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Endless Whispers Discussion
1 week ago
Favorite Shard: Grixis
Manipulative, cruel, powerful. Edicts, burn, bounce, counterspells, everything control can be found here, and with a handful of evasive, aggressive creatures to swoop in with once you've established control of the board, or you can play the slow-burn game with effects like Nekusar, the Mindrazer. Put your opponent(s) on a clock and deny them the ability to stop it. Plus their ability to run some of the meanest creatures in the form of things like Kederekt Creeper, Baleful Strix, Master of Cruelties, etc. So much fun to be had.
Favorite Wedge: Abzan
Relentless power. I love Abzan because of its resilience, strength, and versatility. I'm not a huge fan of a lot of Abzan specific cards, but being able to run things like Animate Dead, Sun Titan, Brave the Sands, alongside gigantic green creatures like Ghalta, Primal Hunger, Ghoultree, Avatar of Might, etc is just incredible. The incredible suite of removal that B/W brings to the table in the form of Vindicate, Anguished Unmaking, Utter End, etc, combined with the might of Green creatures, further compounded by the volume of powerful reanimation effects these colors all have, builds a powerful, versatile deck that just never gives up. I've run Abzan decks that have had their most crucial cards hit with Slaughter Games type effects, and they still didn't stop, didn't slow down, and pulled out a win.
Favorite Allied Guild: Rakdos
Rakdos just knows how to throw a party. Every time I've built Rakdos I end up having fun, win or lose. Chaotic game-changers like Everlasting Torment, Havoc Festival, and Sire Of Insanity just bring a lot of shenanigans to the table that people just aren't prepared to deal with. Terminate is one of the kings of removal. Cards like Backlash, Delirium, and Rakdos Charm punish a variety of opposing playstyles. The individual colors also contribute a lot to your ability to handle creatures, and create even more chaos. Endless Whispers, Scrambleverse, you name it.
I cannot wait to get my hands on Last One Standing.
Favorite Enemy Guild: Simic
This one is simple, these two colors compliment each other so well it's insane. There is almost nothing that exists in this game that Simic cannot do. Green's weakness is its inability to manipulate the board much without combat. Blue's weakness is in its board presence and creatures. They are ideal together. Ramp, removal, aggro, counterspells, creature control, resilience. Simic has all its bases covered, and with just two colors. Mystic Snake, Trygon Predator, Kiora's Follower, Plasm Capture, Voidslime, Simic Charm, these cards are amazing, and that's without getting into the mono-color cards.
I'd also like to throw out some love for "Growth", the combination. The only pure Growth cards we have thus far are Atraxa, Praetors' Voice, and Witch-Maw Nephilim, but boy what cards they are. But the colors themselves are awesome together. G/U's flexibility, W/B's removal, much less other multicolor synergies, access to Abzan cards, Sultai cards, Esper cards. Obviously the mana base gets complicated fast, and it can be hard to handle, but if it works, it works.
1 month ago
I have tested it. The problem I found is that it is really dependent on drawing certain cards so i'm gonna work on fixing that. I'm thinking of running Bontu's Last Reckoning, to essentially swap creatures with an opponent if an Endless Whispers is on the battlefield.
2 months ago
Ravioli2003: Thanks for your feedback. But, at the risk of sounding ungrateful, I don't think Derelor would actually work that way with any of they cards you mentioned. Out of them all, only Endless Whispers is black, so only it would be affected by Derelor, by making it cost instead of .
It was a nice idea though, ty!
2 months ago
If you were to play five-color thrulls, you could get some sweet Converge/Sunburst value with Derelor. You can play cards such as Crystalline Crawler and Pentad Prism for bonus mana! Even better, it combos with Radiant Flames because you get to wrath for enough damage to kill off Derelor, so it stops taxing your spells! Alternatively, you could play it with Bazaar Trader, Harmless Offering, Donate, or Endless Whispers to give Derelor to an opponent who can't get black mana to soft-lock them.
2 months ago
Endless Whispers, while not a game winner, would be extremely funny in this deck
3 months ago
Your curve is generally correct, but I feel there are a few things you can change to optimize your deck (and I'll avoid expensive suggestions, in order to keep it affordable, suiting your budget). First of all, you could consider running two more lands (Mathas surely is a cheap commander but it better suits a more controlish game plan. I would prefer to run 36 lands in this purpose. I recommend you to give a look at the Rocky Tar Pit (it's basically a budget fetchland) and Myriad Landscape. The new Field of Ruin might interest you as it's a great political tool. Forbidden Orchard also is nice and affordable. Smoldering Marshand Canyon Slough are not that expensive and can help you stabilize your mana pool. And, only if it fits your budget issues, both Blood Crypt and Godless Shrine are good investments.
