Defile

Defile

Instant

Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn for each Swamp you control.

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Unformat Legal
Vintage Legal

Defile occurrence in decks from the last year

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Defile Discussion

StopShot on I need help choosing another …

4 days ago

I enjoy playing competitive EDH and one of the recently spoiled Strixhaven cards I already know is going to shake-up my meta and make things difficult for me. Namely Witherbloom Apprentice is the card I'm dreading as it can close out a game if it's controller casts Chain of Smog as it can be copied infinitely if the controller always targets themself with it. It's very likely every BGx deck in my play group is going to run this combo given how easy it is to setup and when you pair the possibility of closing out the game on turn two through Dark Ritual or Sol Ring into a mana rock, it becomes a lethal threat I can't ignore when making deck building decisions. As such, I feel I need to add another one mana creature removal spell in my deck, but I'm stumped over which spell I should include not just to address this potential combo but also have the most practical use outside of it as well.

My current list of removal spells are: Path to Exile , Swords to Plowshares , Sinister Concoction , Dismember , Lightning Axe , Molten Vortex , Red Elemental Blast , Pyroblast and Terminate (I enjoy playing more reactively than proactively.)

The removal spells I'm considering are: Dark Betrayal , Fatal Push , Human Frailty , Lightning Bolt , Magma Spray , Weight of Spires and Seal of Fire . (The last one I'm considering for its use around counterspells by casting it early.)

Notable exclusions are: Deadly Rollick , Defile , Dispatch , Force of Despair , Galvanic Blast , Murderous Cut , Mutual Destruction , Necrotic Wound , Pyrokinesis , Reckless Rage , Skred and Tragic Slip as I feel I don't have the means to meet these card restrictions consistent enough to be useful in my deck, especially in the early game. I'm also not considering two mana removal spells like Go for the Throat because I feel at this point cost effectiveness matters more than removal range.

Of course the best removal spell is going to depend heavily on the meta, but I'm generally trying to figure out which of the spells I'm considering is the best in a competitive environment in general. I'm looking for feedback and second opinions on whether you think any of the spells shines well above the rest through your own play experiences. I appreciate any insight I can get, thanks.

Profet93 on Eternal Darkness

1 month ago

I tried making a list of creatures alone to cut but it's too large. Basically, the majority of your creatures cost too much and their effects are not worth the cost you are paying. Moreso, the effects don't seem to interact with each other.

For example, you have some token based effects such as Drana Liberator, blood artist, ayara, but not enough token producers in the deck despite grave titan and wurmcoil. Bloodgift, burning and archfiend are all subpar demons that don't matter to an infect strategy. Tymaret is not the best grave yard hate piece in black.

Before I give you a long list of potential cards, do note, you need to work on black's weakness of interacting with artifacts and enchantments. I will create options for that in another comment later, if you are interested in that lmk. Now for potential suggestions....

Sword of Truth and Justice - Synergy, protection. Not needed but fun

Magus of the Coffers - Ramp rarely hurts. Lack of haste, weak body makes it less playable, but ramp is needed after they kill your commander a few times

Murderous Rider - Removal

Nirkana Revenant - Ramp, this and magus, while expensive, actually help you cast the other spells you need (Draw, removal, etc...) as opposed to having a cool creature that doesn't give you the best benefit

Dread Presence - Draw/removal

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed - Another target for removal aside from your commander

Deadly Rollick / Dismember / Force of Despair - Not needed, but interaction for free should not be overlooked

Defile / Tragic Slip - Cheap removal, being in black, you have the best instant speed creature removal. Don't be afraid to use it

Vampiric Tutor - Tutor, not needed but helpful

Malakir Rebirth  Flip/ Supernatural Stamina - Oh no, you destroyed my commander, whatever will I do....ooh, nice ETB creature you killed, Eminem's guess whose back plays. Notice how these 2 cards help mitigate a large weakness of the deck, commander removal.

Soul Shatter - Removal

Swiftfoot Boots - Not needed, but redundancy rarely hurts

Dark Ritual / Arcane Signet / Mind Stone - Ramp to get your commander out earlier, you need much much more ramp in this deck. A lot more

Whispersilk Cloak / Commander's Plate - Protect and attack unafraid, everything you need

Opposition Agent - Nice fetchland, tutor, ramp spell, etc...

