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Vraska, Betrayal's Sting
Legendary Planeswalker — Vraska
Compleated (: can be paid with or 2 life. If life was paid, this planeswalker enters with two fewer loyalty counters.)
0: You draw a card and you lose 1 life. Proliferate.
-2: Target creature becomes a Treasure artifact with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any colour." and loses all other card types and abilities.
-9: If target player has fewer than nine poison counters, they get a number of poison counters equal to the difference.
Profet93 on Xavier Sal, Infested Captain
2 months ago
SufferFromEDHD I'm sincerely honored you're asking for my opinion. Sadly, walkers, tokens and proliferation are not my strong suit. I will give you my thoughts for what it's worth. Some suggestions are better than others but I want to throw the best possible PW's I found for your strategy/what you're looking for...
Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury - The best PW for your deck IMO as it creates mana dork tokens to defend itself/proliferate, is naturalize and potentially even draw.
Garruk, Primal Hunter - Maybe not because of triple green in a 3 color deck. It makes tokens, draws cards and can create a potential army. Really depends on your mana base and how much of a payoff you believe you can achieve with it
Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip - Can potentially create a token upon death. Its trigger might be a bit difficult given your lack of creatures and the payoff is nothing crazy given it's a flip walker but potentially worth considering
Oko, the Ringleader - Seems solid. Fair mana cost, (virtual) card advantage, token generation to defend itself, and a strong ult that is easy to achieve.
Oko, Thief of Crowns - Only reason I mention is because of how broken he was in modern. Idk if it can hold it's weight in EDH but it can come down early and really mess with one guys commander centric deck.
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools - Creates lots of tokens to defend itself, card advantage/sac outlet and a strong ult.
Vraska, Betrayal's Sting - Card advantage, proliferation, creature and removal/transformation. It's ult could be an alt wincon perhaps given proliferation?
The Ozolith - Would this card work for your deck?
DarkKiridon on What Card Should Replace Otherworld …
3 months ago
I also recommend Vraska, Betrayal's Sting.
My other picks are:
Lae'zel, Vlaakith's Champion is good.
I'm a personal fan of Managorger Hydra.
DemonDragonJ on What Card Should Replace Otherworld …
3 months ago
sergiodelrio, among those cards, Reckoner Bankbuster simply does not interest me; Darksteel Reactor is a very nice card, but is too slow, and does nothing until its ability triggers; Vraska, Betrayal's Sting would raise the mana curve of my deck too much; and I actually very much would like to put Magistrate's Scepter in that deck, but it costs 4 mana to put one charge counter on it, so it is too expensive.
Given that I just put Zameck Guildmage into that deck, providing both an additional mana sink and an additional source of card advantage, I think that Empowered Autogenerator is very appealing, but I would like to receive further feedback from other users, before I make a decision, on that matter.
sergiodelrio on What Card Should Replace Otherworld …
3 months ago
Disclaimer: I'm not an EDH player
1) Vraska, Betrayal's Sting really does it all for you imho, more proliferate, card draw (which I specifically looked for since the card you want to replace was a card advantage slot), removal AND alt-wincon
2) Reckoner Bankbuster was so busted they banned it in Standard, this card is more lean and relies on other proliferators to recharge it, but it will draw you some cards over time
3) Magistrate's Scepter looks like it could go pseudo-infinite if you can stick a couple of reliable permanent-proliferators
I don't know if any of the above cards would be considered too unfair in the context of a social game, if that's something you have to consider in your playgroup
HeavenlyAxe on
7 months ago
Hey Indie,
First off I really like the lands you have assembled and the suggestions from SufferFromEDHD are all good.
You are definitely going to want an artifact ramp package.
Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Arcane Signet, Fellwar Stone, Gilded Lotus, Thran Dynamo
Special Mention to Nyx Lotus, it could be good being in mono black. and Jeweled Lotus, pays for your commander for free on turn 1 even.
Sword of the Animist is not bad ramp at all and buffs yours rats
Commander's Plate might be cute.
Liliana of the Dark Realms, makes sure you always get a land drop and could make your swamps tap for four.
Chittering Witch if your playing with more opponents.
Crypt Ghast is sort of ramp, but doubles your swamps. Very good in mono black.
Dauthi Voidwalker is not on theme at all but is just sooo much value in a two cost card I have to recommend it.
God-Eternal Bontu is excellent draw power in the right situation.
Dont forget you can run any number of Relentless Rats
Gray Merchant of Asphodel will heal you up a lot and hurt your opponents
Krav, the Unredeemed is also great card draw.
Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, has card draw, removal, and proliferate all on one card
Deadly Rollick, potentially free removal
Defile, cheap good removal
Thrilling Encore saves you from a board wipe or lets you bring everything back after sacrificing it all to like God-Eternal Bontu
Phyrexian Arena some ok card draw.
