Stroke of Genius
Target player draws X cards.
|Want (3)||Wylyam , Darui , Corpse_Casanova|
Printings View all
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Rare|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Rare|
|Urza's Saga (USG)||Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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- Jace, Wielder of Mysteries + Stroke of Genius
- Stroke of Genius + Thassa's Oracle
- Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter + Stroke of Genius
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Stroke of Genius Discussion
2 days ago
Gamble and Intuition are a bit harder to recommend a 1x1 exchange of cards, as both of them would really like you to also run Underworld Breach (note that Intuition is already super busted on its own), so I'd suggest putting Breach in as well. I Suggest removing Thought Scour, Reality Spasm, and Pirate's Pillage. My reasoning for these choices is that I believe they are cards that don't really perform very well on the deck and can be taken out for this package. Pirate's Pillage nets you 1 mana when you have Mizzix out and that's very nice, but if you got Mizzix out with 3 counters already you're very much on your way to winning the game, while on other situations this card doensn't feel very nice, especially if it is countered. Reality Spasm also nets you mana, but you need Mizzix out with 3+ counters for that and if that's the case you can probably search your Turnabout. Thought Scour just wasn't doing enough for me, messing up a tutor now and then is nice, but most of the time I just wish I could have used this 1 mana for something else.
Underworld Breach wins you the game with Bonus Round and Frantic Search. Cast Bonus Round and then Frantic Search, with your floating mana cast Breach and the Frantic Search from the grave. Each cast will net you 1 mana and 1 extra card in the grave, envetually you'll find Reiterate and Seething Song, generate infinite mana returning Reiterate to your hand with buyback and mill everyone with Stroke of Genius or whatever. As p0megranates eloquently explains on the guide, once you get to this point winning the game is easy.
For Intuition you'll probably want to check the deck to see if there is a 3 card pile that wins you the game, as of right now I don't think so. But adding Mizzix's Mastery enables the following pile:Mizzix's Mastery, Past in Flames, Enter the Infinite.
If they give you Enter the Infinite, flashback Past in Flames, flashback Intuition searching Faithless Looting or Frantic Search or any discard outlet. Discard Enter the Infinite and flashback Mizzix's Mastery for Enter the Infinite.
2 days ago
Hey, for less than $150 you've done well with your version. You clearly know how to build a Commander deck with a low budget.
Cards that are $3 or less each to consider adding:
- Tutors: Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Sarkhan's Triumph, Shared Summons, Crop Rotation
- Draw: Temur Ascendancy, Dragonlord Ojutai(Mystery Booster version)
- Ramp: Faeburrow Elder
- Lands: Cascading Cataracts, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Unclaimed Territory, Sunken Hollow, Prairie Stream
Scion of the Ur-Dragon is a very good Dragon as a repeatable Dragon tutor and it combos with Teneb, the Harvester + Bladewing the Risen to reanimate the Dragons you tutor for. Consider cutting some of the least good Dragons for a few creature tutors that can search for the better Dragons?
Temur Ascendancy does a lot for a three drop, haste for all creatures you control and repeatable draw when most Dragons ETB including Dragon tokens with 4 or more power. These land suggestions would add five more lands that can ETB untapped meaning they could replace five lands that always ETB tapped. Cascading Cataracts is helpful with Jodah/Fist letting you for five mana of any colors plus tapping Cataracts to cast any card.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Vivid Crag
- Vivid Creek
- Vivid Grove
- Vivid Marsh
- Vivid Meadow
- Make a Stand
- Stroke of Genius
- Distant Melody
- Hedron Archive
- Boneyard Scourge
- Tyrant's Familiar
- Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury
Even on a budget the Vivid lands are not good unless you have proliferate to put more counters on them and I don't recommend adding proliferate just for the Vivids.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Some cards that you might like: Brallin, Skyshark Rider Flip, Shabraz, the Skyshark, Rielle, the Everwise, The Locust God, Psychosis Crawler, Burning Inquiry, Molten Psyche, Narset, Parter of Veils, Alms Collector, a Niv-Mizzet of your choice perhaps, Fevered Visions, Magus of the Jar, Wheel of Fate, Teferi's Puzzle Box, Winds of Change and I'll stop myself there lol.
