Sheoldred

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Praetor

Menace

When Sheoldred enters the battlefield each opponent sacrifices a nontoken creature or planeswalker.

{4}{B}: Exile Sheoldred, then return it to the battlefield transformed under its owner's control. Activate this ability only as a sorcery and only if an opponent as eight or more cards in their graveyard.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Brawl	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (10)

griffstick on Restrictions to make commanders interesting?

4 weeks ago

I've been keeping up on magic online playing brawl and that's because I don't have time raising to kids under 2 yrs old to leave the house for several hours to play magic. So what do I suggest?

I'm a mono black player at heart. And playing brawl has really shown me a wide range of cmdrs and its easy to build with every card at your disposal.

Sheoldred  ^Flip was the most fun for a newer mono black cmdr but your opponents might find it to be very oppressive as it's focus is getting cards to the graveyard by making players discard and mill. Meanwhile kill spells to put more creatures in the graveyard. Plus killing Sheoldred  ^Flip only allows you to recast her allowing you to kill another creature on etb. So spells that bring her back immediately like Undying Evil do work here.

For mono black historic brawl I like Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet. Now I know how this isn't a card that you missed on your hiatus but maybe this is one worth looking into. Make a control shell and smash with kalitas. Have a few backup win cons.

Outside of mono black I like

• Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim
• Radagast the Brown
• Delney, Streetwise Lookout
• Eriette of the Charmed Apple
• Troyan, Gutsy Explorer this deck has an interesting mana curve. 1 and 2 drops skips 3 and 4 drops then 5 6 and 7 drops fills a bulk of the slots.

That's what I got.

wallisface on Why Do Recent Sacrifice Effects …

3 months ago

DemonDragonJ Sounds like your opponent was "better prepared" ;)

Some thoughts on that interaction:

• This could have been played around by having another expendable nontoken creature in play. "Disposable troops" don't have to come in the form of tokens.

• Sheoldred  ^Flips effect is supposed to be removing a creature of value, not just some useless lacky. If the cards etb were worse, your opponent could conceivably just be running something like Ravenous Chupacabra instead.

• Note that as Sheoldred  ^Flip lets the opponent choose what is being sacrificed (as opposed to targeting something), the effect is still incredibly weak/niche compared to most other forms of destruction. There's no reason to make the effect weaker.

• Every strategy should have counterplay to it. The fact that your opponent had counterplay to what you were doing is just a sign of the format being interactive.

In this scenario your tokens are still as-valid as they were previously - you haven't lost any of them. Producing tokens is still a strong effect for chump-blocking, or go-wide attacks. They are still perfectly serviceable as " cannon fodder" - just not in every conceivable situation... there's going to be times like this one where the opponent can circumvent the token horde.

DemonDragonJ on Why Do Recent Sacrifice Effects …

3 months ago

wallisface, last weekend, I was using my Ghired, Conclave Exile deck, and another player summoned Sheoldred  ^Flip, which forced me to sacrifice a non-token creature, despite the fact that I had numerous tokens at that time, which is the entire purpose for having tokens, to protect creatures that cannot be replaced as easily, which is also a valid tactic in real-world warfare; to have large numbers of easily disposable troops to protect the important people.

I feel that, by specifying "non-token" creatures in forced sacrifice effects, WotC is entirely nullifying the strategy of producing tokens; why would a player want to produce tokens if they cannot use them as cannon fodder?

DemonDragonJ on Why Do Recent Sacrifice Effects …

4 months ago

I have noticed that some recent effects that force players to sacrifice permanents, such as Sheoldred  ^Flip or Rakdos, Patron of Chaos specifically mention non-token permanents, which bothers me very much, because one of the main reasons for which some players like to play decks that generate large numbers of tokens is to have an army of disposable cannon fodder that they can expend without suffering any real losses.

Thus, I really hope that the "non-token" clause on forced sacrifice effects is used only on rare occasion, and that the default for such effects will remain all permanents, token or non-token.

What does everyone else say about this? Why do recent sacrifice effects specify non-token permanents?

DareiJuxis on Gettin' Away with Murder

5 months ago

Thanks NV_1980 for the input and support!! At some point, Rise of the Dark Realms was in this list, but was replaced by Sheoldred  ^Flip. Sheoldred's saga side has the text of Rise, while also providing a body (which is helpful when facing other control decks) and a way to put opponent's creatures in the yard all in one. It's somewhat slower being more mana over more turns, but it's repeatable, and it can happen earlier than Rise.

fragarach97 on Caveman Magic

6 months ago

Flodoo Por que no los dos? I'll very likely cut something else for him and Sheoldred  ^Flip. There are some cards in this deck that I really don't like being there and are simply in there because I have them and haven't updated the deck in a bit. Lurking Predators for sure is going, on the face of it. I've played with that card long enough to be substantially annoyed by it. I never really want to cast it, and when I cheat it in, I always wind up wishing it was something else.

ldvatwa on

6 months ago

I was wondering why you've got both Leyline of the Void and Rise of the Dark Realms. Do you get one out consistently more than the other? Seems counterproductive, but if you're not reanimating much, Leyline is great for shutting down a lot of decks!

I don't know about you, but every time I run Bloodchief Ascension, it puts the biggest target on my back. Bigger than running a mill deck lol.

I'm for sure going to look for a Sheoldred  ^Flip for my deck after reading the back part of the card. Thanks for letting me know about it.

Also, I'd recommend adding in some more ramp since the mana count is on the lower end. Relic of Sauron is great for getting colored mana AND can let you draw too. Commander's Sphere might be worthwhile for manafixing and a potential draw option later on.

wallisface on Leyline of the Land

7 months ago

I like this concept a lot, and from the look of the list it feels very easy to assemble.

My only thought is that there has to be more obnoxious permanents to cast for 5 mana… you’re not restricted by colour so you can just put any egregious nonsense into play pretty easily. Imo Titania, Protector of Argoth is only really any good in a deck running fetchlands.

I had a quick look through gatherer and the following might be worth considering:

• Demigod of Revenge is hyper aggressive and can mess with your opponents ability to kill your board.

• Fury (and maybe Solitude) feels like a solid ways to apply pressure and mess with the opponent.

• Doom Whisperer rigs your deck so that are always drawing gas. It also works great with the before-mentioned Demigod of Revenge.

• Dragonlord Ojutai is a resilient threat if you’re local meta has a lot of killspells.

• Garruk, Primal Hunter wins most grindy games just through being a value engine. In a similar vein Teferi, Hero of Dominaria can provide you a lot of advantage if you can keep it alive.

• Glorybringer is stronk but might not be stronk enough for the effort to get him into play

• Sheoldred  ^Flip probably auto-wins by itself if you can flip her

• Keruga, the Macrosage draws you all the cards.