, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice Prismatic View: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
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Prismatic Vista Discussion
1 day ago
Hey yeah of course I remember you. I've been wondering how your deck ended up being for you. This is by far one of my favorite decks and the deck I've invested the most time into in the last 3 years. I'm glad you came back to the game.
1) Why Wasteland? You may have noticed that all of the cards in this are German foil for the most part. I has been nearly impossible to get either Wasteland or Strip Mine in German, or foil for that matter. I like the art on EMA Wasteland more than any of the stripmines and it felt appropriately thematic for a character like Haakon, who's epithet being "Stromgald Scourge" suggests he would leave a Wasteland behind his army. Also, rarely does an occasion arise in EDH where I want to destroy a basic over a non-basic anyways, and I recently found an opportunity to get a foil borderless German Wasteland from the new Zendikar set.
2) Emergence Zone is amazing and should be played in all monocolor decks that can sustain one more colorless nonbasic. Also, there's a minor subtheme of lands being playable from the graveyard with Crucible of Worlds in this deck to support the overall discard theme. So the Zone is not necessarily a one-off use.
3) Fetches for the same reason as emergence zone: playing lands from the graveyard and if I get it going with Crucible and Ghirapur Orrery, I can really get some deck thinning going on by pulling lots of swamps out of the library. Why the two that I have and not the others? I don't have German foils of Prismatic Vista, Bloodstained Mire, and Marsh Flats is the easy answer; also theres a point where I worry about reducing the number of overall Swamps in the deck, but maybe that's erroneous since each fetch doubles as a swamp. The other real reason is that I have all the German foil snow-covered swamps and wouldn't have any other use for them if I took them out of this deck for the other fetches.
4) I haven't really gotten to use K'rrik since I put him in the deck. Took a while to source a German one and then get it altered and Corona has severely impacted how much I actually play EDH nowadays. We'll see how impactful the life loss is, but as with all such things you have to strike a balance between your greed to play stuff out with him and putting yourself in a dangerous situation. Lifelink is generally not the way I plan to recover from things like K'rrik, rather cards like Disciple of Bolas and Disciple of Griselbrand are usually more useful for gaining relevant amounts of life back. I rarely find myself attacking unless it's to get a sword trigger.
5)Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder has been in earlier iterations of this deck but his sac trigger from making too many thrulls makes him less attractive unless you can play something like Conspiracy so that he doesn't make thrulls anymore. Abhorrent Overlord is a key piece to generating a massive number of dudes to be sac fodder to an altar to make infinite mana. Since the point is to get to a play where I can just keep sacing and replaying cards from my graveyard with Haakon and Ashes of the Fallen, Overlord does that better than any other card in monoblack.
6)Bitterblossom would serve no valuable purpose other than the Contamination lock and I prefer not to play really "mean" magic like that. Contamination is not usually in the deck but I wanted to try it out because its art seems really fitting for Haakon once again as the Scource of a place. Also, it's a good card for helping a black deck catch up that is playing from way behind "better" decks.
7) Being that this deck hovers between $2-3k, I think it's safe to say that money is not a factor. I generally don't like playing tutors and already play way more in this deck than in a normal one of my decks because it's inherently so handicapped. Razaketh has been in it before and I may put him back in, it's just very easy to win outright with him on the battlefield.
8) Ghirapur Orrery has maybe backfired once on me, it's a careful balancing act. It backfired spectacularly on Justin Parnell in SCG's CMDRVS show. His opponent got a Bojuka Bog on the extra land drop and nuked his graveyard. I never play Lifeline until I'm ready to take advantage of it, and preferably when I have Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet out so that it doesn't work for opponents. Haven't really gotten to use Tombstone Stairwell because of the pandemic.
9) Null Profusion is amazing and underplayed. Play Reliquary Tower or Anvil of Bogardan afterwards and the time stamp of the last card replaces the reduced hand size with infinite hand size and now you just draw cards for every card you play. Works great with Haakon playing cards from your graveyard and Crucible of Worlds doing the same.
10) Yawgmoth is a great extra free sac outlets. Sac outlets are always the most important thing to have in a monoblack deck, especially one's that draw you a card and can potentially be removal too. His proliferate ability lets me immediately ultimate Liliana, Defiant Necromancer often too. He's generally my favorite black creature of all time.
11) Always always dredge Stinkweed Imp. More cards in your graveyard is always the goal for Haakon. The best is dredging him, discarding him to Skirge Familiar, and then drawing again from something else to dredge him again.
