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1 month ago
Hey Decidares! This started as a pre-con and I swapped some cards around with my inventory. I'm thinking I want to keep it between casual and competitive just to start since I'm not really sure where I'd be playing this and what power levels the other players at my LGS are playing at. I'd say mid to late game wins could be the most rewarding as other players at the table would have built up their battlefield and have an intimidating presence at the table as well. As for my budget I'd like to keep it below $300 for now.
I'm checking with my LGS to see if they have some tri-colored lands that enter tapped like Jungle Shrine and also throwing in catch-all's like Secluded Courtyard, Unclaimed Territory and The World Tree. Might add some more dragons that could improve the deck like Tiamat, Lathliss, Dragon Queen, Scion of the Ur-Dragon and Dragonborn Champion after looking around at what others have come up with on this site.
1 month ago
Cryptolith Rite, Nature's Will, Druids' Repository, and [Bear Umbra] will give repeatable combats. Nature's Will is a bit expensive, so keep Song of Freyalise instead. You can remove Battle for Bretagard, Goblin War Drums, and Mask of Avacyn to use the other three enchantments if repeatable combats is your goal. Otherwise, here are some other great additions:
Cathars' Crusade will make HUGE creatures very quickly. Brave the Sands gives the vigilance needed to take advantage of Cryptolith Rite or have blockers. Impact Tremors will cause lots of pain over time. Raiders' Spoils card draw on steroids. Something you are SORELY lacking.
Kaya, Geist Hunter a great addition that will mostly be used for her -2 ability. Rhythm of the Wild is a good card to be replaced since most of your creatures will be tokens, anyways. If you don't go with Kaya, Cathars' Crusade would probably be a better replacement for Rhythm of the Wild.
Trollbred Guardian and Hamza, Guardian of Arashin requires +1/+1 counters but you don't have very many +1/+1 counters in the deck to take advantage of this. You can remove them and instead use Mindblade Render and Oakhame Adversary for card draw. You need card draw.
Usher of the Fallen and Imperious Perfect are fairly underwhelming. Imperious Perfect is a little better, but I'd at least replace Usher of the Fallen with Rhys the Redeemed. Honestly, I'd use Ogre Battledriver over Imperious Perfect.
Tuya Bearclaw and Hamletback Goliath get big, but they can be chumped VERY easily. Lovisa Coldeyes will buff all your tokens that are harder to chump. You could maybe keep the Hamletback Giant, but Zurgo Helmsmasher or Samut, Voice of Dissent is a good choice in your deck if you decide not to.
Blaring Captain and Blaring Recruiter are also very underwhelming. Chief of the Edge can easily replace the captain, and the recruit can be replaced be literally anything (my vote would be for Impact Tremors if you haven't added it already).
You have A LOT of mana ramp in your deck, but your lacking card draw and removal. I'd maybe remove the Diamonds and add two or three mana rocks that tap for one of any color. That'll give your deck 10-11 forms of mana ramp. If you add three, that'll give room for two forms of card draw. Reconnaissance Mission, Bident of Thassa, Skullclamp, and Vanquisher's Banner are great options.
Be aware that you're sitting at only 30 lands. If you find your have a mana-base problem, I'd take out Radha, Heir to Keld, Duskwatch Recruiter Flip, or ANY of the previously discussed cards and add 3-5 lands. Out of the lands you should also add, I recommend Savage Lands, Arcane Sanctum, Crumbling Necropolis, Jungle Shrine, Nomad Outpost, Mystic Monastery, Path of Ancestry, and Unclaimed Territory.
1 month ago
Jungle Shrine --> Jetmir's Garden
Cemetery Protector --> Jaxis, the Troublemaker
Species Specialist --> Caldaia Guardian
Etchings of the Chosen --> Vampiric Tutor
Wedding Announcement Flip --> Jolene, the Plunder Queen
Judith, the Scourge Diva --> Ognis, the Dragon's Lash
Raiders' Spoils --> Professional Face-Breaker
3 months ago
Hey, I saw your forum topic asking for help.
The manabase and ramp/color fixing could use some tweaking, but more draw is really what your deck needs. That's the area of your deck to consider spending some on for improvements.
- Mentor of the Meek --> Aggressive Mammoth
- Welcoming Vampire --> Mowu, Loyal Companion
- Ripjaw Raptor --> Aetherstorm Roc
- Idol of Oblivion --> Woodland Mystic
- Return of the Wildspeaker --> Leyline of Abundance
- Shamanic Revelation --> Renata, Called to the Hunt
- Harmonize --> Arcus Acolyte
I choose these cards as suggested cuts because you have better cards that do the same or similar effects. More draw especially repeatable draw sources replacing some of this redundancy could help gameplay.
The manabase is overall good except the amount of Forests, which is too many. The ratio of color sources in the manabase is 28 green:16 white:16 red. 28 green is almost double amount of another color which is a little much. Forests are important, you want them as most lands, but I don't think you need 12 of them. Green one drop mana dorks are good, but I don't think only three of them are enough to play so many Forests to hinder the other colors in the chance that you have one in your opening hand with a Forest. Crop Rotation can get any land by sacing a Forest.
