Void Winnower

Creature — Eldrazi

Your opponents can't cast spells with even converted mana costs. (Zero is even.)

Your opponents can't block with creatures with even converted mana costs/mana values.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (46)

RiotRunner789 on When does Bracket 4 move …

3 weeks ago

Played a game recently with a player known to play absurd decks. I was playing Auntie Ool, Cursewretch modified precon which I would consider bracket 2. Another player was playing Kastral, the Windcrested with a Tempest Hawk theme (also would consider a bracket 2, maybe even 1). No idea what 3rd player played because we didn't get very far (mono white maybe?).

The issue was the 4th player who played his "strong bracket 3" Zhulodok, Void Gorger. Having played him and the deck before, I knew the match wasn't going to be fun but despite the pre-game conversation, he said he was playing bracket 3 (different but aggravating issue).

On turn 3, he played Scorched Ruins which let him cast his commander (Zhulodok, Void Gorger). I convinced one player to blow up his only land to slow him down (Generous Gift). I blew up a land un-tapping artifact with Putrefy. So, he went into turn 4 with no lands. He only had a 3/3 token and his commander.

He dropped an Ancient TombGC, some ramp piece and played Bygone Colossus, which led into Void Winnower and several other cards including Excalibur, Sword of Eden dropping that turn (not in that exact order). He swung for 17 commander damage that turn. He effectively locked myself and the bird player out of the game with winnower. Turn 5 he drops ~20 permanents, including Darksteel Monolith and Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter. He was then able to tutor All is Dust. We all scooped when he cast the board wipe at instant speed before his turn.

This is what leads into my question. When he was exploding on turn 4 and 5, I asked, "How is this not competitive?" To which he replied while obviously annoyed, "Someone would have won by turn 3 already." Has the competitive meta changed so much, that any win post turn 3 isn't cEDH? His build, to me, came off as bracket 5 since it was insanely resilient. Where is the line between bracket 4 and 5?

GregariousG on Manifest the Deadly Disguise

1 year ago

To dylan.575:

Kaust is definitely a commander that screams, “I’m working harder to do my thing than you are.” Yes, the draw of Kaust is the surprise element. There is nothing better than an opponent using panic removal on a manifested land. However, Kaust’s problem is that he supports a draft mechanic. As well, Sultai, particularly {U} and {B}, have more impactful morph creatures. However, there should be more resources as Magic will return to Tarkir in 2025. As well, I’m hoping that Disguise will be an evergreen mechanic. For me, this deck needs more ways to manifest and cloak. Ugin's Mastery, Veiled Ascension, and Mastery of the Unseen pull plenty of weight for me. Though it isn’t a permanent, Hide in Plain Sight is too good to not play.

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You are 100% correct on your assessment for instants and sorceries. My build really wants to manifest and cloak the top card, which makes these two cards types even worse. Because of that, I use permanent types that do similar things to the instants and sorceries that were previously in the deck. The thing I found about Kaust, whether testing, playing, or research, is that Kaust has to make the gameplay experience “fair”. “Fair” for who? Fair for Kaust, and just Kaust. That means Kaust needs to slow down the game and shut off game elements he doesn’t utilize. The biggest change in success was shutting off ETB triggers. ETB triggers are simply too good. Almost every deck is playing a creature with ETB triggers, except Kaust for the most part. That isn’t fair and it shows. Torpor Orb, Hushbringer, and Doorkeeper Thrull are some of the best cards in the deck. You could add more Torpor Orb-effects, but I prefer these two because they have flying. You also notice that I’m playing some stax creatures, like Void Winnower and Yasharn, Implacable Earth. I'm gonna point out Yasharn because I don’t use any sacrifice elements outside of fetchlands. Though yahsarn’s ETB will be shut off, I will gladly pay that price to stop players from sacrificing treasures. I’m to the point where I want to add more stax elements to the deck. I agree with your assessment about “on attack” creatures, except for Phlage, Titan of Fire's Fury. Phlage has been great both with and without a Torpor Orb on the field.

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Your version has cost reduction, which is something I should put back into the deck. I was using Trinisphere but it was just ok. I thought about putting in Hydra Omnivore and Kamahl, Heart of Krosa in my version. I had Silverback Elder and it ended up on my “maybe” list. I’d be careful of Helm of Awakening cause I won’t want to reduce cost for everyone. I’m an old school player but I’m moving away from the auto inclusion of Lightning Greaves and/or Swiftfoot Boots. I’m finding that lots of ramp acts as recursion and protection for {G} decks. What is Dawn Charm doing for you? I cut Expose the Culprit for Teleportation Circle and I have no regrets. Your top end is good. I like the new Eldrazi support that I added to mine. Because my Kaust builds just makes tons of mana, I can just hard cast Eldrazi. Let’s keep helping each other to make Kaust great!

