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Commandeer
Instant
You may remove two blue cards in your hand from the game rather than pay Commandeer's mana cost.
Gain control of target noncreature spell. You may choose new targets for it. (If that spell is an artifact, enchantment, or planeswalker, the permanent enters the battlefield under your control.)
fluffyeel on
Yuriko, The Tiger’s Shadow
3 months ago
Ninjas are awesome: one of my EDH decks is a Yuriko deck that makes people "very happy". And it's a good start that you have! Some thoughts about things to add that vary in budget-friendliness:
- I like a lot of spells that you don't pay full price for, but that will hurt if Yuriko flips them. Commit / Memory, Dig Through Time, The Magic Mirror, Shadow of Mortality, and Commandeer are all, if memory serves, not so expensive price-wise and also quite powerful. (Force of Will is another classic, but I don't recommend it unless you have it because it's quite pricey!)
- Other good evasive creatures/enablers are Krydle of Baldur's Gate, Wonder, Nighthawk Scavenger, and Vampire Nighthawk. If you have one, Bitterblossom is also another great generator for nuisances.
- One of Yuriko's main tricks (or how I play her) is really being able to adjust your library on demand for maximum pain and suffering (for your opponents). Of course, Vampiric Tutor and Mystical Tutor are (expensive) classics, but Lim-Dul's Vault is a go-to I use, as is Sensei's Divining Top. For any of the instants, Isochron Scepter is great for repeatable "fun" with a lot of your stuff.
- Another option to maximize pain is any of the double-faced spell/land cards from Zendikar Rising, like Sea Gate Restoration Flip, Zof Consumption Flip, Umara Wizard Flip... not all of them are good, but they are great things to flip with Yuriko.
lcarl3035 on
The Braided Siren's Song (Show n' Tell Theft)
7 months ago
Commandeer or Lay Claim for some theft
Rhadamanthus on Commandeer on a spell without …
1 year ago
You take the extra turn.
The key thing to know is that the text of a spell or ability is always talking to its controller. If you take control of Temporal Mastery while it's on the stack, it's talking to you now. That's what the ruling you found for Commandeer is saying, but it's not specifically necessary for the word "you" to appear in the text in order for the ruling to apply.
Delphen7 on Commandeer on a spell without …
1 year ago
My opponent cast Temporal Mastery. I Commandeered on it. Who takes the extra turn?
The ruling that we found on Commandeer says this:
After Commandeer resolves, you control the targeted spell. Any instance of “you” in that spell’s text now refers to you, “an opponent” refers to one of your opponents, and so on. The change of control happens before new targets are chosen, so any targeting restrictions such as “target opponent” or “target creature you control” are now made in reference to you, not the spell’s original controller. You may either change those targets to be legal in reference to you, or, if those are the spell’s only targets, the spell doesn’t resolve for having illegal targets. When the spell resolves, any illegal targets are unaffected by it and you make all decisions the spell’s effect calls for. (2006-07-15)
The issue we ran into is it doesn't say how to resolve a spell that references no players, such as Temporal Mastery.
Virlym on
Yuriko, Shadow of Fate EDH
1 year ago
Just to not clutter up azja's feed, I'll give my input to the questions you asked. I'm no azja, so I can't answer for them, this is just my educated guessing.
Capture of Jingzhou is rather expensive, and it's easier to just run something like Time Warp over it. But for Karn's Temporal Sundering, it domes for 1 more when it's a trigger off Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow, and it has a Void Snare attached to it, which could clear out some other problem like Platinum Angel (niche example, but gets the point across), or put a ninja back into your hand so you can ninjutsu it out on the extra turn.
Tormented Soul being just black is a huge drawback for what azja was going for in competitiveness, it also can't be pitched to Commandeer, Force of Will, nor Force of Negation.
Kaito Shizuki requires further testing. in most cases, it's 3 mana for a single unblockable ninja token and a filter the following turn. You'll hardly ever even want to get the emblem due to trying to win through Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow triggers utilizing small ninjas and not cheating out something big. It's more beneficial to have ninjutsu creatures in your hand so you can get them to hit an opponent utilizing an enabler rather than trying to find some way to deal combat damage with a rather lackluster attacking ninja.
Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow enablers want to b as cheap as possible. There's a HUGE fall-off from having a 1 CMC enabler to having a 2 CMC enabler to where that extra mana, and delaying Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow from hitting someone turn 2 better be a big payoff. Faerie Seer and Spectral Sailor are both 1 CMC enablers, and flying is generally scarce enough early game to where it effectively says "unblockable". Wingcrafter is a way to grant Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow flying so she can activate her own ability fairly reliably, it also let's you cycle ninjas out by giving one flying, and using ninjutsu shenanigans to keep more expendable ninjas on the board. Example, you could have it paired with a Skullsnatcher, swing it in, ninjutsu it out for a Fallen Shinobi, then after damage (after the triggers and before combat is over) ninjutsu the Skullsnatcher back in so that the Fallen Shinobi can stay a little safer in your hand. Augury Owl Sage Owl being able to see 3/4 cards into your library helps set up a big Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow play, or can at least give u information to see if you'll get answers to threats or if you need to crack a fetch as you nothing coming up and need to refuel, etc. That extra digging and set-up is basically a Sensei's Divining Top activation, but on an enabler body.