Something you could do that might be cool would be to run a lot of cards like Dictate of Kruphix, Kami of the Crescent Moon, and Howling Mine to boost everybody's draw (might make them consider not killing you lol). That would rip the rug out from under everybody and make your wheels that much more impactful. Make them discard 12 cards instead of 6 or 7! Plus you're getting them closer to drawing on an empty deck.
As far as card draw goes, my favorites are targeted X spells like Blue Sun's Zenith and Stroke of Genius as they could always be upgraded to kill tools with an infinite source of mana i.e. Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter and I just like them a lot. If you decided to pursue group draw you could also experiment with stuff like Prosperity, Minds Aglow, and Fascination (you said you like options right?). Along with this I would add to your ability to win off of self mill with Thassa's Oracle and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries so that Lab Man has some friends.
I know you're running some recursion yourself but this deck has the potential to seriously fuel opposing decks with heavy graveyard interaction as their motif, for obvious reasons lol. Since you have have access to white you could always try Rest in Peace for the complete shutdown, and then maybe a Grafdigger's Cage just as another piece of graveyard hate. Alternatively, you might prefer cards with one time effects like Relic of Progenitus and Scavenger Grounds.. or you could mix and match! Up to you.
FINALLY, (yes I know, we're finally at the end) I would honestly just replace many of the dual lands you have that come in tapped with basics. I just personally don't enjoy having my lands come in tapped while everyone else gets ahead, and I really feel like basics are actually better than tapped lands even if they don't have the versatility or effects. Of course shocks and duals and fetches would always be nice, but we're trying to stay in budget so I'd just stick to the basics.
I know it's long but I just really enjoy researching cards and learning about different strats so I usually get carried away. I tried to stick with recommendations that stay under $10 but a few over the limit might've slipped through. I like your deck, hope this helped! :^)
3 weeks ago
This is good stuff. You've pretty much got all the good mill you'd want in a deck like this. Here's a list of things I'd take out and put in and I'll explain after:
Take out - 1 Arcane Denial, 2 Nyx Lotus, 3 Sky Diamond, 4 Soul-Guide Lantern, 5 Tribute Mage, 6 Solemn Simulacrum, 7 Fraying Sanity, 8 Fleet Swallower or 9 Sphinx Mindbreaker, 10 Reality Shift, 11 Dig Through Time.
I'll try to be brief with all of this. For 1 I think Muddle is better for your deck, especially if you decide to add in Grindstone + Painter's Servant . 2 I don't think is a great source of ramp (It costs 4 mana to cast AND comes in tapped AND you aren't even guaranteed to get value out of it. It all depends on whether or not you're having a good game. You could play this turn 4, not get to use it til turn 5 since it's tapped, AND still maybe only get 1 or 2 mana out of it. Oh, and because of its high cost it's going to be a juicy target for removal. If it gets blown up you basically just skipped a turn. So much for being brief huh lol). 3 same as 2. Extraplanar Lens (not at all a budget buy I know) is killer in mono decks with snow lands, and you've already got the snows. Sapphire Medallion would just be better than 3. 4 you have enough graveyard hate. 5 you don't have impactful enough 2 cost artifacts to warrant this. Also Muddle. 6 you have enough ramp and don't need to mana fix. 7 I just feel is too targeted and might turn you into the table's bad guy if you weren't already. I'd just focus on the effects that apply to everyone or don't necessarily only apply to one player. 8 and 9 I don't feel like these are particularly necessary for winning but they're big and fun so I'd keep one and lose the other. 10 I just don't think you need. 11 some of your mills synergize with drawing and this doesn't draw. Good card, but I think for you Stroke of Genius and Blue Sun's Zenith will do you better. Additionally they can be combined with invite mana i.e. Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter to mill out your opponents or mill out yourself. Crawlspace and Propaganda I feel do too much for you to pass up. I know you already have one of them in your maybeboard, but I think you need more defensive cards in your 99 so you don't get tag teamed as soon as you drop some of your more threatening toys. You know as soon as you play something like Mindcrank or Mesmeric Orb or hell even your commander, the table probably isn't going to be cool with you doing that lol. You just want to make attacking you a pain and use counters to handle the rest. Finally, Thassa's Oracle is good for self mill.