GregariousG on Somebody's Watching Me | *Primer*

1 year ago

To dylan.575:

Kaust is definitely a commander that screams, “I’m working harder to do my thing than you are.” Yes, the draw of Kaust is the surprise element. There is nothing better than an opponent using panic removal on a manifested land. However, Kaust’s problem is that he supports a draft mechanic. As well, Sultai, particularly {U} and {B}, have more impactful morph creatures. However, there should be more resources as Magic will return to Tarkir in 2025. As well, I’m hoping that Disguise will be an evergreen mechanic. For me, this deck needs more ways to manifest and cloak. Ugin's Mastery, Veiled Ascension, and Mastery of the Unseen pull plenty of weight for me. Though it isn’t a permanent, Hide in Plain Sight is too good to not play.

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You are 100% correct on your assessment for instants and sorceries. My build really wants to manifest and cloak the top card, which makes these two cards types even worse. Because of that, I use permanent types that do similar things to the instants and sorceries that were previously in the deck. The thing I found about Kaust, whether testing, playing, or research, is that Kaust has to make the gameplay experience “fair”. “Fair” for who? Fair for Kaust, and just Kaust. That means Kaust needs to slow down the game and shut off game elements he doesn’t utilize. The biggest change in success was shutting off ETB triggers. ETB triggers are simply too good. Almost every deck is playing a creature with ETB triggers, except Kaust for the most part. That isn’t fair and it shows. Torpor Orb, Hushbringer, and Doorkeeper Thrull are some of the best cards in the deck. You could add more Torpor Orb-effects, but I prefer these two because they have flying. You also notice that I’m playing some stax creatures, like Void Winnower and Yasharn, Implacable Earth. I'm gonna point out Yasharn because I don’t use any sacrifice elements outside of fetchlands. Though yahsarn’s ETB will be shut off, I will gladly pay that price to stop players from sacrificing treasures. I’m to the point where I want to add more stax elements to the deck. I agree with your assessment about “on attack” creatures, except for Phlage, Titan of Fire's Fury. Phlage has been great both with and without a Torpor Orb on the field.

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Your version has cost reduction, which is something I should put back into the deck. I was using Trinisphere but it was just ok. I thought about putting in Hydra Omnivore and Kamahl, Heart of Krosa in my version. I had Silverback Elder and it ended up on my “maybe” list. I’d be careful of Helm of Awakening cause I won’t want to reduce cost for everyone. I’m an old school player but I’m moving away from the auto inclusion of Lightning Greaves and/or Swiftfoot Boots. I’m finding that lots of ramp acts as recursion and protection for {G} decks. What is Dawn Charm doing for you? I cut Expose the Culprit for Teleportation Circle and I have no regrets. Your top end is good. I like the new Eldrazi support that I added to mine. Because my Kaust builds just makes tons of mana, I can just hard cast Eldrazi. Let’s keep helping each other to make Kaust great!

TypicalTimmy on Card creation challenge

1 year ago

Peer into the Void {5}{C}{C}

Legendary Enchantment

Whenever you Cascade for the first time each turn, you may instead cast a card that that costs up to {1} mana more.

I sat, looking into the void, the void looked back. Suddenly, I heard a familiar voice. “Don't go back to sleep."

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Quote is from Here. It isn't my cup of tea in terms of writing or story telling, but it had a nice quote I could borrow from for the purposes of the card.

So by making it cost MV7, it triggers Zhulodok, Void Gorger.

Basically what this means is, if you cast an Ulamog's Crusher, instead of being able to Cascade into something MV 7 or less, you could cast another MV 8, or even an MV 9 card such as Void Winnower.

The catch is that this only works on the first instance of Cascade each turn.

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So now that Outlaws of Thunder Junction have introduced us to the whimsy of Cactusfolk, make their first Planeswalker.

scottbaker91 on Budget Meren Eldrazi spawn

2 years ago

I think Hand of Emrakul, Decimator of the Provinces, Kozilek, the Great Distortion, and Pathrazer of Ulamog are too expensive to cast / commander ability for what they do. Some replacement examples would be: Terastodon, Void Winnower, Fleshbag Marauder, Noxious Gearhulk, Ravenous Chupacabra, Plaguecrafter, Eternal Witness, It That Betrays, Woodfall Primus, Acidic Slime, Ob Nixilis, Unshackled, Sepulchral Primordial, Overseer of the Damned, etc.

