Altar of Dementia

Artifact

Sacrifice a creature: Target player puts a number of cards equal to the sacrificed creature's power from the top of his or her library into his or her graveyard.

Discussion (51)

enpc on Saffi: Sac Back *cEDH Primer*

1 day ago

With regards to sac outlets, I actually made the decision a while ago to cut the number of outlets down in my list, in place of more card advantage and honestly I can say that I have found it to be better. There are 4 main sac outlets that I focus on, Blasting Station, Altar of Dementia, Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar. I also sport Starved Rusalka and Greater Good (which is insane btw with the release of Renegade Rallier), however that's really all the repeatable outlets I run.

The reasoning I found was that while you can run a bunch of sac outlets, ultimately you can create lots of combinations that don't do anything. For example, Saffi Eriksdotter + Karmic Guide + Fanatical Devotion, while being an infinite combo, doesn't actually achieve anything for the deck. And while you can add Soul of the Harvest for card draw, you now need 4 cards to generate value and even still can potentially not have the mana required to do anything as a follow up.

I appreciate that adding the Boonweaver Giant combo into the deck kind of skews the number of sacrifice outlets you want to run in the deck. That being said, generally if you're going to run the boonweaver combo then that should be the central focus of the deck, with the rest of the list leaning into supporting the combo. So cards like Idyllic Tutor are going to make the deck a lost stronger as you want more options to get a sac outlet and then get either boonwevaer or pattern down and then go from there. For me personally, I elected not to try and integrate this as a combo since I felt that it was strongest with the addition of black for the creature based support that is offered there. But again, I still think the general premise of "less situational sac outlets, more tutors/draw" will ultiamtely be beneficial for the deck.

As for the swaps you've suggested, I think that they seem decent, I personally would have gone for more draw over Caregiver but at the end of the day you need to build a list that's comfortable for your playstyle.

Ize19 on List of all infinite combos 2.0

2 days ago

Ok, I have a couple of combos that are pretty versatile, and very easily go infinite. Here they are:

Coretapper + Mimic Vat This combo provides 3 charge counters a turn, every turn, for just 3 mana each time. What makes it infinite? Well, one of the things you can do with 3 counters every turn is take infinite turns. Just put those counters on Magistrate's Scepter, and your opponent will never get another turn. If you want, you could create this combo again, and create as many 9/9s as you like, with Titan Forge, or destroy as many permanents as you like, with Lux Cannon

Dross Scorpion + Myr Turbine + sac outlet. What kind of Infinite combo it is, is determined by the sac outlet.

It's always an Infinite ETB trigger and Infinite Death trigger combo.

Blasting Station and Goblin Bombardment deal infinite damage.

Arcbound Ravager, Megatog, Blood Aspirant, Bloodflow Connoisseur, and Carrion Feeder grow infinite P/T from it (Megatog's growth only lasts the turn, but he also gets trample, so he doesn't need to keep the increase).

Altar of Dementia provides Infinite Mill, Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar give infinite mana.

Kulibali on Saproling Sacrifice

5 days ago

Thanks, i choose only 2 Ashnod's Altar , because of the 1 more mana cost instead of Altar of Dementia. The main reason to play them is to sac a creature without the need to pay for sac.

Put 2 Blood Artist and 2 Zulaport Cutthroat in, thanks.

ssymbiotic on Blantant Thievery

5 days ago

Bounty of the Luxa seems redundant considering how much draw and ramp you already have. Hell's Caretaker seems a little "eh" to me. Swap it for a Altar of Dementia maybe? I also think you should cut down on some draw, with Muldrotha you already have a second hand basically so all of that seems a little excessive. Other than that decks looks sweet!