12) Creature tutors like Fleshwrither are always more appealing to me in Haakon because I can replay them from the graveyard. Fleshwrither isn't a good card per se, but it is a pet card and also just fantastic and frequently reusable. I can get graveyard hate (Kalitas), ramp (Crypt Ghast), or card draw (Disciple of Bolas) with him so he's very flexible depending on what point in the game I'm at.
13) Conspiracy isn't actually in this deck and Cryptbreaker is here as a discard outlet to help me get Haakon in the graveyard as well as be a infinitely castable creature from the graveyard with Haakon/Ashes out and Phyrexian Altar. That gives me all the draws I could need or infinite Gravestorm for Bitter Ordeal when it's in the deck.
14) I have recast Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger probably 5 times in a turn from the graveyard with this deck before. He's amazing and all I've needed. I prefer not to use stuff like Oblivion Stone or All is Dust that a lot of my deck wouldn't dodge as well, and since my wincon is a black enchantment Decaying Soil, I would have few options to recover from it if I was forced to use those. Scour from Existence isn't here because I don't like using over-costed one-off spells. I can tutor for Ulamog and use him repeatedly.
These were good questions and I appreciate you reading my bio and asking questions respectfully. Your manner of asking demonstrates thoughtful consideration of the deck instead of pushy insistence of a different viewpoint. Ultimately there's no "right" way to build an EDH deck, although there are objectively more optimal ways to design them. I have a passing interest in optimization, but am mostly making choices to balance synergy with flavor and a fun play experience.
4 days ago
Now that I see it laid out like this I see two problems and why you aren't able to play all your spells when we play. The biggest problem is the number of lands you have is too low. The second problem is the amount of card advantage you have. Both are causing you to not get your land drops when you need them.
These are four cards I would take out, why I would take them out, and what I suggest you replace them with:
Languish as a board wipe is too unreliable and will often miss the big threats that you might encounter. It's great against wide boards, but even then they may have anthem effects in play that make it useless. I suggest putting in Exotic Orchard.
Harrow was the hardest one for me to pick. It is great ramp and might still be worthwhile in the deck; however, you need to cut something and I can see situations where you wouldn't have any basic lands. In those cases, it is harder to justify sacrificing a land. I also suggest replacing this with a land, but the other ideas I have are a bit pricy. The best one would be to put in Mana Confluence but it is a bit pricy (you can get it for around $20). Reflecting Pool and Prismatic Vista are also pricy but not as good as Mana Confluence. Any of the three shocklands you don't have (Overgrown Tomb, Temple Garden, or Watery Grave) would be good too. At the end of the day just putting in a basic land would be fine and help the deck a lot.
Reliquary Tower is one of the best utility lands but it doesn't generate colored mana like you need. I also don't see enough card advantage to justify having it in the deck. Replacing it with any of the lands I mentioned in the previous paragraph would do.
5 days ago
Blood Moon is pretty much always better due to the fact that it hits nonblue decks. Which means Jund, and a lot of other decks.
However, you have 4 cards that have double blue. And they're SUPER important to your strategy.
So, what you need is fetchlands. I recommend Prismatic Vista is okay, any blue fetch such as Flooded Strand is fine as long as you find a copy or two of Steam Vents. Evolving Wilds can replace some of your taplands.
This is one of those things where your problem is finding a way to afford fetchlands. Blood Moon is 100% better in this case.
1 week ago
Appreciate the mention!
I really enjoy this Windgrace deck, have one of my own, and I often refer to yours for upgrade paths and card evaluations. Now obvious each deck is different, but where I really see the utility of snow basics is with fetching off Prismatic Vista and Fabled Passage. You just hit that 6 a bit more easily, throwing up some extra bodies for Lord Windgrace, or the other walkers.
It really only makes a difference if you are recurring your fetches for land drops early, so I can understand not running snow (although, those Kaldheim snow basics are looking nice!).
2 weeks ago
Time Warp + Meloku the Clouded Mirror + Mystic Sanctuary = infinite turns and then you just win :) So if Time Warp isn't too expensive for you, that is something I would look to add. Mystic Sanctuary is cheap, it's just a land that returns a spell from the graveyard to the top of your library. how it works: With Meloku the Clouded Mirror on the battlefield and 5 available mana, cast the Time Warp. Put the Mystic Sanctuary into play and, with the trigger of Mystic Sanctuary's ability, put Time Warp on top of your library. Use the Mystic Sanctuary's mana to activate Meloku the Clouded Mirror's ability, returning Mystic Sanctuary to your hand and creating a token. Take the extra turn and repeat this process infinitely. you then have infinite flying 1/1 illusions that kill everyone. then you take one extra turn after you think you have enough. about 40.000 creatures should do it :) and then you kill everyone.
