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Lim-Dul the Necromancer
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Whenever a creature an opponent controls is put into a graveyard from play, you may pay (1)(Black). If you do, return that card to play under your control. If it's a creature, it's a Zombie in addition to its other creature types.
(1)(Black): Regenerate target Zombie.
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Lim-Dul the Necromancer Discussion
4 months ago
An extremely in-depth article just came out on this.
TL;DR: Lim-Dul the Necromancer is the most likely candidate.
4 months ago
Focusing on creatures such as Bane of Bala Ged, Sheoldred, Whispering One, and Kozilek, the Great Distortion, would turn this deck in a different direction than it currently goes, becoming more reanimator than control. Putting those creatures onto the battlefield makes me a target, and that's the opposite of what I want to do when I'm playing this deck. The idea is to discourage people from trying to interact with me by promising that they will lose more than I do. If I slam Sheoldred, suddenly A) they are losing value if they DON'T interact with me, and B) I have something important to lose, so the interaction's no longer one-sided in my favor.
Lim-Dul the Necromancer is certainly an option, though I tend to find him too expensive for his effect. I'd recommend trying out Geth, Lord of the Vault over Lim-Dul, since he not only can res creatures without waiting for a death trigger, but can grab artifacts too, all while doubling as another win-con should we get enough mana.
Phyrexian Obliterator is... interesting. My gut instinct is to say that it falls into the same category as Kozilek, the Great Distortion, in that it paints too much of a target on me. That said, if I were to use it properly (that is, mainly on defense), it could certainly be quite effective as a deterrent. I'll play around with it and let you know how it performs.
Gonti, Lord of Luxury is an odd one for sure. The variance on him seems really high - for every time I rip someone's eldrazi titan off the top of their library, there are going to be moments I hit three lands and an Emerald Medallion. If I were killing/reanimating him consistently, he'd be pretty sweet, but I don't know how frequently I'd end up doing that over reanimating Gray Merchant or things from my opponent's graveyards.
Kor Dirge is cute, but I dunno how effective it would be. If someone's actually attacking me, they're likely going for the kill, expecting that I'll interact by removing a lot of their attacking creatures. Dirge doesn't seem any better than any particular kill spell in that instance, and would be weaker in moments when I need a kill, but am not being actively targeted.
Sorin Markov runs afoul of the same limitations as Karn. As a terrifying planeswalker, he's going to draw more attention than he's worth. In addition, it's rare that I'm attacking with small enough amounts of damage that setting someone's life to 10 will be relevant. Either I'm swinging with a huge board courtesy of Rise of the Dark Realms, or I'm not usually swinging at all. Similarly, when casting the game-ending X-cost spells, it doesn't usually matter what life someone's at - either I have loads more mana than I could ever need, or I'm not likely going for the kill. Thus, life-gain strategies tend not to be an issue for me (doubly so since most of them rely on lifelinking creatures, which are easy for me to remove).
4 months ago
Yeah I reason I karn would be good is there will be decks that have enchantments same with a few planeswalkers. I been thinking of ways to be more well rounded in a multiplayer game against these cards. Plus also trying to steal the cards onto your battlefield.
Gonti, Lord of Luxury we can abuse via reanimation triggers
Kozilek, the Great Distortion for us to discard instants to counter cards and set up our spells
Bane of Bala Ged to keep exiling lands, enchantments, and other problematic things
Sheoldred, Whispering One can keep on triggering toshiro's ability
Primal Amulet to reduce our instants cost and also copy the spells
Sorin Markov I've seen a video with someone using him in a toshiro edh deck and won 4 times. While he may not be able to kill things he can take care of annoying life gain decks
Phyrexian Obliterator for defense and another way of dealing with permaments
Kor Dirge to redirect damage
Lim-Dul the Necromancer to steal your opponents creatures
Boseiju, Who Shelters All your instants cant be countered
5 months ago
Thinking about adding:
Archetype of Imagination
Arjun, the Shifting Flame
Augur of Skulls
Beguiler of Wills
Prince of Thralls
Disciple of Bolas
Docent of Perfection Flip
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
Fiend of the Shadows
Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
Jalira, Master Polymorphist
Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge
Jhoira of the Ghitu
Jori En, Ruin Diver
Kaho, Minamo Historian
Lim-Dul the Necromancer
Maga, Traitor to Mortals
Magus of the Abyss
Magus of the Coffers
Magus of the Future
Magus of the Mind
Magus of the Will
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Mizzix of the Izmagnus
Nekusar, the Mindrazer
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Profaner of the Dead
Sage of Fables
Sower of Temptation
Taigam, Sidisi's Hand
Talrand, Sky Summoner
Tibor and Lumia
Vela the Night-Clad
Need help on ideas for sorcery, instants , enchantments and artifacts to add to this deck!!
Also not sure what way to go with this deck
6 months ago
yeah, the combo shines if you include Grave Pact / Grave Betrayal / Dictate of Erebos.another combo piece to this: Diregraf Colossus. endless zombies incoming.on the other side, if you can pull the combo off with your Blood Artist / Zulaport Cutthroat, you instantly win the game.I play 38 lands and 3 artifacts that create mana. In my case it's enough if I don't draw really bad.If you want to cut smthn, I would cut Bontu the Glorified. It's a sac outlet but for real.. it's not a really good one.Ever After in addition is a really good spell to get two extra creatures out of your graveyard.Lim-Dul the Necromancer can maybe be a good addition too.
7 months ago
Cryptbreaker - Great for dumping creatures into the graveyard, making tokens, and drawing you cards.
Death Baron - Not a budget option, but highly effective.
Empty the Pits - I have a bunch of these from my Khans redemption.
Ghoulcaller Gisa - A great way to get creatures in to the bin and make a significant amount of token zombies.
Ghoulcaller's Chant - An interesting option as you can recur two zombies for one black mana.
Grave Betrayal - Similar to your commander's abilities as it steals dead creatures and makes them zombies under your control.
Graveborn Muse - Card draw FTW!!!
Gravespawn Sovereign - A spendy activated ability for an powerhouse ability.
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet - Not all creatures need to fit the tribal theme as your commander makes them Zombies.
Liliana's Reaver - Token generation, discard effect, decent rate. Viable option.
Necromantic Selection A board wipe with a recursion ability.
Noosegraf Mob This card makes a ridiculous amount of zombies!
Quest for the Gravelord - An interesting, cheap, enchantment with repeatable value.
Risen Executioner - Odd Zombie Lord.
Rooftop Storm - A must in any Zombie deck.
Metallic Mimic - Lord
Vizier of Many Faces - Clones!
AND OF COURSEZombie Fanboy