cards like Dalek Squadron with a sac outlet will get you a lot of Meren counters quickly. cards like Greater Good are great at filling your graveyard and your hand. cards like Oversold Cemetery are great for your low mana creatures and late game expensive creatures. Tragic Slip isn't a very good card for multiplayer commander, unless you are using something like Isochron Scepter

I think your deck is a little heavy on creature token generators, especially your creatures. I know they are there to build up tokens on Meren and to generate mana, in the early game, but they aren't doing much in the mid to late game. Maybe replace a few with some faster reanimator spells like: Living Death, Lifeline (a personal favorite), Necromancy, Animate Dead, Victimize, Rescue from the Underworld, Beacon of Unrest, etc.

Other cards I would consider cutting: Skullbriar, the Walking Grave (too slow imo unless he is your commander), Blisterpod (needs to die to get the token), Pawn of Ulamog, Vorapede, Village Rites, Gray Merchant of Asphodel (starts to shine with lots of reanimator stuff), Woe Strider, Scion Summoner, Brood Monitor, Deathreap Ritual, Commander's Sphere

It's tough to suggest cards for a budget deck. A card that I might consider to be absolutely necessary could require cheaper options in other parts of the deck to make it fit.

leon_bulminot on Volrath, Voltron Reanimator

2 years ago

Not sure what you might cut but if you want some help and unblockables, try a Kormus Bell plus something like Filth, you can turn your lands into a constant pinging source of damage.

I would also swap Void Winnower over to your control portion. Big beefy Eldrazi yes but risky to lose until your board is setup. And even then, he has more Utility as control.

I’d also swap Kozileks, if you have Kozilek, the Great Distortion. Lets you turn stuff like Filth into a counter spell and put it in the graveyard where you need it.

Also, Liliana of the Veil is decent but you can get so much more utility out of Liliana Vess for tutoring or, Liliana of the Dark Realms for land tutor and removal. Plus if you ultimate Dark Realms, you get BIG mana bumps, especially to use with Draco. Using 2 lands to keep him around versus 8.

And since you are so sack heavy, a card to not only dole out damage as you summon black creatures but let you sack and draw cards, and a seriously reduced cost, Ayara, First of Locthwain. Could replace 2 or 3 cards with just her.

Final suggestion and honestly, I am surprised with all the sacking you do here that it isn’t even on the maybe board. Blood Artist. All I need to say there lol

As for what to pull out, check your synergy and self interaction with cards. If two or three cards only interact with themselves, you might need to consider dropping them. I’ve been over the deck list but it could go so many different routes for beef sticks beating things down. Just thoughts to consider while looking for things to pull out. Sometimes one card can complete the function of 2 if you have them.

TheBestMagicCard on Emrakul, the Promised End

2 years ago

Felt weird pushing out Void Winnower, but it's more controlly and staxy, and I guess I'm trying to combo and destroy more than stax...

Azoth2099 on Sen Triplets - Esper Control (Seeking Help)

2 years ago

Iraeus

Okay, so if you're specifically trying to outdo Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait, you're going to have to make sure that you're not being outdone by it's immense card draw & Ramp. Deep Gnome Terramancer, Archivist of Oghma, Esper Sentinel, Alms Collector, Monologue Tax, Smuggler's Share, Consecrated Sphinx, Faerie Mastermind & Ledger Shredder will help accomplish this. Black Market Connections, Scroll Rack, Sensei's Divining Top, Dark Confidant, Dark Tutelage & of course Necropotence are also great card draw options, but won't scale with whatever your opponents are doing. Tithe, Gift of Estates & Land Tax are generically great, but extra great in this context.

Consider Rule of Law, Arcane Laboratory & Archon of Emeria as well. Sanctum Prelate, Void Winnower & Chalice of the Void will also hit 'em with a big ole "NOPE" when adequately applied. Decree of Silence + Solemnity will do so as well.

Weird stuff like Deathgrip will also probably help you lock the game down, but it might not translate very well outside of trying to take down Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait lol. Depends on how {G} heavy your group is, really.

Speaking of that, you really might just need more Counterspells or something! Stuff like Tale's End seems pretty good for your goal here. More Mana Rocks seems like a great idea here too. I'm sure you're buddy is running a bunch of traditional {G} Ramp & Dorks, right? You absolutely must keep up, or you're gonna lose.

More {B} Tutors will help you grease the wheels, too. They can get pretty expensive dollar-wise, but options like Diabolic Tutor, Diabolic Intent & Wishclaw Talisman are very affordable right now.

Let me know how you feel about these suggestions! Cheers!