episode about a deck tech about this.
It's quite ironic nobody wants to see a Mono- deck w/ elements outside of that of itself. We got Vivien's Arkbow , Tree of Tales , even Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger stated Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur is nothing but a dumbass on all regards stating Nature is the prime winner; BUT STILL MADE ARTIFACT CREATURES in w/ quotes by him. Such hypocrisy from a Praetor that Nature is superior to actual though of mind, & INVENTED his own creatures! & this is before KALADESH! While we're at this, there even is Birthing Pod ; another Artifact. I actually have plans to make an anti- Mono- deck. I know everyone wants to say no, but after the accordion crap earlier on, I think it's time to settle the debate: Birds of Paradise to anyone w/ Reach (Spiders must die.). Philosophy of Nature to Philosophy of Evolution (Also Mono- possible, so it does work.), Impurity Killers to even what Thrun, the Last Troll , who is very supportive of the idea of artifice in spite of his Mono- status, as well as his kind driven to extinction. I'll proceed by the time I'm finished w/ my The Red Pill Vorthos Deck.
Sorry about all that. I've so many ideas, it's criminal. Well thanks for all you could; I'm guessing Inverter of Truth won't work in a The First Sliv deck about Casting Self-Exile Spells, while retrieving them back just as easily, are there any cards that can just retrieve Exiled cards FACE-DOWN (Face-Down being the key term; normally Exiled cards are face-up.)? If not, could it still work? I'll keep the Devoid Eldrazi in the Maybeboard until further notice. Well, I'll end this soon enough; but the other 2 projects are literally in my path currently; & wow. How I wasn't working on cEDH Boros after a second cEDH project in the works; sadly, I'm no Limited Edition ALPHA player, so to those that require expensive stuff, why? & are there any conventional reprints that do just as well?
Well, as Gene Wilder would say: Adieu. Adieu. Parting is such sweet sorrow.
2 months ago
Okay, i found a few things i'd take out:
- Endless Atlas Black has way better options to draw cards.
- Underworld Connections Is funny, as you can enchant your opponents lands, but i don't think that was the plan here. Generally slows you down by 1 mana when used, which is bad, even with untapping effects, it's still not good.
- Arguel's Blood Fast Flip This also slows you down a lot and pays off way too late.
- Dark Prophecy Your opponents can pretty much always see this coming, and it relies on a setup.
- Priest of Forgotten Gods Also slow and relying on a dozen conditions, is a creature though.
- The Elderspell You're not running PWs, so you can't fully make use of it's effects.
- Abhorrent Overlord Sadly it's not devotion for colorless :(
- Inverter of Truth I know this guy's an eldrazi, but this is sort of anti-synergetic with your deck.
Here's the cards i'd take in.
This is some of the best carddraw black has to offer and in the entire game, makes your deck faster and more consistent in getting these eldrazi running:
- Night's Whisper , Ancient Craving , Sign in Blood , Ambition's Cost , Ancient Craving , Read the Bones , Wretched Confluence
Depending on your playgroup and since you mentioned liking long games, here's a favorite when you've got trouble dealing with that combo.deck:
Hope that helped ;)
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