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Shadow Alley Denizen
Creature — Vampire Rogue
Whenever another creature enters the battlefield under your control, target creature gains intimidate until end of turn. (It can't be blocked except by artifact creatures and/or creatures that share a color with it.)
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Shadow Alley Denizen Discussion
5 hours ago
Shane Since I don't actually have 4x Shadow Alley Denizen somehow, I've actually been using Guul Draz Vampire in their place and it's gone super well. I may just end up doing a 2 and 2 split. I've played with Lacerator before but I just don't like the card. I prefer cards with interesting effects and the other two fit a bit better that way.
As I primarily played in the Zendikar era I love Gatekeeper and Highborn. I prefer to have Bloodchief Ascension in the deck for a similar effect to Kalastria. Gatekeeper is one of my old favorites and will always consider it for a spot in the deck when I want to make changes.
1 week ago
Wadap storm, thank you for the reply!
I thought very long about including Exquisite Blood. Its beyond powerful but I just dont like using it. Its another 5 drop doesnt do anything to the board state or help your vamps and is basically only used for the infinite combo.
As for Gifted Aetherborn, its an amazing card. Little hard to play on turn 2 because of the double black. I dont think I got room for him since im happy with how my 2drops are atm.
I can't wait to use Shadow Alley Denizen. It comes with a 1/1 vampire and every vampire you play nets you a free black 1/1 vampire, so thats even more intimidate triggers.
2 weeks ago
Thank you for your suggestions Acerola! I have indeed considered most of them, but decided to go with a lower mana curve, since waiting too long to build my army was one of the things that the original deck struggled with. Also I should have mentioned Budget, you were right to assume that in the end.
1 drops... The reason why I chose Shadow Alley Denizen and Falkenrath Gorger as my 1 drops is their amazing synergy with Call the Bloodline. At least one creature will be able to swing at my opponents lifepoints every turn (unless he/she plays black or artifacts of course...) and the Gorger makes sure that I can always abuse the discard mechanic. The Neonate seems just a little weaker then the other 1 drops. I like the idea of sacrificing during combat, but he would only be a valuable sac, if I had something to abuse the discard effect with plus the mana to use it at that very moment. The Assassin seems tempting, but it would be a big mana sink and I would get mad when someone takes him down after he goes lvl 3. The Indulgent Aristocrat is a new card for me and it seems pretty awesome! It has amazing synergy with Blade of the Bloodchief. Also provides a great combat trick, in case one of my vampires dies anyway and I have recursion in the deck, so that is covered as well.
2 drops... Bloodghast is super powerful, but I would want him a couple of times for consistency and that playset could buy me a whole new deck to play around with :-/. Gifted Aetherborn is pretty much a Vampire Nighthawk without wings, and since I don't have Nocturnus, i'd rather play the latter. Gatekeeper of Malakir is great, but again, I fear losing the speed advantage due to my lack of a proper landbase. If I hat fetches and proper dual lands to ensure having 3 black mana on turn 3, without missing red, he would be an auto include. For now i will avoid him for the reason I mentioned above.
3 drops... This is a tough one. Captivating Vampire is great, but again eats $$$ while i feel like there are superior lords for vampires. His control ability is pretty amazing though. The legendaries are a bit tricky in my meta. I have played Olivia Voldaren for a long time and she has always caught instant attention. I fear that the same might happen again. The mobilized version of Olivia would be my favorite of the bunch, because haste.
4 drops... I based this whole deck around the idea of being able to use Call the Bloodline every turn and getting synergy out of it. This means that I try to use discard-madness every round, but also that I have to pay one extra colorless for everything I want to cast. Therefore using something that will effectively cost me 5 mana seems risky. Nocturnus is probably my favorite vampire lord, but I will have to avoid him. The one that sticks out is Bloodhall Priest. Madness for 3 makes her a 4 and the Shock is always nice and will pretty much always happen.
Lands... Dragonskull Summit would indeed be the ideal first step in a better land base.
Again, thank you a lot for these suggestions!
1 month ago
Gonna go out on a limb and say Liliana of the Veil is just going to be an expensive Doom Blade most of the time due to her not getting her ult off. And without even having Red Madness Vampires or a few grave-based cards (Excluding Driver of the Dead) to take advantage of her +1 Discard effect, it could be hard to even get her to 6 Loyalty without her being targeted. I'd also look at some 1 drops like Guul Draz Vampire, Pulse Tracker, and/or Shadow Alley Denizen so you can have some immediate pressure (Excluding Thoughtseize).
If you really want to include a Planeswalker though, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip/Liliana, Defiant Necromancer Flip or Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath might be good includes. On flip, Liliana gives you a zombie token and her -X ability can return a desired creature back to the field first turn (Plus she can be flipped by any way your creature dies, so sac away). Ob Nixilis -3 can summon a 5/5 flying demon when he comes out, at only the cost of 2 life. These give different effects though, whereas Liliana of the Veil fits a very specific niche of sacriifcing getting around specific abilities and isn't always important. not to mention if they have multiple creatures they can just sac the least important one.
2 months ago
ah! maybe you understood me wrong. i don't wanted to be rude ore telling you what you have to do! i just wanted to say what i noticed about your deck =)
now i will test your vampire deck against mine =)
you can check out my vampire deck here on "tappedout" if you want =)
2 months ago
A great budget vampire tribal. I have created something similar for casual play, but two cards I really like are Feast of Blood, which is a great removal spell that also fits your theme of healing, and Shadow Alley Denizen. She is a great one drop that makes can make your bigger creatures unblockable. Overall great deck especially for budget.
3 months ago
Yo. I have some feedback for you.
First, I think the deck will run. It has an incredible curve! It will be fast and effective. There are some creatures that I feel were only in the deck because they are vampires. Falkenrath Marauders for examples is one that you will be forced to repeatedly attack with it just to get it to be worth having. The mana investment is high and it is easily removed. Guul Draz Overseer has a decent effect, but requires land drops; it is not bad, but it will not make huge and lasting impacts based on you not being able to produce a mass quantity of tokens. As we have discussed, it will be a resilient deck that works best through consistency and survivability. Mirri the Cursed is a good vampire, but it is not very tribal; it does not help other creatures, but is also not a big enough splash to warrant inclusion. I think that Shadow Alley Denizen would be better replaced with an enchantment that gives some evasion to your creatures rather than granting one creatures intimidate.
Other things that I think would benefit the deck are an increase in tutor quantity. At any given time, there will be at least one vampire that you want but do not have. I love the destructive instant and sorcery lists. The deck would benefit from more draw. I see that you have a good amount, but more will always be better- especially with the undertone of discard involved with the deck.
The last thing that the deck is missing (for me at least) is the presence of something big and splashy. I'm not sure what the deck could use, but something. If nothing else, getting your creatures double strike would be great.