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Wall of Shards
Snow Creature — Wall
Cumulative upkeep-An opponent gains 1 life. (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
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Wall of Shards Discussion
1 month ago
Love the deck! Here's some random thoughts.
Vizkopa Guildmage is also fun.
Wall of Shards Has the chance to be ridiculous
I actually have a Martyr-Proc deck that literally started out as a Tainted Remedy deck, but ended up taking the fundamentals and adding a ton more lifegain. Check ti out! WB Martyr Pain & Proc
1 month ago
Here are a few in addition to what others have mentioned:
3 months ago
If you're looking for cards to add, my first recommendation is to add more lands. Personally, unless I'm running a lower curve, I like to run 35-38 lands, but if you find 32 lands works then here's some other suggestions.
If you want some redundancy with your Propaganda effects you could include Ghostly Prison, Windborn Muse, and/or Norn's Annex. Maze of Ith, Mystifying Maze, and Glacial Chasm are also great ways to protect yourself (and, in the case of Maze of Ith, play a little game of politics).
I don't see any board wipes, so I have to recommend including 1 or 2, some of which include Wrath of God, Merciless Eviction, Cyclonic Rift, Evacuation, and Damnation or Toxic Deluge if your budget permits.
Some removal that's a little "on theme" would include Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, and Arcane Denial. Also Pongify, Rapid Hybridization, and Beast Within (although I'd imagine players would be less than excited to replace their creatures with worse ones.)
3 months ago
Yes, the draws have been a little wonky.
I've been brewing a different list; WB Martyr Pain & Proc list #2 that kind of removed the Tainted Remedy/Wall of Shards aspect and focuses more on a secondary Vizkopa Guildmage wincon. Once that list is more worked out, I'll be replacing this list with that one and likely keeping this list in an update somewhere.
Feel free to check it out! I am working on it there and I'm looking for any input on improving it.. Of course the manabase is important, so if you have any suggestions for a revamp, I'm all ears. :-)
Thanks for the help!
4 months ago
Thank you for the reply! Like I said, I'm completely up for any and all suggestions.
I think you might a problem with you decks focus. Are you attempting to gain life yourself, or hurting the opponent by giving them life?
So that's the thing with this deck. I can do either depending on which wincon is on the field. If I have a first hand draw that includes Tainted Remedy, I'm likely going to play Wall of Shards turn two, then Remedy (or bridge) turn 3 and then use my cards to "give life" to my opponent with Rest for the Weary, Heroes' Reunion or wall of shards.
If my draw includes my Chalice of Life and/or Sanguine Bond I'm going to try and boost my own health turn two with a Martyr of Sands (played turn one) and a Rest for the Weary/Heroes' Reunion turn 3 for a chalice flip on turn 4. If I have a tutor in hand or bridge, I'll always play bridge turn three and attempt to pad my health for the eventual Chalice. Tainted remedy should be extremely easy to find with this deck, so I'm expecting to turtle up and damage from behind my bridges no matter if I have Remedy, Bond or Chalice out. Now, I CAN remove my Bonds and go for an entirely Remedy/Chalice wincon or I can remove my Tainted Remedies and still tutor for a Bond/Chalice/Bridge wincon. Either way, currently both of them are supported with this deck, but I can easily specialize.
As for colors, I'm ONLY splashing green for Heroes' Reunion since it's the best cheap lifegain card I could find. I would like to stick to LOW mana (like 3 or less) black/white cards if I could.. I'd love to be able to remove the green just to make the manabase that much easier to manage.
So about your suggestions, I really like Congregate because it supports all three wincons this deck has, my ONLY issue with it is that it has 4 CMC and in a bridge deck, that's a bit too high since I want my hand size to be as minimal as possible. This card would likely be best if I dropped Sanguine Bond for the Congregates (probably a 3x) and went for a purely Tainted remedy/Chalice wincon. It'll also (like you said) reduce the amount of black int the deck and allow Martyr of Sands to shine.
Blessed Alliance is also a card that I looked at and I may give a shot in the future, simply because it's such a good toolbox.
Wrath of God, Day of Judgment and Fumigate are always cards that I will consider in white decks. I have a few Wrath of God cards sitting around.. I might toss a few in! The only issue I ave with them in this deck is wiping out my Wall of Shards and if I do get my bridge out with a near empty hand, I'm not worried about creatures anyways.. And if I do get a Congregate in play, I wouldn't want to have a Wrath of God type card sitting in my hand allowing bigger creatures to attack me.
Rhox Faithmender Is a very sexy card if I decide to go the Sanguine Bond route can use my lifegain as a wincon. The only issue with a Sanguine Bond wincon is that it slows the deck to a minimum of 7-8 turn win and has more expensive cards in hand, therefor hurting my Bridge defenses.
Proclamation of Rebirth - I MAY purchase this and put it on the sideboard. Right now the only thing I could return is my Martyr of Sands which could help me produce a self lifegain wincon. I'll keep this one in mind.
Thank you so much for the writeup and suggestions! I might actually change up the deck just a bit. Your input was much needed. Thanks again!
4 months ago
I really like your deck idea. The synergy with Wall of Shards and Tainted Remedy is fun. You were asking for suggestion on a bunch of differen subjects, first I will you my considerations regarding the colors of the decks, and then I have a bunch of cards choices you might consider.
I think you might a problem with you decks focus. Are you attempting to gain life yourself, or hurting the opponent by giving them life? You need to figure this out. Is your decks most important card either Tainted Remedy or Sanguine Bond/Chalice of Life. I do understand why you're playing both, as the other can be a backup. 1 of the other is still something I would run, but not more.Because you're running Martyr of Sands, you'll also need more white cards in your deck, than black. This is why most of my card choices are white.
Consider these cards to replace Ruinion:Blessed Alliance - A great removal, that currently seed play in modern.Congregate - Great against Token decks.Lone Missionary - Great blocker and also have synergy with some of the cards below.
Replacements for Aciennt Stirrings:Wall of Omens - Also a wall, and delays the game further while providing you with cards.Thraben Inspector - Same a Wall of omens, expect it requires an additional payment to draw the card.Survival Cache - Gains a small amount of life, but will only draw you cards if you have the most life. It can draw your two cards.
If you're deciding to playing green, even though you might be moving away from the color, consider running Kavu Predator. You might also consider being mainly white, with just a splash of black, green or blue. (For Trophy Mage)
This is some other cards, you might consider in your deck:A Wrath effect - Wrath of God/Day of Judgment/FumigateSun Titan - Recursion for all your creatures, as well as Chalice, Bridge and Tainted Remedy.Emeria, The Sky Ruin - Also recurs creatures, but only in the late game.Rhox Faithmender - Doubles your own life gain effects.Blind Obedience, instead of Authority of the Consuls. It allows you to drain life just from casting spells.Proclamation of Rebirth - Excellent in recurring Martyr of Sands.
5 months ago
Nice Deck! There are a couple of suggestions I have, from experience making Shirei and Alesha decks.
For one, I would recommend Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker wholeheartedly here. Even with not all you creatures having 1 power, he is still insane, allowing you to get so much more sac value out of your smaller creatures. Rhox Faithmender is also an important piece; I wouldn't leave him out. Maybe to take use of your commander's ability, a few walls that sac for a lot of life? Wall of Shards, Wall of Omens, maybe even 0/6 lifegain wall.