Another combo thats also good with landfall is Scaretiller and Retreat to Coralhelm. if you have creatures that let you put at least 2 lands into play each turn. you play Scaretiller with Retreat to Coralhelm on the field and then play your first land, tapping Scaretiller, triggering it, returning a fetchland from the graveyard to the field, this triggers Retreat to Coralhelm untapping Scaretiller, you can then fetch again and again and again, for as many lands as you want. Walking Atlas lets you put extra lands into play by tapping it. Wayward Swordtooth, Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Azuza, Lost but Seeking all do this. you just need one of them to pull this combo off and you can fetch all the lands out of your deck. If you are only running basic lands, you can make due with something like Prismatic Vista which fetches basic lands out of your deck for the cost of 1 life, which is negated by tatyova, since she gains you a life when you play a land. so you are neutral on life.
so these are all the cards I suggest you add to the deck: Mystic Sanctuary, Wayward Swordtooth, Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Time Warp, Azuza, Lost but Seeking, Walking Atlas, Scaretiller and fetches like Prismatic Vista, Terramorphic Expanse and Fabled Passage. If you have the money, all the dual lands that fetch blue and green are also good. But if you don't want to spend money on prismatic vista, the regular fetchlands like Terramorphic Expanse and Fabled Passage work too as I said, since you are also taking unlimited extra turns, the lands become untapped anyway.
none of them are expensive thanks to reprints. What you take out for all of this I'm not quite sure. But I think I would start with Jace. he doesn't look like a card that belongs here. he is good for milling. If milling is your plan, then I think this is the wrong commander. I can take a look through the list and suggest cuts if you like, but later :)
1 month ago
1 month ago
Hey there! Kinnan is a super broken and cool commander, and I might just have a few suggestions for you! You might want to try cards like Hinterland Harbor since you have a lot of basics, along with Flooded Grove, Waterlogged Grove, and possibly a Botanical Sanctum! If you have the budget, Ancient Tomb, Prismatic Vista, Reflecting Pool, and Strip Mine would work very well too as I've found in some of my decks. To add to the fun, while Umbral Mantle does indeed go infinite with some dorks, so do Sword of the Paruns and Staff of Domination, tripling the combos in that area! If you want to add to the elf theme, I feel like Elvish Archdruid should definitely be in here, as should Copperhorn Scout. If you attack with copperhorn (keep in mind it's also an elf!) then you untap all your other dorks and get to play A TON of more stuff, even if copperhorn dies it will still surely be worth it! One huge card you are missing is also Leyline of Abundance, acting almost as another Kinnan and getting you way more mana, as well as being a place you can pull infinite mana into for a quick win. Last but not least, I have a bunch of other ramp spells you may want to consider adding! Nyxbloom Ancient, Mana Reflection, (cards like Awakening, Seedborn Muse, and Wilderness Reclamation let you activate your dorks to use on Kinnan on sometimes EVERY PLAYERS TURN AGAIN, giving you multiple turns worth of value by the time its back to you turn again!) and a few more you can find under my decks!. Seems like a cool deck, good luck on it, hope this helps, and have a swell day! Happy tapping!
1 month ago
Nice deck. Have you considered adding more basics to get more out of your commander? Lands like Mobilized District, Treetop Village, Drownyard Temple, Castle Garenbrig, Command Tower, Stomping Ground and so on doesn't synergize too well with your commander. I run a Phylath deck (you can find it here: Phylath) where im using only basics and fetches (Evolving Wilds, Fabled Passage, Prismatic Vista, Terramorphic Expanse and Wooded Foothills) to insure i get at least 6 tokens when i cast Phylath. In a 2 color deck its no problem running mostly basics. It also opens up for Blood Moon if your playgroup is ok with that.
Cards i highly recommend:
Conjurer's Closet - bounce Phylat on each of your end step is really nice
Skullclamp - turn all those 0/1 into card advantage
Greater Good - your plants can get really big. Get some serious card advantage when needed (nice to have in case of boardwipe)
Beastmaster Ascension - attack with 7 creatures is really easy in a Phylath deck. This will activate the turn you play it, giving all your creatures a permanent +5/+5 for only 3 mana :).
Purphoros, God of the Forge - Deal some serious damage to each opponent when you cast Phylath. Also really good with Scute Swarm
Tireless Tracker - Card advantage on landfall