Creature — Ogre Warrior
Whenever another creature enters the battlefield under your control, that creature gets +2/+0 and gains haste until end of turn. (It can attack and this turn.)
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Ogre Battledriver occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.03%
Ogre Battledriver Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, nice work in progress at upgrading the precon :)
I don't know what the meta you play in is like, but what I can give you is overall advice on how to upgrade the precon. What the precon needs is early game ramp, tutors, haste enablers for Ghired and repeatable protection for Ghired in combat so he can safely attack and populate. Rhinos are really the only threat you need as long as you can keep attacking with Ghired.
Cards within the budget to consider adding:
- Ramp: Birds of Paradise, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Elvish Mystic, Llanowar Elves
- Ramp: Smothering Tithe, Faeburrow Elder
- Ramp: Arcane Signet, Wild Growth
- Tutor: Eladamri's Call, Finale of Devastation, Worldly Tutor, Fierce Empath
- Tutor: Enlightened Tutor, Idyllic Tutor, Open the Armory
- Tutor: Crop Rotation, Sylvan Scrying
- Haste: Lightning Mauler, Ogre Battledriver, Hammer of Purphoros
- Repeatable Protection: Mother of Runes, Reconnaissance, Eldrazi Displacer
- Recursion: Eternal Witness, Regrowth
- Lands: Temple Garden, Stomping Ground, Brushland, Karplusan Forest, Grove of the Burnwillows, Rugged Prairie, Battlefield Forge
- Removal: Swords to Plowshares, Vandalblast, Cataclysm, Wrath of God, Beast Within, Generous Gift
A problem with the precon is the high avg. CMC which is 3.9. This number means that consistently four drops or higher CMC cards will be in your hand which is very slow. Early game you don't want lots of four or higher CMC cards in your hand because you will not be able to cast them. Adding low mana cost ramp by cutting high mana cost cards can help to reduce this number.
There's a lot of high CMC cards here, in fact there's 36 four or higher CMC cards which is too much. There's a lot of high CMC threats and I don't think you need all of them. Instead of playing so many high CMC threats replace some of them with tutors which can get you the better cards/threats into your hand.
To be more competitive I would expand on combos and use most of the high CMC card spots for more combo cards rather than big creature threats. You have done this some what already by adding Purphoros, Helm for Aurelia and Godo, but consider expanding further. Cards for combos to consider adding:
- Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
- Aggravated Assault
- Bear Umbra
- Sigarda's Aid
- Savage Ventmaw
- Zealous Conscripts
- Impact Tremors
Combos that go with these cards:
- Kiki + Helm + Purphoros or Tremors for infinite damage.
- Kiki + Conscripts infinite hasty token Conscripts to attack. Add Purphoros or Tremors for infinite damage.
Outside of combos Kiki is good with populate because he can make a token copy of a nonlegendary creature and if you populate the token then that token doesn't go away at end of the turn. Kiki combos with Helm for infinite Kikis since the token copy of Kiki that's created by Helm is not legendary which allows Kiki to copy it.
- Assault + Umbra + five lands for infinite combats.
- Assault + Ventmaw for infinite combats and infinite green or red mana.
More infinite combat combos is good with Ghired because his power comes from him attacking. Outside of the combos Assault is a good card with Ghired because it can give you more attacks which is more populate.
A problem with Helm in all the combos, even Godo, is it's slow because you have to pay the five mana cost to equip it. Aid is a one drop which is worth including for Helm and Selves.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Hey, what's the max budget you have to make upgrades?
It can be a long process to upgrade an entire precon. What the precon really lacks is ramp, tutors and cards for better interaction with Ghired. The manabase in the precon can be upgraded with better dual lands, but casually is actually fine the way it is. Draw sources is one thing that the precon has a lot of which is surprising.
This is a summary list of some budget cards ($5 or less each, most are less than $1) that I think would help your deck:
- Ramp: Avacyn's Pilgrim, Wild Growth and Elvish Mystic
- Ramp: Selesnya Signet, Gruul Signet and Boros Signet
- Tutors: Eladamri's Call, Idyllic Tutor, Fierce Empath and Sylvan Scrying
- Extra Combats: Aggravated Assault with Savage Ventmaw
- Haste: Hammer of Purphoros, Ogre Battledriver and Lightning Mauler
- Protection: Mother of Runes, Eldrazi Displacer and Boros Charm
- Utility: Temur Sabertooth, Eternal Witness, Reclamation Sage and Regal Force
- Removal: Swords to Plowshares, Cleansing Nova and Heliod's Intervention
- Land: Canopy Vista and/or Scattered Groves that way Farseek can search for a dual land that can make white mana.