Some manabase problems are 12 Forests, the Slow Fetch lands, Aether Hub, Arctic Treeline and Highland Forest. 12 Forest reduces the color fixing from lands too much. Grasslands, Krosan Verge, Mountain Valley are too slow for what they do and are not needed because you have Marsh Flats and Windswept Heath.
Aether Hub is relying too much on three cards that proliferate or Aetherstorm Roc. Consistently Hub won't have enough energy to make colored mana. Arctic Treeline and Highland Forest are nice that they have basic land types, but you don't really need them because you have Shocks and Tangos.
Consider cutting some basic Forests for more budget lands that can make green or another color?
- Crop Rotation --> Aether Hub
- Exotic Orchard --> 1x Forest
- Path of Ancestry --> 1x Forest
- Jungle Shrine --> 1x Forest
- Game Trail --> 1x Forest
- Fortified Village --> 1x Forest
- Battlefield Forge --> Krosan Verge
- Naya Panorama --> Grasslands
- Opal Palace --> Mountain Valley
Making these lands changes can balance the ratio of color sources to 26 G:20 W:20 R. This balance keeps the amount of green close to what you have currently while increasing the amount of white and red. Of course most of these are the least expensive price playable lands that you could add. There's many others that are more price/better lands.
Good luck with your deck.
4 months ago
5 months ago
Hey there! Not sure how your mana-base is faring, but here are a few suggestions, as manabases in a five color deck can be very difficult.
Run all of the tri lands! I hate tap lands, trust me, but with the first sliver at the head I'm willing to bet you want him out as fast as possible. You're running most of them, but I'd recommend getting your hands on the others: Arcane Sanctum, Jungle Shrine, Nomad Outpost, and Sandsteppe Citadel.
Of course, the Ikora triomes would be awesome, but they can be a bit much per land if you have a smaller budget. For reference, here they are: Savai Triome, Ketria Triome, Indatha Triome, Raugrin Triome, Zagoth Triome.
Not sure how you feel about these, but something else to consider would be the 5 panoramas from wherever it was they were first printed. Having that choice of fetch without spending money on the big fetches can be a really big asset in many games: Naya Panorama, Jund Panorama, Grixis Panorama, Esper Panorama, and Bant Panorama.
I'm sure you're aware of these, but in case you aren't, there are of course the expensive duals and fetch lands. The fetches (like for example, Bloodstained Mire) are incredibly powerful. They give you the power of choice between yes, the two colors, but beyond that virtually any color you wanted if you ran all the shock lands (like Stomping Ground). If you drew that Bloodstained Mire and needed a green, you could fetch Stomping Ground and boom, you have it. Of course, that is quite a lot of money, but if you weren't aware of them, it's a good thing to keep in mind. On a side note, the fetches are even more extremely powerful as they go to your graveyard, allowing you to recur them (with say, Ramunap Excavator) and get tons of landfall triggers per turn.
Some others are ones that add any color- like these are probably by far the best. Here's some that come to my mind. Ancient Ziggurat, City of Brass, Mana Confluence. Cascading Cataracts/Crystal Quarry are also definitely worth it for the big ol Sliver.
You don't seem to have too much ramp in the deck besides the 3 green guys and a bit of Artifact ramp. Not sure how much you need more, but some I'd recommend are Fellwar Stone, Ornithopter of Paradise, Three Visits/Nature's Lore if you add the shock lands (like Stomping Ground, etc., then you can use these to find any color), Noble Hierarch, Ignoble Hierarch, Bloom Tender (adds one of each when big sliver is out!!), Birds of Paradise, definitely Arcane Signet, Sylvan Caryatid, etc. The dorks aren't slivers, but they are really really crucial in adding any color. It is a bit much of green though, which is probably not something you want to do, so maybe pick and choose wisely- especially if you replace the green ones I mentioned before (maybe not all of them). Let me know if you'd like some more of these kinds of ramp suggestions.
Anyways, I've got some stuff to do so I'll leave it at that for now- I'm not gonna read through this so sorry for any grammar errors too. Hope some of this is helpful, and insightful. Feel free to check out some of my decks (main one is Double Trouble EDH ⫸PRIMER⫷), and let me know if you have any questions or want some help. Best of luck with your deck, and have a wonderful evening.
edit: most of the slivers and all look good there's a couple things I'd swap no biggies, small things like maybe consider Kindred Discovery or Toski if you like Bident of Thassa) but that looks all good!
7 months ago
Hey, well done on a budget while having Overlord, First, Legion and Hivelord. The area of your deck that needs the most improvements is the manabase and lands are my first budget suggestions to consider.
Exotic Orchard, Unclaimed Territory and Path of Ancestry are three more Rainbow lands. The five Battle lands have good interaction with lots of basic lands: Canopy Vista, Cinder Glade, Sunken Hollow, Prairie Stream and Smoldering Marsh. You're better off playing more Tri lands than the Thriving lands: Jungle Shrine, Savage Lands, Seaside Citadel, Crumbling Necropolis, Opulent Palace, etc.
