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thefiresoflurve on Naya Populate True
2 months ago
Welcome to big board state club! (I used to run G/W populate back in the day).
Disclaimer: not sure what your budget is for recommendations, so I'm going to go by what I see here (Dockside, Smothering Tithe, Parallel Lives level of cost for individual recommendations).
I think Ghired, Conclave Exile would make a better commander here than Palladia-Mors, unless you're tied to the latter for sentimentality/flavor/etc.
Next, land base. The single best thing I did for my Esper deck was upgrading my land base. You don't have to go super hard here to see results, but I would put together a list like: 1x Cabaretti Courtyard 1x Command Tower 1x Jungle Shrine 1x Sungrass Prairie 1x Rockfall Vale 1x Branchloft Pathway Flip 1x Needleverge Pathway Flip 1x Rogue's Passage 1x Kessig Wolf Run 1x Gavony Township. If you like this route, there are even more cheaper dual lands you can add in like the Temple of Triumph and friends.
There are a few cuts or substitutions that I think the main deck could make really easily:
Ultramarines Honour Guard -> Caller of the Pack. If Ghired attacks with a creature that has Myriad, he can populate the token that Myriad creates, but the Populated token forgets about the exile clause. Thus, you can end up with a theoretically infinite horde of creatures. It's fantastic. :D
Going off that last bit... Wayfaring Temple -> Treasure. Basically a great card in commander anyway, here it's a free win if you manage to clone it.
Growing Ranks is an easy cut. It's way too slow for EDH (compare it to Parallel Lives...) Could replace it with a Talisman of Conviction or friends to help you ramp faster.
I would replace Momentous Fall with Teferi's Protection or Akroma's Will or Grand Crescendo - some extra source of board wipe dodging. I don't think your creatures are really big enough to warrant a momentous fall.
I would also replace Druid's Deliverance with one of the aforementioned board wipe dodges. There are also some cheaper options like Your Temple is Under Attack, Unbreakable Formation, Make a Stand. Reasoning being: you should have enough board state to block things that want to hurt you, as long as you keep your board alive.
As far as making tokens sooner: well, if you want to do that, you're going to have to run some cheaper creatures.... or ramp faster. I'd probably opt for ramping faster, TBH, since your creatures are really cool. If you add the entire Gruul Signet and friends, along with the Talismans I mentioned earlier, that should get you to the minimum ramp package in tricolor EDH to make sure you can play quickly.
Naya Charm -> Artifact Mutation can help make some earlier tokens.
Brindle Shoat and Call of the Conclave are some decent options for turn 3 tokens you might consider, as well. But adding those would also require cutting other stuff.... horrible choice I don't envy you : P
Sorry for the wall of text...Hope that helps, and happy building!
Alesamuel on Jodah Big Spell
5 months ago
I would recommend some of the Eldrazi titans, such as Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger as some big top end bombs. Some ramp creatures wouldn't go amiss either, such as Birds of Paradise, and Dryad of the Ilysian Grove.
In terms of Instants, Sorceries, and Enchantments, getting some more of the Ultimatum cycle (Brilliant Ultimatum, Cruel Ultimatum, Emergent Ultimatum) might be a good idea, and Sunbird's Invocation would be a good idea too if you are casting such big CMC cards.
Another recommended addition would be Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh as it is just a straight up good card for the colour and big mana theme.
I'd recommend replacing the tapped tri-lands (Arcane Sanctum, Crumbling Necropolis, Frontier Bivouac, Jungle Shrine, Mystic Monastery, Nomad Outpost, Opulent Palace, Sandsteppe Citadel, Savage Lands, and Seaside Citadel) with the shock land cycle (Blood Crypt, Breeding Pool, Godless Shrine, Hallowed Fountain, Overgrown Tomb, Sacred Foundry, Steam Vents, Stomping Ground, Temple Garden, and Watery Grave) as they are easier to fetch for or find with ramp spells.
Final notes: Give the deck a little more of a creature focus, having as few as you have right now you'll find there is very little to hit with your reanimation, but other then that, good job on the first draft! looking forward to see how it plays out!
multimedia on Budget Slivers
6 months ago
Hey, nice version so far for well under $100.
40 lands is a lot, consider cutting some for some more low mana cost ramp for five colors to help gameplay?
- Manaweft Sliver --> Cabaretti Courtyard
- Sol Ring --> Traveler's Amulet
- Fellwar Stone --> Obscura Storefront
- Commander's Sphere --> Maestros Theater
Manaweft Sliver is the other staple mana dork Sliver. Sol Ring is staple budget mana rock in Commander. On a low budget and playing five colors Commander's Sphere is fine.
