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Creature — Human Advisor
At the beginning of your upkeep, each player may put two +1/+1 counters on a creature they control. If a player does, creatures that player controls can't attack your or a planeswalker you control until your next turn.
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Orzhov Advokist Discussion
3 weeks ago
To start off: Hardened Scales, Bear Umbra and Ordeal of Nylea. You do allot with just one counter, make use of it! And bear umbra or ordeal of nylea not only means counters but also a free extra Jenara abilities each turn.
Then we have allot of +1/+1 synergy in this deck, but allot of them are single use or difficult to get.
- Ninth Bridge Patrol is by no means terrible, but we don't have token generators let alone sacrifice outlets, so what about Cathars' Crusade? We want to grow, not compensate when we shrink!
- Hunt the Weak, forget the counter and go for Nature's Way. Same concept but cheaper and more diverse.
- Obsessive Skinner is decent, but you could also take Forgotten Ancient
- Ajani, Caller of the Pride would be a direct upgrade to Ajani, Valiant Protector in my opinion. And while you have some flavor for the valiant protector that we will now lose, that's ok;
Because what about Collective Effort for multiple purposes. Orzhov Advokist to play it politically. Hadana's Climb, Dragonscale General, Master Biomancer, Tuskguard CaptainVerdurous Gearhulk, Increasing Savagery and ow Kalonian Hydra!
1 month ago
Glad to see treasure nabber & xantcha working out; definitely looking to include them when i make a purchase to finish off my deck in the fall! I'm a little sad to see the exclusion of Orzhov Advokist just because I'm in love with the card haha. I might keep it in my list but I also run sun titan instead of dread; so i have a bit of extra appreciation for 3cmc creatures. (Also why Kambal is in the list).
Question for you; I know you cut diabolic tutor with your more recent update... however; in a hypothetical... if you did not have the monetarily expensive tutors (vampiric & demonic) would you consider playing the more mana expensive tutors (diabolic tutor & mastermind's acquisition) or would you just shy away from them all together?
I'm still actively working on my list Queen Marchesa, Politics & Pillow Forts
2 months ago
I could see dropping the Orzhov Advokist for Ravenous Slime. Also Cultivate seems like a fine swap for a land! Also, I am the #1 ranked helper on tappedout for all of this, so no need to thank me for effectively doing my job, but you are very welcome!
3 months ago
Sorry MegaMatt13, my comments about Erebos, God of the Dead combined comments on my deck with comments on yours. I meant that I am considering adding it into mine. The addition of denying opponents life gain is not lost on me. There is a Karlov deck in my meta that is super strong. Only Solemnity stands between me and a blowout in most games.
To chime in about Orzhov Advokist, I do now run Solemnity. It won't find a way into the deck unless I move away from Solemnity and the other cards that support it. Right now, Solemnity is a total beast. Counter hate is amazing in EDH, and if there was another copy of Solemnity, I would consider adding it. Even when I want people's decks to work for them, there are too many counter engines that will run away with the game if not dealt with. It has become a common tutor target in my deck.
3 months ago
precociousapprentice, thanks for taking the time to respond. I agree with you about Erebos. He's been in the deck for a while and performs very well. Shutting off opponents' lifegain is actually quite valuable too. It prevents opponents from "getting out of range" of being killed in the later game. I think I'm going to keep Twilight Prophet for now. She is performing decently and having a flier with reasonably high toughness can be valuable in the deck too.
I haven't cut Curse of Opulence yet...it's just on my list of potential cuts. I agree with your reasoning behind it. I'm just wondering if there may be another option that fulfills that function better. I put Rite of the Raging Storm back in a couple updates ago and it fulfills that role beautifully, giving each opponent a beater that can be used to attack anyone EXCEPT me. I'm thinking of giving Orzhov Advokist another chance in this role. Again it allows opponents to attack anyone except me and gives them a buff to do so. I think my main concern with Curse of Opulence it that it forces me to pick one opponent to put the target on...my hands are on the bloody weapon. Rite of the Raging Storm and Orzhov Advokist provide a general incentive without forcing me to choose who opponents should target.
Any further thoughts on this?
3 months ago
Only suggestion I can make depending on if you're up for updates are Orzhov Advokist or Teferi's Protection for self isolation - especially Teferi's if they're wiping your enchantments.
3 months ago
I see Propaganda as your featured card but not in the list itself. Not sure if you meant to add it or not.
4 months ago
If you like pillow forty options Orzhov Advokist, Windborn Muse, and Norn's Annex all work well in addition to Ghostly Prison. Heliod, God of the Sun and Avacyn, Angel of Hope aren't exactly soldiers, but they bring a lot of utility to white.
Looks like a fun deck, happy brewing!