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Mathas, Fiend Seeker
Legendary Creature — Vampire
Menace At the beginning of your end step, put a bounty counter on target creature an opponent controls. For as long as that creature has a bounty counter on it, it has "When this creature dies, each opponent draws a card and gains 2 life."
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Mathas, Fiend Seeker Discussion
1 week ago
@AlwaysSleepy: Thanks. Based on such a combo, I guess the only replacing card I'd use to replace Night's Whisper is either Tormenting Voice or even Wild Guess ? All three have a CMC of 2, or am I missing out on something? I'll have to check to comment to be sure...
Hmmm... it seems as if both replacements just require a single discard from the hand, & the rest is in the clear; much like how Night's Whisper works for this combo. Might as well have an extra card to discard for either Rummaging Replacement. So, yeah. Thanks very much, sir; after a lot of such I've been through; I think it's about time I start my Mardu deck project. But what the heck to use as a CMDR of such design? Queen Marchesa is good, but not what I'm looking for. Zurgo Helmsmasher is ridiculous on its own, but still not what to use as Voltron (Not what I want.), Oros, the Avenger ? nope. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls ? Chaos (This really deserves a symbol here for commenting, & other things of the like. Same for the Planeswalker Symbol on the Same Planar Die.) so far is too hard to control, & is potentially better off as something else entirely that's NOT Angel Tribal. Kaalia of the Vast is more akin to Mayael the Anima as they tutor for very powerful creatures w/ crazy effects. Not much closer. Not going to allow anymore Partner duos. Ol' Edgar Markov means a no can do for me; Eminence was never going to last long enough anyway. Licia, Sanguine Tribune just wants to feast on blood at an extremely huge mana cost, but this deck has little to nothing about life gain. One option remains: Mathas, Fiend Seeker . I wonder how he can truly work... Thanks again! ^_^
3 weeks ago
First off I just feel I should point this out... Edgar Markov is banned as commander in 1v1 and for good reason. I've playtested my decks versus my edgar vampire deck and its pretty much draw a boardwipe or bust. Very unfun. I'd suggest you ask your friend to swap it for some other legendary in the same colors like Mathas, Fiend Seeker and keep markov in the 99, if its just the 2 of you. It will make more exciting gameplay in my opinion.
Second, Spine of Ish Sah is a very good removal in a Saheeli deck as it can be cast for 0 and destroys any permanent which in these colors can be hard. I'd also keep Hour of Devastation I really like it, it is reasonably costed, hits planeswalkers and it has Nicky B in the art so that a win in my book (lul). I'd only replace it with Cyclonic Rift if budget allows it.
Tamiyo's Journal on the other hand feels a bit off in this type of deck. Since the tokens are of almost no use to you and 3 turns for tutor is too slow, I'd cut it for Treasure Mage or Mystical Tutor to get a needed spell on demand.
I'd suggest Mycosynth Lattice as it is nice synergy with your commander. If you feel friends are overrated add Vandalblast to destroy all permanents opponents control, or mass land destruction like someone above me suggested. Obliterate is my personal go to as it can't be countered. Everyone loses everything, but you still have Saheeli.
Hope this helps, cheers!
1 month ago
@SynergyBuild: Lulz. Never thought I'm saying this, after I found how a damned Accordion works here, I had to decide to do something like this as a Wincon in (Mardu). Though what CMDR to use is something I still dunno… Not Counting Mayael variants Kaalia of the Vast , or Aggro Zurgo Helmsmasher , Vamps w/ no support for this (Any Mardu CMDR of C17's Vampire Tribal.), Weenies Alesha, Who Smiles at Death , much less Aikido Queen Marchesa . Same also goes for Partner CMDRS. One Wincon in question allows Doomsday , but I wanted an all Package. I wonder what I can use for this; as I've little options; maybe Mathas, Fiend Seeker could be good? Tariel, Reckoner of Souls ? I doubt Oros, the Avenger will do anything... Ideas?
1 month ago
This deck actually started with a lot of commanders, chiri. Thantis, the Warweaver and Gahiji, Honored One were two big ones, but Mathas, Fiend Seeker , Queen Marchesa , Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire , Selvala, Explorer Returned , and perhaps my favorite (mostly because he's such an underrated political piece) Zurgo Helmsmasher are all incredibly fearsome and piles of fun. Not only that, but after the attacks are forced, Tariel, Reckoner of Souls is a very neat fella to toy around with.
1 month ago
The issue is not Mathas' bounty counters being "unique", but rather that the death trigger is tied to "that" particular creature. It's one of those instances where a single word in an ability makes a drastic difference in its effect.
1 month ago
The bounty counters placed by Mathas, Fiend Seeker are identical to those placed by Bounty Hunter , in the same way that +1/+1 counters placed by two different sources are the same as each other. If Mathas, Fiend Seeker places a bounty counter on a creature, Bounty Hunter can destroy that creature (assuming it isn't indestructible or otherwise has some form of protection).
1 month ago
I want to know if Bounty Hunter would have ANY use in an EDH deck commanded by Mathas, Fiend Seeker . Because I know the rulings for Mathas say only specifically his bounty counters give creatures the triggered ability. But can Bounty Hunter at least destroy creatures that are given bounty counters from Mathas, or are his bounty counters unique like those given by Mathas, Fiend Seeker ?
2 months ago
The_Fallen_Duke, thanks for the advice! Curses are the primary focus, although the deck is less about politics and more about bleeding out opponents while preventing them from hurting me. Effects like Ghostly Prison neutralize go-wide and token strategies, while the more Stax-y sacrifice effects take out large, individual creatures.
Assemble the Legion gets much, much stronger as the game goes on, and this deck very much wants to drag the game out. Mogis, God of Slaughter fills the role of a big, dumb creature that drains my opponents' life and denies them creatures. Bounty Hunter actually combos with Hunter of Eyeblights , Kulrath Knight , and Mathas, Fiend Seeker himself, who uses the same kind of counter. There's also some other cards that fit into this sub-theme, like Orzhov Advokist and Curse of Stalked Prey . Since the deck is focused on draining life from my opponents, any form of repeatable lifegain puts me at a disadvantage. Tainted Remedy pretty conclusively deals with that.
Of course, even if those are my reasons for putting these cards in, there's no guarantee that doing so actually works in the long run. I'll definitely look at cutting out some of the less useful removal.
Mathas, Fiend Seeker occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%