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Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature you control
Whenever enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life.
When Spirit Loop is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return Spirit Loop to its owner's hand.
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Spirit Loop Discussion
3 days ago
Reasons for the two questions above:
If you are winning 1/4 games, you are on par with the rest of the decks in your meta :). Either way though, tuning our decks is part of the fun and will make our playgroup improve as well.
As for the other question, for me the cards that "aren't bad", but aren't great most of time, are the signals for weak links. Either I take those out in favour of cards that synergize, increase card advantage or make a pathway to, and support, my win condition... Or, if they are cards I want to focus on, I keep them in and remove others in place of cards that'll make the "aren't bad" cards great.. Of course it all depends :).
I admit, I do not have much experience with STAXish or Control, and I'm still low on the learning curve. I do have some thoughts to share that I think can help :). I like to find a balance between flavour and function, cards that synergize and have the same "feel" while helping achieve more focus. The focus is a big step for a deck to take to get more wins. Coming up with some clear pathways to your wincons is important.
If you don't have the $ to pickup the Demonic Tutor , Idyllic Tutor and Enlightened Tutor s, there are options like Insidious Dreams . I always look at scryfall.com for transmute cards that could work as well. I just saw Brainspoil , it would be cheaper to activate than Diabolic Tutor . You would pay 3, discard it and go for any card that's 5 cmc, with special thought to either piece of your wincon. It'd also offer another removal in a pinch, or if your wincon is in hand.
If the Blood-Bond combo is your win-con right now, I'd recommend adding in recursion to get them back if they're destroyed. Argivian Find for example. Monk Idealist is a good option if you want to be more creature based. Tragic Poet is slightly slower but lower cmc. Dawn to Dusk costs a little more but pulls double duty as enchantment removal. Open the Vaults could get them both on the battlefield if each are in the yard, and for cheaper than casting both from your hand - you could make getting them from your library to your yard and casting this one pathway to your wincon. I've heard of someone using Insidious Dreams to put combo cards on top of their library, then using something to mill themselves (blue is good at this) and casting an Open the Vaults type spell. Either way you want to go, it'd be worth having at least two recursion spells to support your win-con.
If you add that enchantment recursion, a Sunbond might work to good effect, synergizing with both your lifegain and counters, but also allowing you to beef up a creature for a big strike. Spirit Loop is fantastic on big strikers, if you find your getting one in 75-80% of games. It doubles up with lifelink. Underworld Coinsmith could be a nice flavour/function addition if you start leaning into the enchantment side a little more. Basilisk Collar is a great value card giving some big creature deathtouch as one more disincentive for attacking you, while giving you another tool for lifegain when it's time to go on the attack. Imagine these on Defiant Bloodlord ?!
Worn Powerstone could be a good addition to your mana-base, something the deck might need to be able to keep responding. Smothering Tithe is one that’s off flavour but could be what you need to help ramp.
As Kaigz recommended, Dawn of Hope would go well and give you good card draw.
Krav, the Unredeemed and Regna, the Redeemer could be a nice little combo in this deck - but they both do great as solo includes. I have Krav in a deck that has the colours for Regna, but I already make plenty of tokens. In this deck, you don't have as many creatures to sacrifice to Krav, and if Regna was removed he'd be less useful for you. However, I'd say Regna might be useful? If you had a few more token generators, they'd be a great addition. Casting a creature and getting another to your hand is pretty big value in itself, but with tokens Krav is fantastic value while also making a big creature. I have him in my life leaching Ghave deck
Purity seems sweet. Do you have much red in your meta, enough to make this worth the slot and cmc? if so... Auriok Champion could swapped in for Soul's Attendant , 1 more, it has protection from red making it not just immune to red spells, but an invincible blocker against any creatures (meta dependent).
Imp's Mischief is a powerful little "counterspell" that isn't a counterspell and it goes into the bucket of cards the teach people not to target you... This style of deck is a good place to take that strategy that punishes people for coming at you. Deathtouch and instant speed removals help with that as well.
Batwing Brume is a cheap$ fog for your colours that also fits the flavour.
Here's some thoughts on cards to take out - of course this is from online review and opinion, I don't have the gameplay experience you have.
Do you regularly have plenty of cards in hand to make the of Venser's Journal worth it?
Pontiff of Blight I don't think there's good value between his cost and what he offers you. There's cards that'd do far more for you.
I THINK cards like Night Terrors are better for much faster and competitive metas where you will know who is going to most likely be able to stop you from comboing off. Or in 1v1 games. I haven't found a place for those cards in semi-competitive group metas yet, and definitely wouldn't guess to see it fulfilling the cardslot's deserved value. It's a 1for1 trade off leaving you and the person you targeted one step behind your other opponents in card advantage. I DO see the times it could be fantastic, but it's one of those corner-case cards in the multiplayer slower style of EDH.