- Land: Battlefield Forge, Sunpetal Grove, Rootbound Crag and Sheltered Thicket
The avg. CMC (converted mana cost) of the precon is high at 3.9. This 3.9 number means that consistently you're not able to cast a spell until you have four mana sources and/or four lands which is slow. Consider reducing this number? Getting it down to 3.0 and then even lower after that. To do this consider cutting many high mana cost cards and replacing them with low mana cost ramp? Reducing the avg. CMC will speed up game play.
The most obvious upgrades to start with are adding more low mana cost ramp and tutors, but other upgrades to consider is how to make Ghired better overall for the deck since he's the Commander General. Casually Ghired is about attacking since he powers your deck's strategy by populating which he does when he attacks. Because attacking is important then consider strategies that can improve combat/attacking? Haste, extra combats and double strike are strong strategies with attacking.
I would make the Rhino the focus of the token population because it's big creature (4/4 trample) and is easily accessible because of Ghired. Because Ghired creates the Rhino token I don't think you need to go over the top with lots of other creatures or cards that create tokens. However, if relying more on Ghired and the Rhino token then consider more repeatable protection for Ghired to keep him alive on the battlefield. Not having to do combat damage with Ghired to populate is nice.
Not having to do combat damage means you can protect Ghired in combat so he survives while still populating a token since he attacked. If you can repeatedly protect Ghired in combat then you can keep safely attacking with him. Ghired needs to attack to populate which means he has to survive combat to be able to attack again. Protection for Ghired in combat is another area for upgrades to consider because you want Ghired to be able to keep attacking.
Extra combats are good with Ghired because he wants to be attacking and extra combats means you get to attack again or multiple times on your turn. Aggravated Assault + Savage Ventmaw is infinite combats which is infinite attacks. As long as Ventmaw can attack it makes six mana. Five of that mana can be used with Assault for an extra combat. At the extra combat Ventmaw will attack again and make six mana; use that mana with Assault and repeat. Without Ventmaw Assault is still a very good card because it can be repeatable for five mana on your turn you get to attack twice which can be a lot of Rhinos.
I offer more advice, more explanations about each of these suggestions, more detailed steps you can take to improve your deck, cards you could cut, etc. Would you like more advice?
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
Well, there's quite a few ways to make a deck quicker, the simplest would be just to add more ramp. Rampant Growth , Kodama's Reach , Nature's Lore . Having Ghired out by turn 4 is good, so try to stay under 4 CMC with ramp spells.
The deck, like any precon deck, has quite a few weird cards that don't fit the main commander, for example Tectonic Hellion , Tahngarth, First Mate , Marisi, Breaker of the Coil , Scaretiller etc. These are interesting cards and they have homes, but Ghired probably isn't that home.
When playing, check which cards are underperforming, as well. Some do fit your theme but simply aren't very efficient. Some, like Emmara Tandris or Desolation Twin can come down to late with too little impact. Of course, it's ultimately your call, some people, myself included, enjoy using less efficient cards if they have fun effects. It's commander after all, it's about using the cards you enjoy!
Having a faster star will absolutely help, but being able to hold out for a longer game will benefit you too, which is why card draw is important as well! Card draw is very valuable in commander, so some more of that couldn't hurt. the deck already includes some awesome draw cards like Ohran Frostfang and Idol of Oblivion but there's plenty of other great draw spells as well and it's an effect you're likely going to want lots of. I like Rishkar's Expertise a lot personally, and Return of the Wildspeaker is awesome, being either a draw spell or an Overrun effect if needed.
If you'd like to see more suggestions, I recommend the site EDHREC. You could use it to see what cards other Ghired players use, which can be very helpful! Although remember to make your own decisions on what to include too, the majority's not always right. Just see what cards are the most fun to play, that's the most important!