- Evolving Wilds --> Riveteers Overlook
- Terramorphic Expanse --> Brokers Hideout
Because playing five colors then Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are better than the New Capenna fetches. Wilds or Expanse can get any type basic land not just one of three types.
- Unclaimed Territory --> 1x Forest
Unclaimed Territory is a helpful land when playing so many different colored Slivers and it enters the battlefield untapped.
- Yavimaya Coast --> 1x Forest
- Shivan Reef --> 1x Mountain
- Karplusan Forest --> 1x Forest
- Caves of Koilos --> 1x Plains
- Adarkar Wastes --> 1x Plains
- Sulfurous Springs --> 1x Mountain
Some of the Pain lands got reprinted in the newest set Dominaria United and those lands are down to $2 or less each right now. Pain lands enter the battlefield untapped to make colorless or colored mana to speed up gameplay. By replacing some basic lands with more dual lands that can enter the battlefield untapped that can make the color of the basic land it replaced or another color this can improve gameplay as well as color fixing.
- Farseek --> Rampant Growth
- Cinder Glade --> 1x Forest
- Canopy Vista --> 1x Plains
- Sunken Hollow --> 1x Island
The Tango lands are other budget lands that care about basic lands. These lands are good with Farseek, land ramp that can better color fix.
After these land changes, example upgraded budget 36 land five color manabase (20 G, 17 W, 17 R, 15 U, 14 B):
- 4x Forest
- 4x Plains
- 3x Mountain
- 2x Swamp
- 1x Island
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Path of Ancestry
- Unclaimed Territory
- Evolving Wilds
- Terramorphic Expanse
- Frontier Bivouac
- Jungle Shrine
- Mystic Monastery
- Opulent Palace
- Sandsteppe Citadel
- Savage Lands
- Seaside Citadel
- Yavimaya Coast
- Shivan Reef
- Karplusan Forest
- Caves of Koilos
- Adarkar Wastes
- Sulfurous Springs
- Cinder Glade
- Canopy Vista
- Sunken Hollow
This advice was just about improving the manabase and ramp, if you're interested I offer more advice on other areas. Would you like more advice?
Good luck with your deck.
Eldmoi on Ur-gonomics
9 months ago
Hey Decidares! This started as a pre-con and I swapped some cards around with my inventory. I'm thinking I want to keep it between casual and competitive just to start since I'm not really sure where I'd be playing this and what power levels the other players at my LGS are playing at. I'd say mid to late game wins could be the most rewarding as other players at the table would have built up their battlefield and have an intimidating presence at the table as well. As for my budget I'd like to keep it below $300 for now.
I'm checking with my LGS to see if they have some tri-colored lands that enter tapped like Jungle Shrine and also throwing in catch-all's like Secluded Courtyard, Unclaimed Territory and The World Tree. Might add some more dragons that could improve the deck like Tiamat, Lathliss, Dragon Queen, Scion of the Ur-Dragon and Dragonborn Champion after looking around at what others have come up with on this site.
FelixCarter on You'll be Najello after I'm done with you
10 months ago
Cryptolith Rite, Nature's Will, Druids' Repository, and [Bear Umbra] will give repeatable combats. Nature's Will is a bit expensive, so keep Song of Freyalise instead. You can remove Battle for Bretagard, Goblin War Drums, and Mask of Avacyn to use the other three enchantments if repeatable combats is your goal. Otherwise, here are some other great additions:
Cathars' Crusade will make HUGE creatures very quickly. Brave the Sands gives the vigilance needed to take advantage of Cryptolith Rite or have blockers. Impact Tremors will cause lots of pain over time. Raiders' Spoils card draw on steroids. Something you are SORELY lacking.
Kaya, Geist Hunter a great addition that will mostly be used for her -2 ability. Rhythm of the Wild is a good card to be replaced since most of your creatures will be tokens, anyways. If you don't go with Kaya, Cathars' Crusade would probably be a better replacement for Rhythm of the Wild.
Trollbred Guardian and Hamza, Guardian of Arashin requires +1/+1 counters but you don't have very many +1/+1 counters in the deck to take advantage of this. You can remove them and instead use Mindblade Render and Oakhame Adversary for card draw. You need card draw.
Replace Mardu Shadowspear with Brutal Hordechief
Usher of the Fallen and Imperious Perfect are fairly underwhelming. Imperious Perfect is a little better, but I'd at least replace Usher of the Fallen with Rhys the Redeemed. Honestly, I'd use Ogre Battledriver over Imperious Perfect.
Rubblebelt Raiders is nice, but Champion of Lambholt will make your creatures unlockable just as fast.
