Liliana Vess

Planeswalker — Liliana

+1: Target player discards a card.

-2: Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it.

-8: Put all creature cards in all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control.

Discussion (51)

multimedia on Yennett, Tribal Sovereign

2 weeks ago

Hey, Liliana Vess is odd CMC and her -2 is amazing with Yennett. Can be a repeatable tutor that puts the card you tutor for on top of your library. Aminatou can blink Liliana to reset her loyalty back to 5. If you're looking for a card that can repeatable tutor to replace Planar Portal, try Liliana.

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I did suggest Omen of the Sea, but now that you have added Ancestral Knowledge you could cut Omen as Knowledge is just a better card with Yennett and Aminatou. Soul Manipulation only has one mode that works when you cheat it with Yennett, it could be cut. I know you're playing Sphinx, but Sphinx of Foresight is pretty lackluster compared to the other Sphinx.

River's Rebuke is even CMC which makes it less appealing as well as only targeting one player can be subpar in multiplayer Commander. I did suggest Rush of Knowledge and it seems good, but if you're looking for a card to cut, it could be it. Liliana is also 5 CMC and it's much better than Rush. Odd CMC tutors can replace draw spells since they function better than draw, getting the card you want at that moment.

azja on Yuriko...Help!!!

2 weeks ago

Hi, welcome to edh!

First off, I want to say I think the deck looks great so far! I've been playing Yuriko for about 8-9 months now, and here are some things I'd suggest:

1. Dismember -5/-5 is sometimes not enough to kill the main threat at the table, maybe replace it with Far / Away (less limiting, higher cmc) or Reality Shift (gets around indestructible)

2. Doom Blade too many people play black, Hero's Downfall is much less narrow

3. Into the Story not super effective if you're not playing mill, Bident of Thassa synergizes with your deck more

4. Lightning Greaves is not bad, but Whispersilk Cloak also gives Yuriko unblockable

5. Mu Yanling I personally don't like planeswalkers in Yuriko decks. Since you won't have very good blockers, it likely won't survive until your next turn. I'd play something like Thassa, God of the Sea instead

6. Liliana Vess same reason as number 5, maybe play Scheming Symmetry instead

7. Decree of Pain the cycling mode hurts your creatures much more than the rest of the table since you play lots of 1/1 's and 2/2 's. Commit / Memory has a cmc of 10, and can be a temporary removal spell or counterspell

8. In Garruk's Wake Yuriko decks are not good at hitting 9 mana. Although not a direct replacement, Consign / Oblivion is a card I think every Yuriko deck can run

9. Kindred Dominance unless you have an effect like Conspiracy out on the board, this hurts you a lot too. I'd play something like Evacuation instead. It's instant speed, and you can re-play your creatures a lot faster than your opponents can.

10. Dauthi Embrace using 2 black mana each turn just to make one creature unblockable is hard in most Yuriko decks. Try Aqueous Form instead

11. Soothsaying also a pretty heavy mana investment for its effect. Although this card is not very budget-friendly, Sensei's Divining Top is much, much better

12-16. Inkfathom Infiltrator, Invisible Stalker, Quickling, Shadowmage Infiltrator, and Spark Double aren't good enough to justify their mana cost in my opinion. Some replacements I would suggest are Changeling Outcast, Dimir Infiltrator, Gudul Lurker, Mist-Cloaked Herald, Tormented Soul, and Baleful Strix

I hope this was helpful! If you want to check out my Yuriko deck, the link is https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/26-07-19-yuriko-edh/

Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions!

Emyron5 on Dave’s Petty Torments

3 weeks ago

Nice deck, but I'd recommend only 3 copies of Urborg considering it's legendary, that way you don't too many dead cards in your hand. Also, Liliana Vess/Liliana, Heretical Healer  ^Flip is way better than Last Hope when it comes to 8-Rack decks. Oh, and seriously consider Rankle, Master of Pranks he's way underrated.