There's no instant-win combo in the deck because azja doesnt like them. "But I don't really enjoy playing combo decks, so I've opted to not include the aforementioned Demonic Consultation & Thassa's Oracle combo.". Having said that, Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow is typically a really fast agro deck. It will have the general agro problems of puttering out if faced with a deck that has enough lifegain and board wipes. But that deck was also designed more in the cEDH realm, so if a game is going longer than 6 turns, the super control deck is probably going to win anyways. As for trying to throw in more alternate win-cons, you usually want to avoid that. If you need multiple cards for an alternate win-con and they cards otherwise could either be dead, or put you behind in your initial game plan, they are just a hinderance in cEDH. Every individual card needs to be doing something to push you further. You can't have dead combo pieces in hand when you have 5-turn games. Thassa's Oracle is more often than not a dead card in decklists like this. You need a deck build around what it wants you to do, otherwise it's just a 1/3 for 2 mana, and Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow really doesn't need that baggage.
Scheming Symmetry isn't really a "play and win" card, it's just another 1 CMC top deck manipulation card. It also works REALLY well if you have something like Fallen Shinobi in hand, waiting to hit the person you just let search their library.
"Also, would avoiding the enters tapped lands be better? E.G. Drowned Catacomb, Mystic Sanctuary, Sunken Hollow be far better as say City of Brass, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, River of Tears, Etc.?" River of Tears is a bad card to try and deal with when you're running on a really low curve. If you play it turn 1, it adds B, so you can't play your 1 CMC enablers aside from Gingerbrute. If you play an island turn 1, and River of Tears turn 2, you now have double blue on turn 3 with no black, and if you play a black mana land, you now have double black and only one blue. If you need the double blue and a black, you would need to tap it before playing a land, but doing something like that makes it so you can't use it for ninjutsu. It's just a hassle of a land and adds too much to keep track up when there's already a lot that's going on in an EDH game. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is basically just a swamp. City of Brass would generally be a good include though, assuming you're ok with the price tag and games aren't typically decided by 4 life. Drowned Catacomb will generally always come in untapped if you play right due to the amount of fetches. Mystic Sanctuary will generally come in untapped in a deck this heavily blue, and the upside of being able to recur an answer or even a big spell that Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow can trigger with makes the chance of it coming in tapped irrelevant. Sunken Hollow is the worst offender of the 3, but it still has the basic land typing, so it can be fetched. And that upside is generally enough to warrant including it.
Corrosive_Cat on
Delve Recycling
1 year ago
Commandeer and Subtlety are good exile outlets, and Endless Sands and Mosswort Bridge // Shelldock Isle could be cool too! And Masked Vandal would make a stunning sideboard card.
HiddenDeftElm on
Akatsuki, the Horizon's Shadow
2 years ago
Hi! My advice is replace some of the creatures with cheap or free counter magic. I would defiantly cut Wonder , K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth , Spark Double and Throatseeker the rest is up to you. Don't under estimate free creatures without evasion like Memnite and Phyrexian Walker .
Some disruption spells i would recommend are Commandeer , Chain of Vapor , Flusterstorm . Their expensive so some budget options are Fatal Push , Misdirection , Murderous Cut , Spell Pierce . Also i would recommend some library manipulation like Spy Network , Ponder , Mission Briefing , Lim-Dul's Vault (its good but expensive). Scroll Rack and Sensei's Divining Top are also great top deck manipulation but probably no worth the money.
I recon Access Tunnel , Blinkmoth Nexus , Halimar Depths and Mystic Sanctuary should replace Path of Ancestry , Temple of the False God , Isolated Watchtower , High Market .
Finally i would recommend some better high CMC cards to reveal with Yuriko activation's. Some of the cards i recommended already double as good reveals but you could add: Sea Gate Restoration Flip, Nexus of Fate , Time Warp . Their not budget friendly but there good. Take out two lands if you use Sea Gate Restoration and Agadeem's Awakening Flip for obvious reasons.
I hope this helps :D
Snake57 on
Yuriko (Optimized) Primer
2 years ago
My playgroup agreed on not using permanent proxies to keep the power level as is, but I'll definitely grab the more expensive fetches, I'm just waiting for the reprint coming up in Modern Horizons 2 :) I'm also currently trying to grab a Mana Crypt and Mana Drain locally but it's proving harder than expected.
You are completly right about Song of the Dryads and Walker of Secret Ways I guess there are still some situations where it could be useful returning Yuriko to my hand but that realization admittedly made it a lot worse, makes me a bit unsure about committing to that switch.
Great to hear that we seem to agree on Abjure Mystic Reflection I'll try to find some space for those as soon as I can get my hands on them Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire may just be too slow, you are right. I often forget just how fast Yuriko can be, it may just be good in a lower powered Yuriko deck. Nether Traitor Is kind of in the same boat as well, and quite frankly I wouldn't be sure what to cut for it either.
I sometimes forget considering how important it is to have cards to pitch for Force of Will / Force of Negation / Commandeer , you are again absolutely right.
You seem to have a very firm grip on what to switch out for new cards, since my decklist is so close to yours it's super nice for you to let me pick your brain about it, again it really is much appreciated! Since this is probably my strongest deck by a pretty good margin and it's already very optimized I think I need to be careful about how I approach new inclusions.
I'm really hoping I'll be able to get some more games in soon, I miss flipping Dracos and Blinkmoth Infusions! Maybe I should finally figure out a setup to play some games online at some point.
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