Gomoomog on Saproling Sacrifice

6 days ago

I think Ashnods alter fits better than Altar of Dementia because you have more need for mana than to mill for 1-2.

iNinjy on Angry Jellybean Parade

6 days ago

I also have an Omnath deck and I love seeing how other people build their version (and wish I could invest in the more expensive cards). It might be due to what decks your playgroup uses, but I’ve always found Nissa, Vital Force, Tempt with Vengeance, and Purphoros, God of the Forge to be super useful, and also run more sac outlets for all the Elemental tokens (Goblin Bombardment, Altar of Dementia, Evolutionary Leap)

m_to_the_three on Meren-ium Falcon

1 week ago

Nice meren deck. This is mine that I have been using since meren has came out as a card. https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/graveyard-queen-meren-of-clan-nel-toth/ If you have any questions on why I use or dont use a card let me know, I am always happy to help other meren players out.

Having a Liliana, Heretical Healer  ^Flip and Reanimate is nice for backup reanimation cards. Meren does typically get targeted so you want your 99 to be really tight and well. Then Meren is just the nice gravy engine that takes the deck from 100% to 1000%. So having similar effects of Meren is nice.

Sac outlets are very important for meren cause you want your exp counters to be as high as possible. It also synergizes well with merens ability. Phyrexian Altar and Ashnod's Altar are nice ones to use cause they can generate mana. Carrion Feeder is a good one drop sac outlet that can sac itself. Protip: you mainly want creatures that can sac themselves and others vs just others. The exception to the rule is creatures with really strong abilities like Razaketh, the Foulblooded. Diabolic Intent is very nice because it is a tutor and a sac ability combined together.

Because meren ability revolves around bringing the dead back to life, you want creatures that can either kill themselves, have strong etb triggers, or like to die so you abuse meren ability and get a lot of value. Plaguecrafter, Fleshbag Marauder, and Merciless Executioner are some creatures that a really solid etb trigger. I recommend at least running Plaguecrafter. Terastodon has a very nice etb trigger, it also synergizes well with natural order. Getting a turn 3 or turn 4 terastodon and targeting 3 lands is a nice way to get somebody to scoop. Mindslicer is a wonderful creature in meren decks, you sac it get an exp counter, make everybody top deck, and you fill up your graveyard. Everybody is suffering except you.

You are playing black and green so you have access to some really strong tutors. Pattern of Rebirth is a really good one because it just grabs any creature. Woodland Bellower is nice because it puts the tutor creature onto the battlefield, Fierce Empath is a nice tutor to grab any of your big creatures. Whats nice is both these cards synergize with each other so you can cast woodland bellower, tutor fierce empath and then grab another big creature Or do the inverse and you can do fierce empath to grab woodland so then woodland can get you a useful small creature. What is also nice is both of these are creature cards so you can abuse them with meren ability and keep tutoring cards each turn.

Some straight upgrades. Instead of Wall of Roots use Devoted Druid. Same mana cost but you can use devoted druid ability more then once per turn, plus when it dies you get an exp counter. Instead of Nyx Weaver use Altar of Dementia, same mana cost but easier to cast cause colorless, its a sac outlet so it synergizes with the deck better. It also has a higher roof which means you can mill yourself much more then 2 per turn. Also its ability if flexible and you have the option to mill other people but that isnt as strong as just milling yourself. Instead of Glowspore Shaman try Entomb or Buried Alive, it allows you to search your deck and pick what card you want to put in your graveyard. What is also nice is entomb is at instant speed.

I hope this helps a lot.

triproberts12 on Hogaak Persist Combo

1 week ago

Yeah, the list I threw out at first is a little clunky, because I didn't see the Protean Hulk plan. If that's the level of power your table is playing at, efficiency matters.

Here's my pitch for Puppeteer Clique and Woodfall Primus with Renata, Called to the Hunt. As you upgrade the deck, you're going to want altars- Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Altar, Altar of Dementia, Greater Good, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician. They can all do degenerate things in general, but just win the game by reanimating a persist creature. Having infinite sac combos built into dorks like Putrid Goblin, Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat, and Viscera Seer also seems good.

To go with that, keeping the reanimation curve low would be most powerful. I can understand the price tag on Unearth being out of reach for a bit and I see Victimize and Stitch Together, but no Animate Dead or Apprentice Necromancer. You only need the one turn to go off, after all!