The Planar Bridge, even if it's a great card on its own, doesn't really match with your objectives. It's slow and will take too much time to be effective. If the ''tutor'' effect was what you were searching when you put this one into your deck, I suggest you some cards as Increasing Ambition or (a slow but more versatile card) Ring of Three Wishes.
An idea I find interesting with Mathas will concern the addition of a sacrifice outlet. With cards like a Skullclamp and a Bloodghast (I know, it's not a budget card actually, but you can find it for something like 10 euros now that it has been reprinted - if you're looking for a budget version, you can run the Reassembling Skeleton / Endless Cockroaches), it provides you an excellent card advantage, with cards like Ashnod's Altar / Phyrexian Altar it gives you the necessary resources for the late game. Not to say that the red colour also gives you access to tons of cards which allows you to take the control of your opponents' creatures for one turn (Captivating Crew for example)! Alongside the altars, those cards could enable you to kill the creatures you put a bounty counter onto and so you will gain the reward and gets nice value while slowing your opponents. It may require some testing time but it seems pretty decent.In control options, you have Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos and Attrition that could get the job done.
Tetzimoc, Primal Death seems really good here, and I'm glad someone finally decided to give it a try! With a Cloudstone Curio, you can bounce it back to your hand and restart clearing the board as much as you want, but you will have to think about adding other valuable etb effects and recursion's cards like Phyrexian Reclamation.
Sheoldred, Whispering One is not a cheap card, but feels like a staple for your strategy and your deckbuilding.
There is a lot of cards in your actual deck build that don't feel like a good idea since they just don't match with any strategy. Let's start with the Hoarding Dragon. It's a slow tutor and I can understand why you choose to play it, but it doesn't feel like a good idea. Jaya Ballard, Task Mage : the hate cards are bad because they often feel too situational and becomes dead cards. Even if Jaya provides you other options than the hate the blue guy one, she stays bad in comparison with other cards you could play (not saying that about expensive cards - even for a budget deck, she's just bad - cut it). Kulrath Knight doesn't do much in your deck... I mean... it's not such a bad card but come on, you want to pay 5 mana on something else than just a flying lil' body with wither. Kozilek, the Great Distortion is a great card, but it feels too slow here as you don't play anything to ramp, and, more important for your deck, it doesn't match with anything. If you absolutely want some eldrazi there, so add in some ramp cards and play Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, it will be much more efficient and synergize better with what you want to accomplish. Only 10 enchantments is not enough to get value from your Mesa Enchantress. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls is slow and doesn't do much. Shunt feels too situational. Righteous War is far from being interesting here, you will always prefer having Swiftfoot Boots over them... and I don't even know if you need those boots... no, I'm pretty sure you're fine without. Celestial Dawn doesn't do much and you will most of the time pay 3 to do nothing...which is bad.
A few suggestions :
Endless Whispers could be funny and fits very well the political theme!
Afterlife is a control tool which also left your opponent with a creature, it's nice not to make enemies.
Descent of the Dragons another control tool leaving your opponents with creatures. If your prison theme is strong enough, this card could be a staple as it puts 4-4 flying. Your opponents will slowly kill each other.
Disrupt Decorum mad flavorful card for a mad Mathas dude.
Besmirch not the best card ever, but could be interesting there.
Mogg Infestation lul
Chaos Warp doesn't kill your target, but it's still a really good and versatile answer.
Sarkhan the Mad look at the -2! (you will need a lot more protections if you go for it though, and chose to go for a lower curve (which is not such a bad idea btw))
Painful Quandary just a powerful and annoying control card - beware, it often attracts a lot of hate.
Solemn Simulacrum helps you to stabilize your mana base and gives you card draw.
I hope it would help you! Good luck with the deckbuilding and keep up the good work. :)
3 months ago
Also Cauldron of Souls can protect your creatures while also bringing back opponents' creatures for another round of pinging. Endless Whispers potentially does the same thing, but opponents might give those creatures to you instead to prevent the pinging, which is also a really powerful effect.