HyperViper191 on Super Sadistic Squirrels

3 weeks ago

consider adding Erebos, Bleak-Hearted, Ashnod's Altar, Pitiless Plunderer and Yawgmoth, Thran Physician.

some possible cuts: Morbid Curiosity, Nighthowler, Liliana Vess

just a little laundry list of things i might do :)

Lanzo493 on Golos, Tireless Pilgrim

3 weeks ago

I agree with everyone else, so here’s what I propose. Dolor lower costed creatures that support your bigger ones would work out best. Cards like Vexing Shusher and Destiny Spinner are great support cards. Faeburrow Elder can get you a lot of mana easy. Even just getting 2 is a pretty good payoff. Cards like In Garruk's Wake and Plague Wind are haymakers. Use something like Mystical Tutor, Worldly Tutor, or if you want to just win on the spot then Congregation at Dawn and you’ll pull ahead. Don’t forget everyone’s favorite blue cantrip Brainstorm is powerful to topdeck three cards in your hand. Liliana Vess is also great at this. Yes, you don’t have as many big creatures. But you will get more of them more often and more consistently.

BreakthroughArtist on k'rrik lichdom

1 month ago

Diamond Mare Copper Gnomes?

I imagine we can cut a bunch of cards for stuff like Treacherous Blessing, maybe even Liliana's contract?

I'm not really comfortable with so few tutors for Lich's Mastery - is there any way where resolving Behold the Beyond just wins us the game?

Mausoleum Secrets into Mortal Combat ^_^

Sidisi, Undead Vizier

Demonic Consultation

is it worth it to us to run Liliana Vess?

dirty doomsday pile: Infernal Contract into Sacrifice or whatever ritual, then Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Viscera Seer + Walking Ballista

golgarigirl on Zombie Horde

1 month ago

As we mentioned, I think the best thing for Thrax himself is to get him on the field a turn or two early. Mana rocks are going to be the thing, since we can't make extra land drops with green. Hopefully we can get Thrax down turn 5 or so, so rocks costing 4 or less are where it's at. My favorites are Chromatic Lantern, signets such as Izzet Signet, and others that make your off-colors since we're focusing black with our mana. Altars such as Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar might be the end goal here, given the sacrifice subtheme with the Pact effects.

Some extra card draw might help get us the mana and rocks we need on-curve. God-Eternal Bontu pairs with pact effects for a blowout, Cryptbreaker turns your bodies into cards and your useless cards into bodies, and Midnight Reaper/ Undead Augur are less dangerous to you with your sacrifice outlets to make sure they don't hurt you too much. Corpse Harvester plays triple duty as ramp, tutor, and sac outlet.

I'm going to further push the sacrifice subtheme and see if we can shore up one of the weaknesses Thrax shares with Savra...large creature armies. Archfiend of Depravity and Vona's Hunger will stop a billion saprolings from getting you down, and Butcher of Malakir seems like a good redundancy piece. And it might not be the best, but I really like Syphon Flesh in here.

Also, if you're going for stealth Liliana tribal, you're missing OG Liliana Vess :P I also like Angrath, Captain of Chaos in here (I wouldn't even make a token with him...just leave him up as a harder-to-kill enchantment)...probably better than most of your Lili options if you're not married to the 'tribe'. Last Hope and Heretical Healer would be my picks for the weak links of the planeswalkers you do play.

THERE ARE NO INSTANTS IN THIS DECK?! Let's grab some versatile ones, so I don't start thinking I can free-roll on your turn. Crosis's Charm, Soul Manipulation, Grixis Charm, Silumgar's Command, and Lazotep Plating are some of my picks for cards that can always find a use.

Other cards I'm unimpressed with: Cruel Reality, Army of the Damned, Skull Storm, Nightmare Lash, Mayhem Devil, Nekusar, the Mindrazer

Doombeard1984 on One Happy Family

2 months ago

Hi there,

Just noticed you upvoted my sliver deck. Thank you. Had a look at this and I would definitely look at your land count and ramp. Would suggest about 36 to 37. There is also some real good vampires out there. Here's a few:

Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Anowon, the Ruin Sage, Ascendant Evincar, Butcher of Malakir, Elenda, the Dusk Rose,

And many others. Also some more draw effects like Phyrexian Arena and tutors like Diabolic Tutor, Demonic Tutor and even things like Liliana Vess.

Hope this helps