A Tri land gives you three choices of colors, not two, which is better when playing five colors. Being able to choose the second color with a Thriving land is nice, but with five colors not as good as having three choices. If you have the Pathways then that's good, but if not they're too expensive price for lands for five colors since you can only choose one color of mana with them. The Battle lands could replace them.
Cloudshredder Sliver is a two drop Sliver that gives flying and haste, it's one of the best Slivers. Shifting Sliver makes all Sliver unblockable unless an opponent controls some Slivers. Quick Sliver lets you cast Slivers at instant speed during your opponents turns or at any point of the game. Flash is excellent with The First Sliver getting to cascade at instant speed is powerful because the card you cast from cascade doesn't have timing restrictions meaning you can cast any card.
Crypt Sliver can protect Slivers from most board wipes, from removal that destroys, from dying in combat from damage and interacts well with vigilance from Sentinel Sliver. Hibernation Sliver can protect from all board wipes, other removal most importantly exile for the cost of 2 life each Sliver.
Hibernation interacts well with The First Sliver by bouncing it as well as other Slivers to cast again and cascade again. Dormant Sliver has nice interaction with Hibernation because Dormant can draw a ton of cards and when you want to attack with Slivers bounce Dormant with Hibernation.
Diffusion Sliver helps to protect Slivers from targeted removal, making an opponent have to pay two more mana to target a Sliver. Striking Sliver is another one drop Sliver and first strike is nice to have when attacking.
Amoeboid Changeling is a Sliver because Changelings are all creature types even when in your hand, library or graveyard. Amoebiod has really good interaction with Sliver Overlord because Overlord can gain control of a Sliver. Amoeboid can make any opponent's creature who you can target a Sliver and then Overlord can gain control of that creature permanently. This is especially powerful to gain control of opponents Commanders. These two combine to gain control of all your opponents creatures over a course of many turns. Because Amoeboid is a Silver while in your library then Overlord can tutor for it.
If interested I offer more advice including cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.
9 months ago
Hey, there's not much to say yet as this is just a list of cards you want to play, nice Swordtooth. Most of what you have so far on the low budget is good, but Decree of Savagery is not playable and Sun-Crested Pterodon, Elfhame Palace, Stone Quarry are really lackluster.
Do you own Gishath? I don't see him here, but I do see Atla. If you don't own Gishath then he's really not worth getting for $20 if you're on such a low budget. Atla is a fine Commander for Dinos and you have her. For $20 you could get many budget cards that are good with Atla rather than just Gishath.
Atla and Gishath will play very differently. Gishath is more straight forward, ramp and Dinos. Atla is more complex since you want ramp, sac outlets for Eggs and Dinos. Marauding Raptor is a combo Dino with Atla to kill an Egg right when it ETB. It also triggers enrage when a Dino ETB.
Some budget Dinos to consider adding:
- Marauding Raptor
- Quartzwood Crasher
- Apex Altisaur
- Ripjaw Raptor
- Thrasta, Tempest's Roar
- The Tarrasque
- Runic Armasaur
- Thrashing Brontodon
- Ranging Raptors
Some budget cards that have good interactions with Atla and/or Dinos or are ramp:
- Mirror Entity: is a Dino, is an Egg, can turn all creatures you control into Eggs, is a sac outlet.
- Garruk's Uprising: repeatable draw when Dinos ETB and give all Dinos trample.
- Goblin Bombardment: sac outlet for Eggs and each Egg that's saced can do 1 damage to another Egg to kill it too.
- Swiftfoot Boots: haste and hexproof protection for Atla.
- Arcane Signet: staple budget mana rock.
- Fellwar Stone
- Fertile Ground
- Wild Growth
- Farseek with Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista and Alpine Meadow.
- Forerunner of the Empire: puts the Dino on the top of your library to then sac an Egg. It can also kill Eggs.
- Mwonvuli Beast Tracker: puts the Dino with trample on the top of your library to then sac an Egg.
- High Market: sac outlet.
- Tyrite Sanctum: repeatable to make Atla bigger with +1/+1 counters and then give her indestructible.
- Fanatical Devotion: sac outlet and protection from most removal.
- Court of Bounty: can cheat a Dino from your hand onto the battlefield as well as be repeatable draw at your end step.
- Battlemage's Bracers: haste and double the Egg trigger of Atla.
- Fires of Yavimaya: haste enabler for all creatures you control including tokens.
Some budget land upgrades to consider:
- Exotic Orchard
- Path of Ancestry
- Jungle Shrine
- Opal Palace: cast Atla with it to give her one or more +1/+1 counter.
- Unclaimed Territory
- High Market
- Tyrite Sanctum
- Battlefield Forge
- Cinder Glade
- Canopy Vista
- Alpine Meadow
- Game Trail
- Fortified Village
Good luck with your deck.