Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Target player discards a card.
-2: Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it.
-8: Put all creature cards in all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control.
|Have (5)||metalmagic , lorddarkstar , dexxter7 , gildan_bladeborn , Gemini4786|
|Want (2)||DarkestLight9 , Stryfe_|
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Liliana Vess Discussion
3 weeks ago
@Doombeard1984: Thank you for suggestions. The Problem with the Manabase is truly a triffling one, I try to add more and more better lands in the Future, but as you said it's a bit of a budget problem for me currently, since I have some other decks I try to improve first. As soon as I read Liliana Vess I wondered why I didn't include her, even though I still have a copy of hery lying around. So I will include her in my next update, coming somewhat next week. Ashiok, Dream Render and Narset, Parter of Veils were options for me as well, but I excluded them simply for style reasons and therefore I won't include them in the near future. The Combo with Curiosity and Niv was also something I had in mind and I'm still pondering if I should included it or not, but currently I'm not fully convinced. Cryptic Gateway might be a good addition to this deck but before I start looking for other cards to cheat my dragons into Play, I will focus on improving the Manabase. Last but not least the Card-Draw problem is also on my agenda, I will include Stinging Study and Phyrexian Arena in my next update, but Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora are currently a bit out of reach for my budget (The Arena is from another deck were I replace her with another copy of Stinging Study , thus it doesn't cost me anything)
3 weeks ago
Ok, so firstly, 10/10 for flavour on the deck. Definitely a +1.
So there is some things that I think would be useful however for you:
- Obviously, no tap lands would be ideal, but I understand budget and stuff can be problematic. You could look at things like the Modal Dual Faced land cards from Kaldhiem and Zendikar Rising ( Clearwater Pathway Flip etc. If you are able to stretch to Shocklands Watery Grave , Blood Crypt and Steam Vents ) then these are certainly worth the investment.
- There are some really good other Planeswalkers you could include. Liliana Vess would give you some tutoring ability to find pieces you want. Ashiok, Dream Render shuts down your opponents ability to search, and you can exile opponents graveyards if needed. Also, if you are wanting that "Planeswalker vibe", The Chain Veil is both awesome and super flavourful in the story of Bolas, Lilly and there deal they struck. Also, Narset, Parter of Veils will stop your opponents getting card advantage on you.
- Seeing as you have Niv in here in his many forms, Curiosity is an easy combo here that can result in killing your opponent. Only thing is you need to wary of the number of cards in your deck.
- To help you cheat some of those hefty costed dragons into play, you could consider Cryptic Gateway . Your Dragons can pay for more dragons.
- Honestly, some card draw could be useful too. Phyrexian Arena and Greed are some could card generators to help keep you with a stacked grip. You could also use things like Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora if your budget allows.
Good luck with the deck. Will be cool to see how it evolves.
2 months ago
legendofa: Quality should always be your guide. If you were using all 10 planeswalkers on a single (non-superfriends theme) like for example if they all pumped out tokens and then buffed them, that would be fine. But here you effectively have:
Ajani Steadfast - Really slow way of making your commander a bit bigger. Plays into pillow fort, but pillow fort is not a win condition.
Garruk, Apex Predator - really expensive removal spell.
Kaya, Ghost Assassin - super slow way to draw a card.
Liliana Vess - super slow way to tutor a card.
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar - Her pump ability is a neg ability. That's annoying.
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad - I guess his plus makes tokens and he's not stupidly costed, so that's nice. Do you care about tokens though?
Teferi, Hero of Dominaria - He's at least card advantage. A bit expensive but it's a card each turn (let's face it, you don't give a crap about his other abilities 99% of the time) so this is probably a good keep.
Tezzeret the Seeker - A decent equipment tutor, on hte fence about this one. You don't take a huge amount of advantage of artifact untapping, but you've got some decent equipment so eh.
Looking at the planeswalkers, that's kind of what I see here. And don't get me wrong, repeatability is great. But you have to weigh that up against mana cost and frequency of repeatability.
2 months ago
I agree with trying to capitalize on creatures a little more than noncreatures since you already have Drana, Liberator of Malakir , Zulaport Cutthroat , and Liliana Vess caring about them to one degree or another. I think the best creatures to look into would be vampires since you already have a decent shell for them. Gatekeeper of Malakir or Feast of Blood could swap for Geth's Verdict , Gifted Aetherborn or Nighthawk Scavenger could supplement Vampire Nighthawk , Pulse Tracker or Vampire of the Dire Moon could replace Mardu Shadowspear , Blood Artist could replace Cutthroat, Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose provides redundancy for Sanguine Bond , Pawn of Ulamog can provide sac fodder for cards like Ob Nix or Viscera Seer , Nullpriest of Oblivion is a flexible way to reanimate beefy monsters like Sangromancer , Vampire Nocturnus , Malakir Bloodwitch , Butcher of Malakir , or Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet . Finally, while not a vampire, I'd rather play Sidisi, Undead Vizier over Diabolic Tutor if you can't afford the OG 1-2 cost tutors. BTW, I'm not saying you should run all of these cards; just run what fits your playstyle.
5 months ago
Welcome to EDH. Your deck might have the problem that there isn't any discard commander in . Liliana Vess, even if planeswalkers could be commanders, wouldn't suffice here, as she is only . Here's a list of the possible commanders:
A rule of thumb to follow is that you should try to include about ten pieces of each removal, ramp, and card draw. Orzhov Signet is a great card, as is Arcane Signet. Black has lots of great removal and card draw spells, so you won't have a problem finding something cutting. A strategy to complement your discard plan could be reanimation. This would allow you to steal opponent's creatures from their graveyards.
5 months ago
Have you considered Victimize or Liliana Vess? The former seems particularly good with your sacrifice effects and tokens and the latter can be a repeatable Diabolic Tutor and can even combo with the former in some instances. Crypt Ghast also seems like it would particularly good here to pay for your more expensive demons. Hope this helps.
7 months ago
Liliana Vess, Grim Tutor, Mastermind's Acquisition, and Razaketh's Rite are all good tutor cards for toolboxing! I think I'll add black to use these cards. I searched for Good G or W tutors, and the only ones are Mythos of Brokkos and some that I forgot the name of that search for only enchantments or auras or artifacts.
7 months ago
Boundless Realms, Vigor, Forest, Mountain, Time Walk, Mox Jet, Kargan Dragonlord, Llanowar Elves, Llanowar Elves, Tamiyo, Collector of Tales, Liliana Vess, Domri, Anarch of Bolas, and Deicide are some other cards with cool art.