Sorry if I'm a bit all over the place, but I wrote this little by little throughout the day in between doing different things so I'd have to keep coming back and remember where I was and yeah lol. Hope I helped though. It's a cool deck and I'd hope to at least give you some ideas to work with. :^)
3 weeks ago
First off: for a first EDH deck this looks pretty well-rounded! My suggestions for cards to add are:
Rampant Growth. Similarly to my last suggestion, this card is basically just another version of one you are already running: Farseek. Because of the nature of the format, being singleton and all, you usually want as many "copies" of powerful cards as you can in a deck.
Stroke of Genius. Good rate for card draw, allows you to basically trade mana for cards at any level you want.
Jegantha, the Wellspring. I knoooow you don't want a companion, but you can just run this card in the 99 and make your commander activate for soooo cheap.
Illusionist's Bracers. Tack this onto Sisay and you win super quickly. It's as simple as that...
as for what to take out... you'll need to ask someone else ;)
1 month ago
You should be running Elemental Bond and Garruk's Uprising you're almost always paying 3 or more into x so they're great. Vastwood Hydra might be a better creature than some of your choices. Curse of the Swine would be neat as creature removal. Capricopian is an amazing hydra that will bounce around your opponents getting bigger till they run out of mana. If you're not on a budget is suggest Doubling Season and Kalonian Hydra for obvious reasons. Then there's x card draw like Blue Sun's Zenith, Thassa's Intervention, Mind Spring, Pull from Tomorrow, or Stroke of Genius. Honestly I'd suggest any of the intervention cards, they're excellent. Think about replacing one of your non basics with Zagoth Triome and Opulent Palace and maybe Sunken Hollow
So as for cuts. Trophy Mage, Umbral Mantle, Basalt Monolith, Altar of Dementia, I'd suggest ditching some artifact rocks for some green land ramp like Farseek or Rampant Growth, and take out a few of your artifact rocks in general because you're in green and your ramp already is solid. Reclamation Sage, Elixir of Immortality, Vorel of the Hull Clade, Nimbus Swimmer. Now I would like to say that I'm not trying to hate on your deck, I quite like the concept, but I do think you need to hone in on your strategy, play an x card, make a hydra, draw into the next x card, cast that card, make another hydra. It's a great deck and I enjoy the way you built it, just trying to do as you said and help you cut some cards, and at the same time I wanted to point out a couple things you might've missed
1 month ago
Your lack of proper wincon might net you a lot of hate at the table. You can Armageddon and Winter Orb all day, but if you don't have some method of breaking parity and killing the table, ultimately all you're doing is dragging out the game and not making much progress. Maybe that's your goal though.. to just make everyone suffer and regret playing the game, and if that's the case more power to you! Perhaps your friends deserve such a fate. :^) But I would recommend adding in some general wincons to actually end everyone's misery and let them know you came to win instead of just making them dread a 2 hour game where nobody wins lol.
Infinite mana combos like Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter and Grand Architect + Pili-Pala plus X cost targeted draw spells like Blue Sun's Zenith and Stroke of Genius make for either humorous yet fair ways of milling an opponent to death in one turn, or milling yourself with pieces like Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, Laboratory Maniac, and Thassa's Oracle to just straight up win the game. If you wanted to push your budget there's also the dirty Grindstone + Painter's Servant combo to, again, mill people to death. Then, after all that, you'd want to add in artifact tutors to fetch your filthy combo pieces and close the game out before people begin to complain about your gloriously oppressive board state. Cards like Fabricate, Tezzeret the Seeker, and Whir of Invention would do nicely. You could also run Muddle the Mixture as a flex card that could either be used to keep your opponents from getting to use their toys, or to again fetch your combo pieces i.e. Isochron, Pili-Pala, Thassa's Oracle, Painter's Servant if you wanted, etc. I'd be more than happy to help optimize this deck in budget if you wanted. :^) Just let me know.
1 month ago
I’m sure it could be used somewhere. I was just thinking about trying a Food Chain deck and seeing if Ballista worked as a finisher for that. Ballista makes for a great infinite mana finisher. But I guess there’s lots of decent finishers with infinite mana Blue Sun's Zenith is one I want to build around. And it’s lesser version Stroke of Genius.