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Wonder
Creature — Incarnation
Flying (This can't be blocked except by creatures with flying or reach.)
As long as this card is in your graveyard and you control an Island, creatures you control have flying.
casual_competitive on
2nd Crusade
5 months ago
you might want to add more lands and if youre going to have Wonder and Filth you definitely should add Buried Alive
SlangNTrees13 on
7 months ago
Hey, really dig the deck! Ive been running it on xmage last few days and am well 70% win rate :)
One suggestion that made a big difference for me was to add some more non-knight mill to ensure we got knights in the yard. Just Mesmeric Orb (if you don't mind the hate) and Ripples of Undeath do the trick. Ripples is clutch as it mills and gives the option to tutor a non-knight card back to our hand in one each turn.
For knights, I switched probably 7ish to better suite my personal lower curve tastes, but a few ones I added I think are really strong to think about slotting in if you haven't caught them are Werefox Bodyguard, Ethersworn Adjudicator, Smitten Swordmaster and Knight of Dusk's Shadow.
Werefox is superb cause it's a reusable exile every time it hits the yard with commander damage trigger. Ethersworn although seems costly, is insanely good especially with Lightning Greaves added. (Ex. Had one game my Tithe was going off and I destroyed 4 creatures and untapped 5 times with Ethersworn in one main phase). Knight of Dusk I also think is clutch because I come up against a ton of combo lifegain ocelot pride etc. decks and this is a nice repeatable shut down effect for the deck that stops them in their tracks. Smittens adventure for one mana can also just end games and then you get your knight right back from his vacation for our other buffs.
I also think card draw addition is important with the draw / discard trigger and found myself running out of cards a few games too quickly, so I threw in Enduring Curiosity It does serious work with all our knights attacking and only 4 mana and returns as enchantment when it dies. Also another even lower cost one Dawn of a New Age has worked out really well for me and ensures us an extra card each turn once we get a few knights out for just 2 mana. Also added Mystic Remora cause we got blue why not.
My last real suggestion that has won games for me is adding Wonder all our knights having flying is just great and our draw discard and self mill is perfect synergy for it.
I lost The Circle of Loyalty for its high cost if we can't get the reduction and felt there's a fine amount of token production already (even though of course the theme is right on point!) and took out Basri's LT and a few of the other tribal buff lower mana cost knights for my mentioned additions. Also lost Swords for Toxic Deluge. Deluge is just so versatile, for just three mana it's too good a savior wipe I felt to leave out.
Sure you gone through sooooooo many knights for this one. I still have some pages to get through myself :D
SteelSentry on Which commander for a Simic …
9 months ago
I'm a fan of Troyan, Gutsy Explorer myself. I don't have him built in paper but he's my Brawl deck on Arena rn. His second ability opens up edge case cards like Madness, flashback spells like Deep Analysis, and incarnations like Wonder.
jacobpmesser on
Self Mill Goyf
1 year ago
4 Stitcher's Supplier 4 Hedron Crab 3 Satyr Wayfinder 4 Urborg Lhurgoyf 4 Cruel Somnophage 4 Souls of the Lost 2 Nighthowler 3 Grist, the Hunger Tide 2 Wonder 4 Unearth 3 Brazen Borrower 1 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant 1 Glasspool Mimic Flip 1 Kazandu Mammoth Flip
That's a good base. Take what works and replace what you don't like.
Exp. I've been playing iterations of this for years now and eight one drops are important. You need to start filling your gy ASAP. These are the two best. If you don't want to go into blue, there are cards like Gnawing Vermin but for me, m2 isn't enough. The -1/-1 is helpful so there is some leeway based on META. If I dabble in other colors, Shriekhorn is my go-to.
Satyr's spot can be removed but I play a low land count due to the two modal lands (Glasspool/Mammoth). Mire Triton is another favorite because Deathtouch and gainlfie. It's also a META call. I don't like others like Skull Prophet. If I were playing The Mycotyrant I'd consider it because it 'mills over time' (MOT) but once your opp sees what youre on theyd kill it before you get a chance to use it.
So, in this list I'm 12 goyfs. Eight can self-mill (SM) and the other is useful (Souls) in getting Wonder out of your hand. You can also sac Stitcher to it if you're a T1 Stitcher T2 Souls. Every card in this deck is a permanent besides Unearth so if you fetched at all, you could have a T2 6/6-8/8 Souls of the Lost and that aint to shabby.
I have always played at least 1-2 Nighthowler. It makes those Stitchers, Crabs, and Satyrs a threat and more often than not, takes two spells to kill it (when it's bestowed).
I view this deck as a sort of aggro deck and keeping with 99% creature theme, Grist and Brazen Borrower are my interaction. You can bring in whatever you want (obviously) but it's also provides fliers for Nighthowler, Grist has a built in win-con and protects itself. I always play a Boseiju, Who Endures and if I play more, -1 Unearth for Life from the Loam and if I'm really frisky, I'll add a few more legends, play more of the Channel Lands and another Life/Loam. I've got a oops all Channel lands were all the other lands are Modal and I play Amulet of Vigor with Shriekhorn and use Emry, Lurker of the Loch as a self-mill recur piece. It's fun.
Sidisi is a MOT that can help you go wide. Every time you mill, you get a zombie. I use this in near every build when I'm in color. I've tested Blossoming Tortoise but save that for a Mosswort Bridge version I play and if I can't get that going I want to be able to cast the top end. Shigeki, Jukai Visionary, Molderhulk, Aether Vial + Dryad Arbor help get me there. But just playing the new Squirming Emergence is so much easier than playing all those other cards.
