Genesis Wave

Sorcery

Reveal the top X cards of your library. You may put any number of permanent cards with converted mana cost X or less from among them onto the battlefield. Then put all cards revealed this way that weren't put onto the battlefield into your graveyard.

Discussion (47)

blueiris on Kumena, Just Tap It In

2 weeks ago

Hello, Pheardemons!

Thanks for the comments and feedback. As you can see, I've used a few elements that were inspired from your build, such as the wizards Ertai, Wizard Adept , Venser, Shaper Savant , and Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir . I also like the options that the transmute cards bring to maximize potential playability, so great additions with Drift of Phantasms , and the others.

I feel Defense of the Heart can be a really good pace keeper. I find it especially useful combined with Tishana, Voice of Thunder & Jungleborn Pioneer to generate three bodies and draw a minimum of three cards. But, yes, this is also great opportunity to seek out situation based creatures!

Cauldron of Souls is a new addition, so I'll have to follow up. I saw it in another list and liked the idea of preventing a board wipe simply by having a lord in play, but it may end up being too niche for 5 mana and the necessary setup. Also, artifact removal can make quick work of the cauldron , so is it just a sitting target until its potentially used? I'm talking myself out of this one it seems.

I really just want Herald's Horn to work, so it stayed in the list despite any reservations. Is it ramp, is it tribal, is it card draw? I think the sum of all it's parts fit in the list, and only at a cost of . It certainly plays well with Arcane Adaptation & Maskwood Nexus . Sylvan Library also has some synergy to fix the top card with its scry ability, so I guess I'm tooting my horn .

My intentions with Realmwalker are similar to Herald's Horn by allowing top card play/view. Plus, when combined with any of the flash options in the deck it can make things exciting. I think Realmwalker has performed well for me and it's here to stay. Also, an added benefit is that neither card require that you reveal reveal anything to your opponent when peeking.

For removal, I've used Curse of the Swine over the years for flare, but it's ultimately become a staple for me. Sometimes there's only a couple intrusive baddies to remove, and this makes quick work of them. I'll definitely take your advice and use Reality Shift over the non-exile removal, so thanks for pointing that out.

Darting Merfolk pairs with Intruder Alarm to be quite abusive when you have Kumena and a few fish to play with. Tap three fish (even including Darting Merfolk ) to draw a card, pay to return Darting Merfolk to your hand, then recast to untap all fish. Rinse, repeat. I'm not sure there's too much more, but with the appropriate resources it can be pretty powerful.

I've done okay with the colorless lands so far, but it's definitely something I'll need to watch closely. I just added Yavimaya Hollow , so maybe it's a good idea to remove something else colorless in exchange.

I agree with you about Genesis Wave . Honestly, I only avoided the card so I didn't completely plagiarize your deck ;) I'll take your recommendation and add it now! Overall I felt like I could run fewer counter spells and more removal in this package, so this is an excellent inclusion.

Regarding the one drops, I've rethought that comment after your response and it makes sense to stay focused on the combo aspect of this build. Solid advice.

Thanks again, and I appreciate the insight!

Pheardemons on Kumena, Just Tap It In

2 weeks ago

I like your build man. I definitely have some questions for a couple cards I did not consider for mine.

How has Defense of the Heart played? Does it get to go off often enough? Do you have specific creatures you get every time or is it more situation based?

Do you feel like Cauldron of Souls and Herald's Horn have earned their place? Are they things your usually happy to see?

Realmwalker is one that I keep trying to add in but keep "not finding" a slot for it. How has it worked for you?

Do you feel like you need the removal in Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , and Curse of the Swine ? I always felt like I wanted to try them but never wanted to take out counterspells or anything for them. Also, I suggest to take out either Pongify or Rapid Hybridization for Reality Shift since it exiles instead of destroys. Personal preference.

Why are you playing Darting Merfolk ? It seems...weird to me. I believe there are plenty of other two drop merfolk that might have more efficient abilities if you're looking for more than a body. Is there something I'm missing with him?

Are the colorless lands ( Winding Canyons , Yavimaya Hollow , and Alchemist's Refuge ) worthwhile because of their utility? Have you run into any color problems because of them?

One card I STRONGLY recommend is Genesis Wave . You don't play as many counterspells and other non-permanents so this card would benefit you in a powerful way. Getting this where X is 10+ (especially at instant speed) can drastically change the game.

You asked me about a lot of the one drop merfolk that turns lands into islands. I don't run them because I am going combo instead of aggro. Aggressive merfolk decks that play all of the lords and want to keep swinging in unhindered will definitely love those merfolk. My build kept one Lord of Atlantis as a backup, but it is rare that I'm swinging in when I finally get three Merfolk because I want to draw as much as possible. In saying that, playing them to increase the chance of three merfolk on turn three when you cast Kumena is something noteworthy.

Lastly, the biggest advice I can give (since you're looking to change yours) is just to playtest. No matter how much you may like a card or want a card, just playtest to see if it does what you want/need it to do. I can't tell you how many times I tried a card just to see what it did and it became an all-star. While others I "knew" it was a necessity of the deck to have it be subpar and I've switched it out for other things. For my Kumena deck it was Surgespanner . I thought it was too expensive for what I wanted but I needed more removal so I told myself "eh, let's try it." It has became one of the most powerful cards in the deck that my friends know to kill immediately or I've probably won. Your list looks solid so at this point it seems to be more about tuning than revamping.