War Room - Draw in a pinch

Feed the Swarm - Removal that targets enchantments, one of black's weaknesses

Yawgmoth, Thran Physician - Not needed, but profilerate is cool if you can't close out through combat

Howl from Beyond / Hatred - Obviously

These are just general suggestions that have some immediate impact of being strictly better than current cards included as well as more synergistic.

MrMortifex145 on Mono Black Control - 2021

4 months ago

Apollo_Paladin yeah those cards are cool, however I think that to make them really work you'd need something to get even more value out of two-for-one-ing yourself. Many mbc list with Village Rites usually have a bunch of Unearth so you can for example sac Chittering Rats and draw two cards, Unearth for a second etb and cast Bone Picker, so for three mana you draw two cards, make your opponent skip their draw step and get a 3/2 deathtouch. My version is much more close to the kill everything mbc with Bone Picker to give it much more pressure, since I'm never triggering Bone Picker with my creatures because I have a ton of removal. If you want to go to the aristocrats kind of strategy that's cool, just that to make that work you'll need to take out cards, like removal. For the same reason Sign in Blood is a much better draw for my deck, because the damage you take is damage that the opponent didn't inflict because you probably killed the creature that would have attacked you, you can use it as a Shock to face so if you top deck it it's never really a dead card and with Gray Merchant of Asphodel I'm gaining a ton of life. Night's Whisper is a worse Sign in Blood, but I switched it in because some times I wanted two cards instead of a second Thorn of the Black Rose, of which I have two extra in the sideboard because Fall form Favor will make our life miserable against tron lol. Honestly I don't see Bone Splinters to be any good in pauper: it is card disadvantage, there aren't creatures that can survive Cast Down and very little Defile, and it is sorcery speed which is not great. However there are most likely lists that make it work, maybe a dredge deck can be cool. Thanks for the suggestions, I'm glad you like the deck, make mbc competitive again!:)

AzulTennin on Budget Treasure go wide

4 months ago

Feed the Swarm is pretty cheap and versatile removal to consider. Fact or Fiction or Read the Bones or even Altar's Reap might also be nice as it seems card draw might be a bit weak Thoughtcast is even better I bet with the Treasure synergies. Murder or Doom Blade or Tragic Slip or Price of Fame or Defile or Cast Down or Drag to the Underworld might also be nice to deal with enemy threats or blockers. Force of Despair is another good cheap effect that can help push through for attacks. Costly Plunder turns a treasure into cards which is nice and on theme. Profane Command is also surprisingly cheap for the versatility. Damnable Pact is neat as you can target an opponent to deal lethal or yourself to draw. Cranial Plating is a pretty awesome equipment with treasure too. Armix, Filigree Thrasher although not a pirate, has a cool synergy with treasures. AEtherize is a neat wrath effect that is cheap. Memory Lapse and Unsubstantiate is a counterspell that feels less controlling since they keep the card. Tolarian Winds is a one sided Windfall which is interesting. Thassa's Intervention is another potential counterspell that doesn't feel so controlling. Distant Melody is also probably a great card given all the Pirates. Merchant's Dockhand interacts nicely with Treasures.

HalbrechtHalbrecht on BLACK ZOMBIE

4 months ago

I love Zombies! Probably one of the first tribes that got me interested in tribal decks, after I saw the power of my friend's Zombie deck. +1 from me just for Zombies!

Question 0: Before we can offer any meaningful help, we need to know if you truly mean this to be a deck for the Modern format? Or will it be casual and you won't care about format that much?

(As an aside, when I first started Magic and joined T/O, I didn't really understand that Modern was a competitive format and I just labeled any deck that could be legal in Modern as Modern. LoL. Pretty sure some of my decks on T/O still mistakenly have Modern set when really they should be Casual!)

I'm going to offer my advice assuming you want it to be Modern, but if you're going more for a casual build, then feel free to ignore some of this.

First, the deck is trying to do too many things — zombie tribal, self-mill, graveyard recursion, graveyard exiling, "swamps matter", tokens, devotion — some of which don't really complement each other. If you want to streamline it for Modern, you'll have to choose a more focused direction.

I would remove the "swamps matter" subtheme, as you don't really have ways to dump extra swamps onto the battlefield nor do you take full advantage of it (where is Defile for example?). Korlash might be worth keeping, since he's a zombie, but get rid of both Nightmare and Squelching Leeches, as they're not even zombies and they're on the higher end of CMC. Personally, I'd get rid of Lashwrithe as well, but if you really love the card and want to keep it, at least you can equip that to a zombie.