You can find a way to bring in draw, life, other interaction, etc.. it's on you. There are times were I play Jace, the Perfected Mind or Visions of Beyond for draw. Spellstutter Sprite and a few spots for other faeries like Likeness Looter (flying faerie goyfs!).
But that's the base. Do what you want.. because you can literally do anything. I've got a junk list focused on recur with Unearth, Renegade Rallier, Necropanther, Athreos, God of Passage... a jund/grixis list that uses Ob Nixilis, the Adversary and Orcish Bowmasters (sac goyf to etb Ob Nix, Token Ob forces opp to draw 7 for -7 life. Bowmasters deals another 6 plus you get a 6/6 orc token (+2 more for paper Ob +1 if they can't discard). That's a 15 point swing, not including attacks. Another Grixis list that plays Kroxa, Flamewake Phoenix, Seasoned Pyromancer and Ox.
My favorite - game 1, I'm a mill deck that sideboard converts into self-mill game 2. It still deals with the gy but game 1 youre spell heavy and game 2 youre creature heavy.
Anyway, have fun.
jdogz32 on
Sultai graveyard
1 year ago
Stitcher's Supplier is pretty much a staple in self mill decks.
Another one I see in alot of decks is Satyr Wayfinder helps keep lands coming and mills twice the cards as Sultai Skullkeeper
You have alot of lands. For a 60 card deck typically you won't go much higher than 24. You have 33.
You have cards in your deck that aren't modern legal. Brawn Sewer Nemesis Deathrite Shaman are not modern legal. Some substitutes that are legal are Wonder instead of brawn. Lord of Extinction over Sewer nemesis. Scavenging Ooze over deathrite shaman.
Lhurgoyf is only playable in a commander setting in my opinion. You can't count on your opponents graveyard being filled with creatures at all. I'd recommend Urborg Lhurgoyf as a direct upgrade. Has a self mill abilities and cost half as much Mana.
I'd take out most of your cards that cost 5 Mana. You have quite a few and i don't really see the purpose of Consuming Aberration also your deck is mostly creatures and lands so a Grisly Salvage will get you the same effect as Sultai Soothsayer I hope this helps.
fluffyeel on
Help make deck good
1 year ago
Unfortunately, to up the power level, some of the things I will recommend might be pricey (cost-wise), but I'm already seeing some places to improve.
- Entomb and Buried Alive are good options to get your things into your graveyard that you can later reanimate with Scarab God. Alternately, Filth and Wonder are good things to put into the grave that give you added bonuses. (If you go the Filth route, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is super-valuable.)
- For mana rocks, Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, and Chromatic Lantern are all very handy and budget-friendly. If you have them, of course there's also Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, and Chrome Mox, but don't just get them for this deck. (I happen to have opened them, so they move around between decks a lot.)
- The ultimate zombie enabler, to me, is Field of the Dead. You would need to likely swap some basics for snow-covered basics to make it work more, but the condition (7 lands with different names) is incredibly easy to meet. You can also go the route of some fetching (Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds, Fabled Passage, Polluted Delta, Prismatic Vista...). Watery Grave is also highly advised, along with Contaminated Aquifer, Ice Tunnel, Underground River, and Drowned Catacomb. Port of Karfell might also be worth considering.
- The best mill payoff from your opponents is Rise of the Dark Realms. Alternately, Reanimate, Animate Dead, and Extract from Darkness are great for bonus reanimation. Junji, the Midnight Sky is another possible option. Desertion
and Aethersnatch are also good to take your opponents' things before they knew what hit them. - More tutoring. Expedition Map will help for lands; Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and Diabolic Intent are good in general; Lim-Dul's Vault is, I find, underappreciated and very handy. Fact or Fiction is also handy to get through your deck and get fun things into the graveyard (or make your opponents wonder what's happening).
- The Meathook Massacre, Damnation, and Cyclonic Rift are extremely handy for removal. The first is also a bonus payoff if your zombies die in the process! Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is also super-useful when it comes to removal, turning your zombies into both extra cards and weakening your opponents' creatures.
- High-cost things: Force of Will, Force of Negation, Mana Drain, and Commandeer are useful for control and making sure things don't stick and Memory Jar for filling up graveyards.
Darsul on
Thought and Talon
2 years ago
Hello,
If your looking for input and/or Suggestions you need to help us out and give and ideal what your looking for. Raffine, Scheming Seer is a great open ended commander that it's hard to help out w/out know the direction you aiming for. That said, what I found/find out with my deck and no matter how you play him you want to be attacking every turn, this tends to leave you open on the back swing so War Tax cards like Propaganda and Ghostly Prison or flip side play things like Heliod, God of the Sun and Odric, Lunarch Marshal (+ Vigilance toon out). Long story short your deck looks weak to the crack back.
Another thing I find is the Wonder is < Filth + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
. Most of your team is sporting fly as is.
As for real suggestions how do you want to take him? +1/+1 you could play cards like Tenured Inkcaster or Oona's Blackguard
Reanimator Unburial Rites or Vohar, Vodalian Desecrator
Discard Bone Miser or Faith of the Devoted
wheel Queza, Augur of Agonies or Feast of Sanity
anyway, cheers and GL
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