Relentless Rats

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Relentless Rats

Creature — Rat

This gets +1/+1 for each other creature on the battlefield named Relentless Rats.

A deck can have any number of cards named Relentless Rats.

TheOfficialCreator on You'll be lost in a cloud, With too much rain!

7 months ago

Ambiorix69 your playgroup is misinformed. You may have any number of Shadowborn Apostles in your deck, as the card text overrides the rules of the format just as it would for Modern or Legacy, or any other format. There are entire decks built around Relentless Rats in Commander :)

griffstick on Orphans

7 months ago

I got one for you.

And no one is playing it. It's not because it's bad either. Sunstone

Ok now I will share a card like what you are looking for.

That card is Relentless Rats this card has been outclassed by Rat Colony

TheoryCrafter on Card creation challenge

10 months ago

Clarion Ultimatum is playable in EDH. The problem is it only works if you're running a tribal of 3 or more colors of advisor(due to Persistent Petitioners), demon (due to Shadowborn Apostle) or rat deck (due to Relentless Rats and Rat Colony). Or as a finisher in a five color landfall deck. But a challenge is a challenge.

Clarion Ultimatum



Search Your library for five permanents. You may put any number of them them on the battlefield tapped and the rest into your hand.

Create a Un-Set card with this Flavor text: "Alexa, initiate the self-destruct sequence."

If you wish, you may replace Alexa with Garl.

Samothrace on Chewer of Krenko’s bones

1 year ago

Lol obviously rat colony rocks in the deck. I don’t have it currently due to budget. Also I’m trying to see what I can do without it and Relentless Rats. Thanks for the suggestion!

TypicalTimmy on New EDH mechanic - Treachery

1 year ago

So, my understanding is that color identity refers to mana symbols present anywhere on a card. This is why a Commander such as Alesha, Who Smiles at Death is Mardu and not mono-red, because she has on the card, even if it is within her text box. Similarly, this is why Jorn, God of Winter  Flip is actually Sultai, because Kaldring, the Rimestaff is Dimir and still part of the MDFC card.

The reason Extort is unique is because it is within the reminder text, not an activation cost or benefit or anything. Because it is in rules clarification, it was agreed upon that Extort can bend the rules of color identity, slightly.

Now, going on topic of this design, if there is no present, then he isn't Black. He would be mono-white and thus only viable as a mono-white Commander, with rules stipulating that you may include extra cards.

Not unlike how the rules of Relentless Rats work, shifting the singleton into any number. Similarly, how the rules of Grist, the Hunger Tide work to allow him to be your Commander because he is a creature outside of the Battlefield - E.G. your Command Zone.

I suspect that if WOTC printed 5 mono-color Treachery cards, one for each primary color, there'd be a ton of backlash and questioning and then a slurry of videos on Youtube would be released and everyone would suddenly accept it for what it is. Then you'd have the community split in twain, half saying it's mechanically fine and a non-issue and the other half saying how broken and dumb it is and why not just make this guy Orzhov and call it what it is.

At the end of the day, people will always find a reason to argue.

I was just looking for potential, untapped design space. That's all.

Stardragon on

1 year ago

Blobby_Bobby Nah it fine a lot of people over look Maelstrom Pulse in EDH because it a singleton format and they read the whole All Other Permanents With The Same Name part and think it not worth it, and often misread as destroy creature instead of nonland permanent. But its great removal in any deck that has and in its colors plus has the added benefit of hurting copy decks, and can utterly shut down token decks and any have any number of this card decks like Relentless Rats, Rat Colony, Shadowborn Apostle or Persistent Petitioners decks

As for the ramp I fixed it but not sure if still needs work

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Card creation challenge

1 year ago

Poisonous Drifter

Creature - Jellyfish

Defender, Deathtouch

Other jellyfish you control have deathtouch.

: Target creature blocks this turn if able.


I do realize that deathtouch is neither existing in white nor blue, but the flavour really makes it work for jellyfish.

I like the idea of jellyfish tribal. We now got a commander and multiple lords. Maybe make a Relentless Rats version for jellyfishes?

Mana_Mythic_Legendary on None

1 year ago

Love the commander: very nice fit with all the colorless cost reduction!

30ish copies, for me: I had 33-34 Relentless Rats in my old Marrow-Gnawer deck. 1 in 3 was good enough odds to make it semi-reliable, but still leave it interesting. I’d accept 3/10 odds if pressed for space, but it depends on how much other stuff you plan on shoehorning into the 99. I wasn’t exactly running MG to spice my games with variety.

Looking at the chart breakdown, 33-34 straddles 70% likelihood if you somehow manage to ripple turn 2? Not bad.

Looking at the decklist, you have a lot of internal synergy. Have you tried playing a few games of goldfish to see if any cards seem overly redundant? Maybe switch out cards of duplicate function that don’t meet the standard you want. You might drop some wheel effects or one of the cost-reducing cards if you’re feeling a lack of removal.

I’d say 7-10 instances of removal tend to be enough if the deck’s efficient, which this certainly looks to be. Too many and I’ve personally felr I’m not actually playing, just taking potshots at other people’s fun. At least, that’s my excuse when removal is chromatically scarce.

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