Tuya Bearclaw and Hamletback Goliath get big, but they can be chumped VERY easily. Lovisa Coldeyes will buff all your tokens that are harder to chump. You could maybe keep the Hamletback Giant, but Zurgo Helmsmasher or Samut, Voice of Dissent is a good choice in your deck if you decide not to.
Blaring Captain and Blaring Recruiter are also very underwhelming. Chief of the Edge can easily replace the captain, and the recruit can be replaced be literally anything (my vote would be for Impact Tremors if you haven't added it already).
You have A LOT of mana ramp in your deck, but your lacking card draw and removal. I'd maybe remove the Diamonds and add two or three mana rocks that tap for one of any color. That'll give your deck 10-11 forms of mana ramp. If you add three, that'll give room for two forms of card draw. Reconnaissance Mission, Bident of Thassa, Skullclamp, and Vanquisher's Banner are great options.
Instead of Fracture, I recommend Despark. Mortify is a better Murder but can also be upgraded by switching to Utter End.
Replace Warped Landscape with Secluded Courtyard.
Be aware that you're sitting at only 30 lands. If you find your have a mana-base problem, I'd take out Radha, Heir to Keld, Duskwatch Recruiter Flip, or ANY of the previously discussed cards and add 3-5 lands. Out of the lands you should also add, I recommend Savage Lands, Arcane Sanctum, Crumbling Necropolis, Jungle Shrine, Nomad Outpost, Mystic Monastery, Path of Ancestry, and Unclaimed Territory.
montanaflash23 on Saskia, the Amazon
10 months ago
Jungle Shrine --> Jetmir's Garden
Cemetery Protector --> Jaxis, the Troublemaker
Species Specialist --> Caldaia Guardian
Etchings of the Chosen --> Vampiric Tutor
Wedding Announcement Flip --> Jolene, the Plunder Queen
Judith, the Scourge Diva --> Ognis, the Dragon's Lash
Raiders' Spoils --> Professional Face-Breaker
multimedia on Stomping Counters
1 year ago
Hey, I saw your forum topic asking for help.
The manabase and ramp/color fixing could use some tweaking, but more draw is really what your deck needs. That's the area of your deck to consider spending some on for improvements.
- Mentor of the Meek --> Aggressive Mammoth
- Welcoming Vampire --> Mowu, Loyal Companion
- Ripjaw Raptor --> Aetherstorm Roc
- Idol of Oblivion --> Woodland Mystic
- Return of the Wildspeaker --> Leyline of Abundance
- Shamanic Revelation --> Renata, Called to the Hunt
- Harmonize --> Arcus Acolyte
I choose these cards as suggested cuts because you have better cards that do the same or similar effects. More draw especially repeatable draw sources replacing some of this redundancy could help gameplay.
The manabase is overall good except the amount of Forests, which is too many. The ratio of color sources in the manabase is 28 green:16 white:16 red. 28 green is almost double amount of another color which is a little much. Forests are important, you want them as most lands, but I don't think you need 12 of them. Green one drop mana dorks are good, but I don't think only three of them are enough to play so many Forests to hinder the other colors in the chance that you have one in your opening hand with a Forest. Crop Rotation can get any land by sacing a Forest.
Some manabase problems are 12 Forests, the Slow Fetch lands, Aether Hub, Arctic Treeline and Highland Forest. 12 Forest reduces the color fixing from lands too much. Grasslands, Krosan Verge, Mountain Valley are too slow for what they do and are not needed because you have Marsh Flats and Windswept Heath.
Aether Hub is relying too much on three cards that proliferate or Aetherstorm Roc. Consistently Hub won't have enough energy to make colored mana. Arctic Treeline and Highland Forest are nice that they have basic land types, but you don't really need them because you have Shocks and Tangos.
Consider cutting some basic Forests for more budget lands that can make green or another color?
- Crop Rotation --> Aether Hub
- Exotic Orchard --> 1x Forest
- Path of Ancestry --> 1x Forest
- Jungle Shrine --> 1x Forest
- Game Trail --> 1x Forest
- Fortified Village --> 1x Forest
- Battlefield Forge --> Krosan Verge
- Naya Panorama --> Grasslands
- Opal Palace --> Mountain Valley
Making these lands changes can balance the ratio of color sources to 26 G:20 W:20 R. This balance keeps the amount of green close to what you have currently while increasing the amount of white and red. Of course most of these are the least expensive price playable lands that you could add. There's many others that are more price/better lands.
Good luck with your deck.
tylorlilley on Ghired
1 year ago
IN: Reflecting Pool, Spectator Seating, Needleverge Pathway Flip, Cragcrown Pathway Flip, Branchloft Pathway Flip
OUT: Cinder Glade, Inspiring Vantage, Jungle Shrine, Path of Ancestry, Temple of Abandon
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