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Each creature has "When this creature is put into a graveyard from play, choose target opponent. That player puts this creature card from that graveyard into play under his or her control at end of turn."
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Endless Whispers Discussion
1 day ago
Endless Whispers, while not a game winner, would be extremely funny in this deck
4 days ago
Your curve is generally correct, but I feel there are a few things you can change to optimize your deck (and I'll avoid expensive suggestions, in order to keep it affordable, suiting your budget). First of all, you could consider running two more lands (Mathas surely is a cheap commander but it better suits a more controlish game plan. I would prefer to run 36 lands in this purpose. I recommend you to give a look at the Rocky Tar Pit (it's basically a budget fetchland) and Myriad Landscape. The new Field of Ruin might interest you as it's a great political tool. Forbidden Orchard also is nice and affordable. Smoldering Marshand Canyon Slough are not that expensive and can help you stabilize your mana pool. And, only if it fits your budget issues, both Blood Crypt and Godless Shrine are good investments.
The Planar Bridge, even if it's a great card on its own, doesn't really match with your objectives. It's slow and will take too much time to be effective. If the ''tutor'' effect was what you were searching when you put this one into your deck, I suggest you some cards as Increasing Ambition or (a slow but more versatile card) Ring of Three Wishes.
An idea I find interesting with Mathas will concern the addition of a sacrifice outlet. With cards like a Skullclamp and a Bloodghast (I know, it's not a budget card actually, but you can find it for something like 10 euros now that it has been reprinted - if you're looking for a budget version, you can run the Reassembling Skeleton / Endless Cockroaches), it provides you an excellent card advantage, with cards like Ashnod's Altar / Phyrexian Altar it gives you the necessary resources for the late game. Not to say that the red colour also gives you access to tons of cards which allows you to take the control of your opponents' creatures for one turn (Captivating Crew for example)! Alongside the altars, those cards could enable you to kill the creatures you put a bounty counter onto and so you will gain the reward and gets nice value while slowing your opponents. It may require some testing time but it seems pretty decent.In control options, you have Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos and Attrition that could get the job done.
Tetzimoc, Primal Death seems really good here, and I'm glad someone finally decided to give it a try! With a Cloudstone Curio, you can bounce it back to your hand and restart clearing the board as much as you want, but you will have to think about adding other valuable etb effects and recursion's cards like Phyrexian Reclamation.
Sheoldred, Whispering One is not a cheap card, but feels like a staple for your strategy and your deckbuilding.
There is a lot of cards in your actual deck build that don't feel like a good idea since they just don't match with any strategy. Let's start with the Hoarding Dragon. It's a slow tutor and I can understand why you choose to play it, but it doesn't feel like a good idea. Jaya Ballard, Task Mage : the hate cards are bad because they often feel too situational and becomes dead cards. Even if Jaya provides you other options than the hate the blue guy one, she stays bad in comparison with other cards you could play (not saying that about expensive cards - even for a budget deck, she's just bad - cut it). Kulrath Knight doesn't do much in your deck... I mean... it's not such a bad card but come on, you want to pay 5 mana on something else than just a flying lil' body with wither. Kozilek, the Great Distortion is a great card, but it feels too slow here as you don't play anything to ramp, and, more important for your deck, it doesn't match with anything. If you absolutely want some eldrazi there, so add in some ramp cards and play Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, it will be much more efficient and synergize better with what you want to accomplish. Only 10 enchantments is not enough to get value from your Mesa Enchantress. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls is slow and doesn't do much. Shunt feels too situational. Righteous War is far from being interesting here, you will always prefer having Swiftfoot Boots over them... and I don't even know if you need those boots... no, I'm pretty sure you're fine without. Celestial Dawn doesn't do much and you will most of the time pay 3 to do nothing...which is bad.
A few suggestions :
Endless Whispers could be funny and fits very well the political theme!
Afterlife is a control tool which also left your opponent with a creature, it's nice not to make enemies.
Descent of the Dragons another control tool leaving your opponents with creatures. If your prison theme is strong enough, this card could be a staple as it puts 4-4 flying. Your opponents will slowly kill each other.
Disrupt Decorum mad flavorful card for a mad Mathas dude.
Besmirch not the best card ever, but could be interesting there.
Mogg Infestation lul
Chaos Warp doesn't kill your target, but it's still a really good and versatile answer.
Sarkhan the Mad look at the -2! (you will need a lot more protections if you go for it though, and chose to go for a lower curve (which is not such a bad idea btw))
Painful Quandary just a powerful and annoying control card - beware, it often attracts a lot of hate.
Solemn Simulacrum helps you to stabilize your mana base and gives you card draw.
I hope it would help you! Good luck with the deckbuilding and keep up the good work. :)
1 month ago
Also Cauldron of Souls can protect your creatures while also bringing back opponents' creatures for another round of pinging. Endless Whispers potentially does the same thing, but opponents might give those creatures to you instead to prevent the pinging, which is also a really powerful effect.
1 month ago
I really like the manifest combo with these bad etb creatures, however I think the Endless Whispers combo is rather clunky. 4 mana + sacrifice outlet may not be worth it.
I REALLY like the manifesting though and I think you can take advantage of it in a Torpor Orb deck instead of Sundial of the Infinite. They are both 2 mana artifacts that turn off the downside of those creatures, except the orb doesn't cost extra mana each time. (you do loose out on cheating Pact of Negation though)
Have you considered splashing red for Temur Battle Rage?
2 months ago
I give my Phage the Untouchable general to an opponents with Endless Whispers. They lose. Phage gets exiled with the controller losing the game, but since phage is my general, can I put her in the command zone or is she exile forever with my dead opponent?
3 months ago
Hey, i am breweing arround a EDH deck with Endless Whispers and I am looking for creatures with bad effects for the controller so i can give them to my opponents. Any ideas?
3 months ago
You may need to include black if you are wanting people to attack you. That will give you access to things like Marchesa's Decree, Blood Reckoning, Hissing Miasma, No Mercy, Dread, and Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts.
I would also recommend running mostly rattle snakes for your creatures like Ophiomancer or Archetype of Finality. You are not only looking to make them attack you but also gain some kind of advantage from the attack. If you are not gaining advantage you are just making a deck designed to lose the game.
Due to the variety of colors in my post perhaps O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami would be the right commander? I will note that I built this deck and couldn't really get it to work but perhaps I just didn't give it enough time to sort out.