Withengar Unbound

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Elbrus, the Binding Blade  Flip

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Format Legality
Vintage Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Legacy Legal
Modern Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal

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Dark Ascension Mythic Rare

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Withengar Unbound

Legendary Creature — Demon

Flying, trample, intimidateWhenever a player loses the game, put thirteen +1/+1 counters on Withengar Unbound.

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Withengar Unbound Discussion

BlueScope on How would Curse of Vengeance ...

6 months ago

Withengar Unbound  Flip's ability is an example of a card with an ability that triggers on a player losing the game. It will trigger, be put on the stack and could be arranged along with the other triggers.
Either way, if any triggers or permanents involved belong to the player that loses the game, those abilities will leave the game with them.

As a general addition to the topic of triggers - not all events use the stack, as spells and abilities normally do. Playing a land card, activating a mana ability, exiling a card with suspend or state-based actions (such as a player losing the game) don't use the stack and therefore can neither be arranged nor responded to.

RazortoothMtg on Evasion in Black

7 months ago

So my journey through every legend ever has brought me to Withengar Unbound  Flip. Yes, I am doing transforming legends.

Anyway, the front side, Elbrus, the Binding Blade  Flip, needs to hit to flip. I have Tormented Soul as a good way to get it through, but don't really know any other good ways.

Anyway, my question is: What are some unblockable/good evasion creatures in mono-black?

teodorofelipe on Your Soul is mine: A Withengar Unbound deck

8 months ago

dragonfly9078

First of all, thanks for the upvote ;)

Put some more creatures, now 19 with the living weapons and we got the Bitterblossom to consider too.

About the ramps, i do want to put some rocks, at least the better ones like Mana Vault, Grim Monolith and Everflowing Chalice, but i think i do have many mana doublers (Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, Crypt Ghast, Nirkana Revenant, Magus of the Coffers, Cabal Coffers) and ramp/rocks (Sol Ring, Mind Stone, Unstable Obelisk, Sword of the Animist, Burnished Hart, Myriad Landscape) already, and since we can't rush Withengar Unbound  Flip, mana doublers are better them ramp/rocks.

About discards, they are now only Cabal Conditioning and Myojin of Night's Reach, the idea is to tutor and use them to make room for a secure Elbrus, the Binding Blade  Flip setup, since with a controlled board and enemys with no hand, you can play with little to no fear. Syphon Mind is more for the card drawn with discard at the same time engine.

About Brass Squire, the idea is good, but maybe tutoring up for him, maybe better just tutor Dauthi Embrace, Whispersilk Cloak, Rogue's Passage or a creature with evasion in it to equip, since it is only mana symbol 1 to equip.

Dredge4life on [List - Multiplayer] EDH Generals by Tier

8 months ago

These cards are not commanders for the same reason Ormendahl, Profane Prince  Flip and Withengar Unbound  Flip are not legal commanders: the side that says "legendary creature" functionally doesn't exist anywhere until the condition to flip it has been met. Unless the card enters the battlefield with "legendary creature" on the type line, it cannot be used as a commander (exceptions for the C14 walkers). if it could, I would have used Withengar as my demon commander since his card was legal. The card that exists in every zone but the battlefield is called Akki Lavarunner and is just a regular creature, ergo it cannot be used as a general.

teodorofelipe on Your Soul is mine: A Withengar Unbound deck

8 months ago

Raging_Squiggle

Considering the Withengar Unbound  Flip and a voltron strategy:

Thran Dynamo, Worn Powerstone: i used them, but changed for the mana doublers Caged Sun and Gauntlet of Power.

Grim Monolith, Basalt Monolith, Mana Vault: Not a big fan of then, but i do see that they are good the main problem is knowing how much ramp and which to use. Any suggestion?

Metalworker: not sure if it would work in the deck since the majority of 19 the artifacts are mana rocks or are setup to be put in play as soon as possible.

Mana Crypt: for some reason i forgot it, i'm always with duel commander in mind, need space for it, any suggestion?

Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual: consider them with low consistency, and the fact that the commander don't have protection in it, it just don't look like a good idea putting him online hasty and without preparation.

The Swords of X and X: they are excellent, but i do think we don't need the effects that much, and there are better ways to get evasion and protection, and we would still need a plenty of space or them...

Loxodon Warhammer:Excellent idea, already thinking of it or Batterskull for the lifelink.

O-Naginata:Not good since he is already 13 power, so 16 won't change the clock, and already has trample.

Prowler's Helm: Since we it is pretty rare to see a wall, this one is a good idea, just need the room for it.

Hot Soup:Don't like the possibility of getting destroyed by the counter effect.

teodorofelipe on Your Soul is mine: A Withengar Unbound deck

8 months ago

Raging_Squiggle

As i said in the description, this is a Elbrus, the Binding Blade  Flip deck, the image you see in the commander place, is just an alter i made from the other part Withengar Unbound  Flip... just trade for a monoblack commander if the people you play don't let you use it, hope you like the deck.

teodorofelipe on Your Soul is mine: A Withengar Unbound deck

8 months ago

harkIt is not a token, Withengar Unbound  Flip is just the other face of Elbrus, the Binding Blade  Flip, offcourse it is not a legendary creature either, that is why you could just use Korlash, Heir to Blackblade in it's place, the thing about Withengar Unbound  Flip is the looks it has and his "when a player loses the game..." ability.

Ohthenoises on Commander's that aren't a creature.

10 months ago

TBH I feel like a Withengar Unbound  Flip effect would be better if you wanted an equip able commander

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