Hope this helps! Happy populating!
1 month ago
Riku is rad. You might like these: Spark Double , Twinflame , Zada, Hedron Grinder , Mirrorwing Dragon , Quasiduplicate , Repudiate / Replicate , Second Harvest , Manamorphose , Temur Ascendancy , Ogre Battledriver , Harabaz Druid , Wirewood Channeler , Rude Awakening , Bonus Round , Mulldrifter , Peregrine Drake
1 month ago
Cool idea! You might like these: Somberwald Sage , Draining Whelk , Venser, Shaper Savant , Flametongue Kavu , Balefire Dragon , Ulvenwald Tracker , Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir , Seedborn Muse , Stunt Double , Master Biomancer , Riku of Two Reflections , Wild Beastmaster , Ogre Battledriver , Cauldron of Souls , Colfenor's Urn , Storm the Citadel
1 month ago
I have a lot of recommendations for you. These may be pricey so I apologize if they're out of your price range but here you go:
Cards To Add Show
Add Reyhan, Last of the Abzan . If you can put +1/+1 counters on your creatures, your devourer will get HUGE real fast! Gets crazy too if you eat everything with Mycoloth and all those extra +1/+1 counters go to him.
Add Triumph of the Hordes . This cards a no brainer for token swarms and huge powerful armies. Remember, it only takes 10 infect to kill someone.
Add Moldervine Reclamation . Just a simple life gain/card draw engine for your devourers.
Cards To Swap Show
Replace Thorn-Thrash Viashino with Bloodspore Thrinax . Viashino doesn't provide any positive effects for devouring. Bloodspore Thrinax on the otherhand can push a token deck into an absurd board state.
Replace Mother Bear with Jade Mage . Mother Bear is situational and requires her to be in the graveyard prior to using her. And the value isn't all that great. With Jade Mage you can use all of your mana every turn to do at least something.
Replace Emrakul's Hatcher with Tendershoot Dryad . Emrakul isn't that great for your token production. Tendershoot on the other hand can buff all of your saprolings and in a 4 player game, it'll produce 3 tokens by the time it comes back to you.
Replace Algae Gharial with Poison-Tip Archer . You won't get much value out of Gharial. Poison-Tip Archer on the other hand can be lethal if kept on the board. It's basically a stronger Mayhem Devil .
Cards to Cut Show
Mana Rocks Show
Wayfarer's Bauble , Arcane Signet , Chromatic Lantern , Commander's Sphere , Darksteel Ingot , Thran Dynamo , Worn Powerstone , Fellwar Stone , Golgari Signet , Gruul Signet , Rakdos Signet , Talisman of Impulse , Talisman of Indulgence , Talisman of Resilience , Heraldic Banner
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Fabled Passage , Castle Embereth , Dwarven Mine , Bojuka Bog , Grim Backwoods , Phyrexian Tower , Kessig Wolf Run , Volrath's Stronghold , Overgrown Tomb , Stomping Ground , Woodland Cemetery , Blood Crypt , Dragonskull Summit , Command Tower , Savage Lands , Rootbound Crag , Rakdos Carnarium , Gruul Turf , Golgari Rot Farm
1 month ago
Looks good! You might like these: Thermopod , Ivy Lane Denizen , Evolutionary Leap , Cathars' Crusade , Mana Echoes , Basilisk Collar , Sunbond , Mantle of Leadership , Birds of Paradise , Requiem Angel , Divine Visitation , Retreat to Kazandu , Fertilid , Kalonian Hydra , Ogre Battledriver
1 month ago
This deck is ridiculously powerful 1v1. Several of my faster and more competitive decks could barely get going before either ilharg commander killed or just too much damage overall hit through. This deck laughs at other decks that build their commanders up and swing in for 24 commander damage turn 10. Turn 4 or 5 someone's about to die with ilharg. Someone could potentially die T3, with ideal hand plus draw. T1: Mountain - Sol Ring + Ruby Medallion or a mana rock, T2 Mountain - Ilharg (or Ogre Battledriver ), T3: Mountain - Berserkers' Onslaught , attack with ilharg, bring in Angrath's Marauders . Damage - Ilharg +2 power plus 6 power double the damage, double strike 32 commander damage to the face. Trample.