Then I would choose between full-on zombie tribal including tokens, or devotion and recursion. Neither of the latter play nicely with tokens, which don't have mana costs for devotion or stay in the graveyard for recursion. A few incidental tokens are fine, but cards like Moan of the Unhallowed and Shamble Back are not synergistic at all with devotion/recursion.

Next, are you more interested in recurring your graveyard or exiling it for tokens? I.e. do you want to do Ghoulraiser, Gravecrawler, Lord of the Undead, etc., or do you want to do Cemetery Reaper, Graveyard Marshal, Tymaret, etc.? You can't do both. Personally, I'd go the recursion route, add more ways to sac your zombies for value, and cycle them in and out of the graveyard at will.

So in summary, I would go with 1) zombie aggro including tokens, or 2) zombie recursion, with a subtheme of devotion for Gray Merchant. Going either route, I'd cut Nightmare, Leeches, Lashwrithe, and Tymaret (he's not a zombie, and provides only inefficient graveyard hate). If you go route 2, I'd also cut the sorceries Moan and Shamble. That's at minimum 8 cards out. What you add depends on which game plan you choose.

You're missing some other great zombie lords: Death Baron, Lord of the Accursed, Undead Warchief, and even Risen Executioner. While not a creature, Graf Harvest gives them all menace.

Relentless Dead and Unbreathing Horde are difficult to get rid of, the former because it can easily come back to hand (and bring a friend), the latter because of his damage prevention clause.

Graveborn Muse can provide some serious card advantage. Geralf's Messenger is amazing for devotion, he drains a little himself, and he's hard to get rid of.

If you go the route of cycling your zombies in and out of your graveyard, consider Undead Augur, Plague Belcher, and Quest for the Gravelord.

In place of Cemetery Recruitment, I'd run Ghoulcaller's Chant or Unearth. The latter is particularly good if you cut all your 4+ CMC creatures except for Gray Merchant (so aside from the cards I said to cut under "Game Plan", you'd also cut Korlash and Sidisi, which I think are good cuts anyways).

You didn't label this deck as "budget", so if you can afford it, Cavern of Souls is a must-include land in any tribal deck.

I don't like Sands of Delirium. It's only function is self-mill and there's more efficient ways to do self-mill. You also currently don't take full advantage of self-mill, with things like Dredge or Flashback-style effects. If you go full force into graveyard synergies, then self-mill is important, but even then, I'd play Stitcher's Supplier over Sands. For 1 mana, you can easily get 6 cards into your graveyard, and you can easily recur him, and he's a zombie that can attack. That would take 9 mana with Sands, which is just a dead artifact.

Lastly, some sacrifice options: Gnawing Zombie isn't amazing, but the effect is relevant. I would replace Sign in Blood with Village Rites — same card draw, but one less mana, instant speed, and no life loss. You also have cards that like to die, like Festering Mummy, Black Cat, Tattered Mummy, and the above-mentioned Stitcher's Supplier.

Sorry for the wall of text. I just love zombies! So I hope at least something in there was useful.

Peoyogon on Mono black

4 months ago

I really like Defile in my mono black deck :)

ellie-is on Ellie's Rats

6 months ago

Peoyogon: That's awesome! This was one of my first too, originally formatless with a bunch of old garbage cards, haha. It was a lot of fun losing with it. I even got to use the amazing Dirty Wererat.

Defile is nice and I considered it, since it's essentially Skred, but stronger, less limiting and costs way less money, but decided against because I run such a small number of lands and it'll rarely get as strong as Skred does. I don't have good sacrifice outlets either, but ultimately I like Tragic Slip better as -1/-1 is often enough, or it can be cast after using Fatal Push or chump blocking with a rat.

Vampiric Link is fun! Not sure how I feel about it in this deck, but a one-mana pacify is great and I can imagine it being super enjoyable in a multiplayer game where you can't enchant someone's creature and gain life while they're attacking someone else as well. But on the other hand its uses as removal are narrow as it doesn't stop abilities from being activated, and if you put it on a pack rat you can get 2-for-1'd. I used to run Gift of Orzhova for life and evasion back in the day and it was great having rats with wings, but a lot of the time they'd get killed and I'd just be sad haha.

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