Bojuka Bog if you are worried about graveyards
Mutilate, a good board wipe in mono black
Night's Whisper, Read the Bones, Sign in Blood, are a great draw package for mono black
Toxic Deluge a great board wipe for when things need resetting, and you could follow with Thrilling Encore and get it all back
Syphon Mind is great draw if your playing with more players
Victimize - is really really strong, get rid of one weak thing for two of your best things
Yawgmoth's Will - lets you treat your graveyard like your hand for a turn
Lord Skitter, Sewer King makes rats
Marrow-Gnawer - lets you make lots of rats
Infectious Inquiry - good draw and gives poison
Ogre Slumlord - makes rats when your creatures or your opponents creatures die.
Tangled Colony - if your opponent has to block it or it dies to like Blasphemous Act will make you rats
Vraska's Fall removal and poison counter
Drown in Ichor removal and poison
Bontu's Monument all your creatures cost less
Rat Colony can have any number and they buff themselves, and cost less mana than Relentless Rats
Typhoid Rats deathtouch rat opponents wont want to block
Crypt Rats can board wipe but can also win the game if you give it infect, doesnt work with your commander because toxic specifies combat damage but does work if you give it infect and deal damage with it's ability.
Ratcatcher tutors rats, and gives you card advantage
Ashcoat of the Shadow Swarm - buffs your rats and lets you get rats back
Wave of Rats has blitz and reanimates itself
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni rat that steals opponents stuff
Nashi, Moon Sage's Scion rat that steals opponents stuff
Adaptive Automaton is a rat and buffs rats
Okiba-Gang Shinobi rat makes opponents discard and has ninjutsu
Filth gives all your rats swampwalk pairs well with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Dark Ritual lets your get a head start or some extra mana a turn you need it
Tainted Strike instant speed infect, funny in multiplayer because you can use it on anyone's creatures.
Phyresis Outbreak gives poison and might kill opponents creatures
Feed the Swarm enchantment removal in black
Vat Emergence gets a creature back and proliferates
Spread the Sickness destroys a creatures and proliferates
Pact of the Serpent strong tribal card draw
Living Death swap graveyards with battlefields, great after sacrificing your whole board to draw cards
Skullclamp sack small rats for card draw
Thrumming Stone if you go the Relentless Rats or Rat Colony route
Coat of Arms your rats will be huge
Bolas's Citadel this card is dumb lol, lots of casting power and then you hit Gray Merchant of Asphodel and keep going lol
Icon of Ancestry kinda draw buffs rats...is ok
Contagion Engine proliferate twice each time you activate
Eldrazi Monument gives creatures flying indestructible and +1/+1
Grafted Exoskeleton gives a creature infect, great with Crypt Rats
Sword of Truth and Justice proliferate sword
Bad Moon buff all black creatures, opponents too
Phyresis gives infect again good with Crypt Rats
Greed card draw
Vraska, Betrayal's Sting proliferate planes walker
I know that's a lot but hopefully gave you some ideas to work with!
Profet93 on Uncle Istvan and the Shadow Crew
7 months ago
indieinside I respect your decision not to include those cards, understandable. Repeats can be boring. For potential cuts....
Vraska, Betrayal's Sting - Costs too much and no synergy with the deck. Profileration isn't a theme, creature to treasure is cool but not efficient removal. Ult is irrelevant.
Liliana of the Dark Realms - +1 is swamp tutor to hand, not even field. With all your card draw, I can't imagine this to be helpful. It's -3 is swamp based removal, you can get better instant speed removal for less mana. It's ult is great but takes 4 turns without taking damage to get there.
If you do want a PW, then Ugin, the Ineffable might be worth considering because it's ramp for almost 20% of your deck, it's removal for artifact/enchantments and draw/token generator that provides you with more bodies (To attack with or block).
At the cost of being winmore, Alhammarret's Archive?
Please let us know how Hatred ends up playing out for you, I can't wait to hear the stories! Pumping up an opposing commander for commander damage is also a fun (potentially political) tool!
Made_Compleat on Sisay, Planeswalker Captain- Superfriends Tribal
1 year ago
I love the deck! Jegantha looks pretty dang spicy with Sissay.
In terms of recommendations, Chandra, Legacy of Fire and Vraska, Betrayal's Sting both seem pretty dang good here. So does Obscuring Haze, the free fog that you can get for $2.
I have a similar deck, LET HER COOK! [[Lae'zel//Master Chef EDH]]. I'd love it if you could take a peek and give some feedback!
blpace on Would you rather die to Najeela or Ultimates?
1 year ago
+1. So any updates for Brother's War, Dominaria Remastered and Phyrexia: All Will Be One? ONE seemed to have a huge number of gems for superfriends?? Vraska, Betrayal's Sting, Ichormoon Gauntlet, and Tekuthal, Inquiry Dominus all seem strong?
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