I feel like with the slow lifegain you have, I'd take Aetherflux Reservoir out until you consistently, after many, many games, find yourself getting to 90-100 life. I understand it to be mainly good in Storm or in a deck with more explosive life gain, like Firesong and Sunspeaker , or one that uses lifelink or Spirit Loop on a giant voltron commander. I might, if this were my deck, take it out for cards that make your deck tick a little more, just for now. Then, if you are gaining plenty of life (multiples of 50) over many games or created strong pathways to get Exquisite Blood onto the battlefield, you will by then see what is worth taking out for this. Exquisite Blood and the Reservoir are pretty their own Blood-Bond combo, but you need to make sure you have that 55 or more life consistently.
Felidar Sovereign ... Personal opinion alert .... When I first got back into magic I was so excited to pull this in a booster pack... I personally dont enjoy these alternate wincons and feel there's cards that could fill this slot that'd synergize with other cards for more diverse interactions and make the deck far more interesting. But that's just me :)
1 month ago
Welcome new members! Wish I had time to help with decklists, take my upvotes as compensation!
I keep a list of interesting cards that I add to, so I'll definitely be adding some of those!
2 months ago
This list is awesome, especially the categorization makes it a real good help!
Some suggestions that I haven't come across in your list:
- Curious Obsession
- Aether Tunnel
- Aspect of Mongoose
- Triclopean Sight
- Sigil of Sleep
- Phantom Wings
- Ghostly Wings
- Shimmering Wings
- Gryff's Boon
- Genju of the Falls
- Spirit Loop
- Pemmin's Aura
Hope it helps.
4 months ago
Red/white is the way to go with this. Not only do you get Boros Reckoner and Spitemare and Truefire Captain as backups, but also cards like Spirit Loop or Spirit Link in combination with Pariah or Pariah's Shield will get you infinite life. Additionally, just slapping a pariah on doll will make you immune to damage, so that is something.
5 months ago
Gatherer of Graces only sacs auras, so it wont work in the O-Ring/Parallax example, unfortunately.
Spirit Loop is probably my fav recurring aura, it isnt lifelink so allows double lifegain if the creature has lifelink.
5 months ago
I like your build, with a few exceptions, otherwise it looks solid. There are cards I run in my build that I'm not seeing in your build, and I believe you really need to run them.
First, a few creatures worth addressing. Kor Spiritdancer is a must, given the number of auras you are running, as is Sram, Senior Edificer. I would consider taking all of the Lieutenant cards and Thassa's Devourer out for some better options, such as Eidolon of Countless Battles, Auratog, and Phantatog. Why the atogs? Merciless Eviction and Return to Dust effects, primarily.
For auras, look into recursive enchants like Rancor. Ones I didn't see that you can track down are: Launch, Brilliant Halo, Spirit Loop, and Cessation. Aqueous Form can help you push through damage and set up your draws a little better, too.
I hope these suggestions help! I really enjoy this commander. Bant Enchantress is by and large my favorite archetype of all time. I'm the resident expert, in a manner of speaking, at my LGS because I've been playing it for so long (or variants). Good luck.
5 months ago
From the Unstable FAQAWASLFAQPAFTIDAWABIAJTBT:
"Say a creature with no text box leaves the battlefield and then returns. Does it have its own text box again?
Yes. Once the creature leaves the battlefield, the one that returns is a new creature and comes complete with its standard text box. This won't affect Phoebe, who presumably still has the one she stole from the original creature."
So each time Etrata, the Silencer returns, it has its text box back (it's a new permanent with no memory of losing its text box, after all). Meanwhile Phoebe would have duplicate copies of Etrata's text box from stealing them multiple times. The duplicate copies of the "can't be blocked" ability are redundant, but duplicate copies of the second ability do stack due to it being a triggered ability. (You can stack any triggered abilities this way, similar to enchanting a single creature with multiple copies of Spirit Loop.)
So yes, three copies of Etrata's text box on Phoebe will allow her to instantly kill a player, assuming they have three non-token creatures for Phoebe to exile with hit counters in order to meet the alternate lose condition.
7 months ago
And here are some cards that I think would go well in the deck:
- Leyline of Anticipation (The ability to hold up mana to have "answers" is priceless)
- Auramancer's Guise
- Daybreak Coronet
- Eldrazi Conscription
- Ethereal Armor
- Gift of Immortality
- Spectra Ward
- Steel of the Godhead
- Spirit Loop THIS IS NOT LIFELINK! So if a creature with lifelink would gain you double the life.
- Celestial Mantle
- On Serra's Wings
- Ajani's Chosen
- Hanna, Ship's Navigator
- Academy Rector
- Sun Titan
Spirit Loop occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%