Orzhov Advokist

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Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Legacy Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal

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Commander 2016 Uncommon

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Orzhov Advokist

Creature — Human Advisor

At the beginning of your upkeep, each player may put two +1/+1 counters on a creature he or she controls. If a player does, creatures that player controls can't attack your or a planeswalker you control until your next turn.

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Orzhov Advokist Discussion

polydeuces17 on must attack if able vs ...

1 month ago

Opponent has 3 creatures including a token from my Goblin Spymaster and uses the effect of my Orzhov Advokist what happens here?

Firebones675 on Phelddagrif, the Support, Who Supports Everyone

1 month ago

In addition to what other people mentioned, it's important to not just make people like you, but encourage people to do things other than attack you. I've been in games where people will thank me, but then turn on me later. If you include cards like Edric, Spymaster of Trest or Orzhov Advokist there's extra incentive to attack someone else.

For me a large part of group hug decks is getting political. By this i mean you help out people in exchange for them helping you and helping take out other player you deem scary. You can go beyond that and directly barter with people too. Telling people you will use your Phyrexian Splicer, Duelist's Heritage, or Power Matrix if they attack someone other than you is always nice.

If however you want to stay truly group hug and ignore the political aspect of it, i'd add more ways to directly give people more options with cards like Wishmonger, Intellectual Offering, Benevolent Offering, Sylvan Offering, Collective Voyage, Tempt with Discovery, Tempt with Reflections, Alliance of Arms.

The advocate creatures are also pretty nice. They have a benifit to you (or an oponnt if you feel generous) and return cards from your opponents graveyard back to their hands: Forcemage Advocate, Nullmage Advocate, Pulsemage Advocate, Shieldmage Advocate and Spurnmage Advocate.

Avacyn, Guardian Angel can also help your opponents or save yourself if needed. (vigilance is also nice cause you can still attack someone if needed)

Forced Fruition is a wierd one (they draw the cards whether they want to or not)

You mentioned in your last comment you said you really enjoy ridiculous decks. While it isnt exactly group hug, Knowledge Pool, Eye of the Storm and Hive Mind fit that description pretty well.

Austin_Smith_of_Cards on Hugs :)

1 month ago

First of all, Sol Ring. Just, Sol Ring.

Temple Bell is a cheap group card draw artifact that can also be used politically by determining when everyone gets to draw.

Orzhov Advokist is a perfect card for the group hug list; everyone else gets to pump their creatures and amplify their game, and you don't get attacked.

Skyscribing can be forecasted every turn for slow advantage, or cast in one go to refill everyone's hands.

Selvala, Explorer Returned ramps you a little and buffers your life total while drawing everyone cards. Neat effect that adds up over time.

Minds Aglow is another card that draws everyone more cards.

Braids, Conjurer Adept lets everyone power out their best cards from their hand every turn, which has the added benefit of getting your pillow fort enchantments online quicker.

Lastly, Kami of the Crescent Moon is another card that stuffs players' hands with cards.

TheRedGoat on The Enabler MTGO

2 months ago

Okay, so I do realize you ask for possible cuts, but I've honestly got too many things to list option-wise to say where a cut could/should be made. Some examples of options you may have missed:

Weird Harvest, Mana Flare, Dictate of Karametra, Howling Mine, Heartwood Storyteller, Shizuko, Caller of Autumn, Skullwinder, Horn of Greed, Helm of Awakening, Spectral Searchlight, Primal Vigor, Seed the Land, Bubble Matrix, Flux, Beacon of Immortality, Dawnbreak Reclaimer, Liege of the Hollows, Ghosts of the Innocent, Pulsemage Advocate, Orzhov Advokist, Wishmonger, Tangleroot. Storm Cauldron, Grove of the Burnwillows, Mikokoro, Center of the Sea, Geier Reach Sanitarium, Arbiter of Knollridge, Dakra Mystic, Concordant Crossroads, and

(my last two to mention that I cannot believe YOU don't even mention them how could you possibly have missed these and I'm metaphorically running out of air here)

Phelddagrif and Questing Phelddagrif.

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whew. Okay, firstly I do not do "tldr" summaries, so I'm afraid you'll have to sift through the above the slow way (which that isn' even an exhaustive list btw).

Secondly, to help you sift through the above I would ask is there a specific manner in which you are wanting to help people? Do you like seeing certain gameplans win or hate others? By example is that I can see some cards like Hive Mind being too helpful possibly towards "storm" decks, but if you're playing a catch-all type of group hug then that's no big deal.

Another idea is are you into fringe group hug effects? By which I mean playing Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth just to help everyone mana fix that uses black. Or even playing Ink-Treader Nephilim in tandem with say Tempt with Reflections to give everybody an extra copy of literally every creature on their board and them some. Heck, if you ran Rite of Replication you could let everyone have EVERY creature on the board. The nephilim isn't directly a group hug card here but it has the potential to hug. Kinda like Guided Passage no?

Just some food for thought. ;D

Alookeva on Karlov of the fat council

3 months ago

Rhox Faithmender vs Alhammarret's Archive Rhox is a creature and procs soul sisters and if killed death triggers. Though Archive is a SOLID CARD, you need to have card draw on top of it to make it effective. Also if you think you're gaining a lot of life through quality instead of how many instances of life gain, archive is better. For Karlov I enjoyed running Unspeakable Symbol. With such a Reanimator style, surprised to not see something like Cathars' Crusade in the deck. Orzhov Advokist is also another easy way to get extra counters on Karlov, because it says, PLAYERS can put two +1/+1 during your upkeep on any creatures they control. Free 2 +1/+1 on him. Polluted Bonds is a gross card. You want to make everyone pay for doing ANYTHING?? You need this card to get the full effect ;) Ajani, Caller of the Pride is better over Sorin, Grim Nemesis in my honest opinion. I had a Karlov deck that turned into Ayli, Life Manipulator. The original deck got stolen, but this is the list I'm running currently, if you want to compare notes.

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