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Chalice of Death
: Target player loses 5 life.
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Chalice of Death Discussion
1 month ago
While it would be totally possible to play Rishkar, Peema Renegade, I would stay away from it for a few reasons,
Variance: Given that this deck already needs a certain handful of cards in order to combo off, you are just making the deck more janky and less consistent, as most decks in modern can easily deal with Rishkar and creatures like him, since decks like Affinity are rampaging across the format. In addition, the usage of non-mana dork creatures only increases the chance that you will not be able to combo off as fast or at all in certain situations, and I don't think Rishkar has enough value to be played in this deck.
Rishkar's cmc is 3, which means that instead of comboing off, you've instead decided to play a 2/2 (or 3/3) and thats about it, if anything, more tutors/card filtering is what I would look towards, as the combo is fun and all, but if you don't start with it, it seems that you'll have trouble getting all the pieces for it.
If you were going after 3 drops, the only real efficient 3 drops to play with this kind of deck strategy would be to play cards like Ensnaring Bridge, as it can be a total blowout for aggro.
Since you are building a scepter lists, here's one online that seems to have a similar plan to yours, but wins through Chalice of Death instead. I think this list has some great ideas you could look at.
Those are my thoughts on it, if you think that it'll work, I'd try it out, as your lists stands, taking out other cards just seems less effective.
3 months ago
15 lands is a really low amount; you'll have problems playing your 3-mana cards consistently, you won't often get the landfall bonus from Rest for the Weary and you'll have a hard time casting 2 cards in a turn or activating an ability and playing a card. I'd recommend about 20 lands for this kind of deck. I'm also not sure that 4 Kabira Crossroads is a good idea; the life-gain is obviously nice but coming into play tapped will really slow down you down in such a low curve deck. I'd go down to just 1 or 2 of them at most.
I don't think Sun Droplet is very good in this deck; it's slow and dependant on your opponent's actions but you want your life-gain to be quick and reliable to turn on Serra Ascendant and Chalice of Death Flip as quickly as possible. Dazzling Reflection has a similar problem; it requires you or your opponent to already have a large creature on the battlefield, which won't always be the case. I'd also probably go down to just 1 Elixir of Immortality; I understand it has synergy with Voltaic Key and Squadron Hawk but in its own right its just 3 mana for 5 points of life-gain, which is not a very good rate.
3 months ago
7 months ago
Leyline of Anticipation is a fun way to win out of nowhere with these decks. Flash in a Felidar Soverign or one of the other win-on-upkeep-if-you-have-x-life cards at the end of your opponent's turn, then win on upkeep. Exsanguinate and Debt to the Deathless are other fun drain cards. Archangel of Thune in here is, well, ridiculous. Chalice of Life Flip is fun, and Chalice of Death Flip wins games. Sorin Markov and Sorin, Grim Nemesis have fun drain-y sub-themes. Ajani Goldmane could be fun in here too. I'd also suggest maybe adding in a taxing sub-theme with cards like Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, Vryn Wingmare, etc. That's all just off the top of my head. +1 from me though, nice to see an Oloro deck that actually allows other players to cast spells!
11 months ago
Still, I think Sanguine Bond is much better, because it's much easier to gain life than to damage the opponent. For example when in T5 I can drop Sanguine Bond I can well have a Karlov of the Ghost Council at 12+/12+ and a Wall of Reverence + Chalice of Death - So that is 17+ life drain in that turn..
11 months ago
No worries, a lot of people don't really understand what cruel control is, as it seems as if it should be just controlling the board in a way that makes the opponent want to commit murder irl.
As to the chances of getting both + , I'd say that you don't really need both of them to make each work, as when you have Chalice of Death, you will be gaining 5 life from Exquisite Blood and just attacking and general drain will gain you life back again.