Let me know if you have any more questions or anything. I'm always happy to help.

DevoMelvminster on Slimy Food

3 weeks ago

Hmmmm. Ok, i’ve got a couple suggestions, but feel free to let me know if i’m off base on any of them:

Genesis Wave seems lackluster; you spend a lot of mana to get a bunch of permanents but none of them count towards your storm count. Could be dropped for Noxious Revival for additional graveyard recurral and hate in one piece. Slap a Geier Reach Sanitarium in place of a forest and you have all the pieces for an alternative win con, in the mill line that’s used in Yeva Draw-Grow. Mikokoro, Center of the Sea is an option as well, but you need a discard outlet to not deck yourself too, if i’m not mistaken.

Genesis Hydra is cool to dig for a combo piece if you have infinite mana, but it seems like if you have infinite mana you may as well produce infinite storm, drop Aeve, and win. I think Altar of Dementia is a good win con in this deck for that reason.

Karametra's Acolyte could probably be swapped for Priest of Titania . I think you have enough elves for them to perform similarly, and priest is cheaper.

Only other thing i can think of, is that some of your draw is either slow, or over costed, and could possibly be replaced with more abusable options. Toski, Bearer of Secrets , Rishkar's Expertise , and Elemental Bond are the main ones i’m referring to. If you have infinite storm Bond is gonna deck you when/if you cast Aeve and not be useful anymore. Rishkar would have a similar effect if Aeve is too big and then is dead in hand. Unfortunately I can’t think of good replacements right this second, but will come back and let you know when/if i do. More tutors certainly wouldn’t hurt if that’s what it came down to.

Darkshadow9 on Walls with teeth

2 months ago

I‘m really surprised nobody has yet mentioned that High Alert and Axebane Guardian give infinite mana when having 4 other walls on the field. So definitely no need for the Staff of Domination . Which is why Villainous Wealth and Genesis Wave are missing here.

Also, I think it would be really funny and add some more flavor to add Aurification (even though it’s not a good card) making your opponents creatures to walls which can’t attack while yours can...

In case anyone cares, this is my attempt on a wall deck: Budget Walls

Lanzo493 on Is there any printed way …

2 months ago

It’s honestly super hard to attach auras to him, and even harder to do that with equipment. The best card I can think of is a big Genesis Wave putting a bunch of auras into play and attaching them to Multani. It’s a one time deal, though. I’d say white is much better at doing this than green is.

TheVectornaut on Insane ramp idea - please help

2 months ago

I like Ant Queen as a budget mana sink. Vivien, Monsters' Advocate , while maybe not too exciting, is totally fine as well. Endbringer , on the other hand, is not functional in this deck as it currently stands. To even cast it, you need to draw the single copy of Rogue's Passage because nothing else is producing the colorless mana requirement. As for the other Eldrazi, I do like Ulamog's Crusher for decks that just want as much annihilator as possible, although Pathrazer and Artisan are better when you have enough mana for them. For Breaker of Armies , I imagine it would mostly be trying to draw heat away from your other creatures so you can get Toski triggers or lethal damage. In that case, I feel like the job could just as easily be handled by the cheaper Noble Quarry or the higher value Treeshaker Chimera . Savageborn Hydra is another creature I wouldn't recommend. For the most part, it will function identically to Heroes' Bane . The major problem is that if you Surge into it, it will enter as a 0/0 and die immediately. On the subject of Primal Surge , there is always the option of running Genesis Wave instead. It's less explosive and you'd need to keep in mind the average CMC of the cards in the deck, but it will never hit 0 things after paying 10 like Surge hypothetically can. If the price tag is prohibitive, there is a world where you lean even harder into the legendary matters gameplan and run Kamahl's Druidic Vow instead. Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig is one legendary I probably wouldn't bother with. I'd rather have something on 3 helping me ramp into even nastier options. For Polis Crusher , unless you are dealing with a ton of enchantment creatures, I think Kogla, the Titan Ape makes more sense here.

Card discussion aside, I would highly recommend EDH as a format that supports casual multiplayer games. If you want tips for a build, I'm happy to help. For pauper, my experience is much more limited, but I'll still try my best.

Ziabo on

2 months ago

very good start but needs a little rounding out.

For landfall you need to be able to get more lands. Cultivate , Kodama's Reach or Rampant Growth those kind of things. Since you like creatures maybe Civic Wayfinder , Sakura-Tribe Scout or Llanowar Scout

Also need some way to keep your hand full with all of this mana like Guardian Project , Explore , Garruk's Packleader , Mentor of the Meek , Solemn Simulacrum or Soul of the Harvest

Some suggestions for wincons Overwhelming Stampede ? or abuse your buttload of mana with Genesis Wave but easily you're missing Avenger of Zendikar he should be a must with selesnya tokens.

But really like this casual feel +1 in my book :)

Have fun brewing!

Freerunner19 on Beledros Witherbloom EDH

3 months ago

Quicksilver I know and I originally had both but I cut Blood Artist to lower the price. I am trying to keep with deck as cheap as possible and I think its in a great spot in terms of budget and power level. I rarely even win with a Blood Artist effect in my playtesting. Genesis Wave and Exsanguinate have been my go to's. Thank you for the comment though, I might try to squeeze Blood Artist back in somewhere. Bringing down the budget has been a huge challenge though because my favorite cards all all the expensive ones. But that's Magic for ya