Liliana Vess

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Vintage Legal

Liliana Vess

Planeswalker — Liliana

+1: Target player discards a card.

-2: Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it.

-8: Put all creature cards in all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control.

LetoTheSecond on Atraxas Best Friends

2 months ago

MilesHiles, thank you for the suggestions! Doubling Season is definitely a strong inclusion. I rarely seem to draw it, but it's a great enabler for getting to a win con.

I've been toying around with removing Sorin Markov for the very reason you gave. Both your suggestions are good replacements, I may swap it out for Liliana Vess.

Interestingly, Kiora, the Crashing Wave seems to ult oddly frequently for me! Her damage negation in combination with some other early game stax makes her a good early drop.

MilesHiles on Atraxas Best Friends

2 months ago

Hey! Cool deck! I have a Superfriends Atraxa deck as well and it is easily one of my favorites. In play testing, I found that trying to focus more on Walkers that can use their ults immediately when a Doubling Season is out, is a great way to focus the deck consistency. Sorin Markov is one example of this that's actually shown to be lack luster since you can only target one person at the table with it. Liliana Vess and Jace Beleren are great for card advantage since Lili is a Vampiric Tutor on a stick and Jace will let you draw free cards. Kiora, the Crashing Wave is also a great card but you'll almost never use her ult when you want to

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Dominaria United Spoilers

3 months ago

wallisface - fair points on the 1v1 comments, but I would push back a little in commander. Karn strikes me as exactly the type of planeswalker that is good in the format as it isn't overtly scary so folks will leave him alone. His -1 is nearly a straight up tutor effect for most artifact or green decks. He honestly reminds me of a slightly less powerful Liliana Vess. Not too powerful, but has sneaky good utility and will be underrated (in casual settings).

DemonDragonJ on All Will Be One

4 months ago

I have replaced Liliana Vess with Tezzeret, Artifice Master, since I feel that he better synergizes with this deck; it is unfortunate that the color black is once again no longer represented among planeswalkers in this deck, but that is not a major loss, and is an acceptable sacrifice for a better card.

DemonDragonJ on Liliana Vess or Tezzeret, Artifice …

4 months ago

I have a copy of the original Liliana Vess in my Atraxa, Praetors' Voice EDH deck, which replaced Ring of Three Wishes, and who is in the deck primarily for her second ability, which is obviously useful, but it merely places the card atop its controller’s library, not into the player’s hand, and her other two abilities are highly situational, dependent upon the types of decks that my opponents are playing.

Therefore, I am considering replacing Liliana with Tezzeret, Artifice Master, whom I believe would be a better fit for the deck. His first ability produces creature tokens, which the deck shall certainly appreciate, since +1/+1 counters are one of its central themes; his second ability is always nice, and my deck contains more than sufficient artifacts for it to consistently draw two cards; and his third ability is the main reason for which I am considering him: being able to continually place permanents directly onto the battlefield shall quickly sway the game in my favor, and, unlike some emblems, multiple copies of that emblem are cumulative, not redundant.

What does everyone else say about this subject? Should I replace Liliana Vess with Tezzeret, Artifice Master?

DemonDragonJ on All Will Be One

6 months ago

I have replaced Ring of Three Wishes with Liliana Vess, since she simply has far greater utility than does the ring.

DemonDragonJ on Ring of Three Wishes or …

6 months ago

Everyone here has suggested that I choose Liliana Vess, so I shall do that.

DemonDragonJ on Ring of Three Wishes or …

6 months ago

I have a copy of Ring of Three Wishes in my Atraxa, Praetors' Voice EDH deck, as that deck is my only deck that can truly utilize that artifact to its fullest potential, but, since I have been reconsidering my inclusion of the ring in some of my other EDH decks, I also am wondering if it is the best card to put into that deck, as well.

One user suggested that I replace the ring with the original Liliana Vess, since one of her abilities is nearly the same as that of the ring, but I would would like to ask the other users of this forum for advice, before I make any decisions, and I shall compare the two cards to assist with that process.

Ring of Three Wishes

+can be used at an time that an instant can be cast, and, with the proper combo, can be used multiple times in a turn cycle

+requires the removal of only a single counter

-costs 5 mana to use, in addition to initial casting cost

-artifact destruction is very prevalent

Liliana Vess

+requires no additional mana after initial cost

+has several other abilities in addition to tutoring ability

-tutoring ability requires removal of two counters, rather than one, meaning that it is not guaranteed that the ability can be used every turn

-card is put atop library, rather into hand (but my Atraxa deck obviously has plenty of methods for drawing cards)

-abilities can be used only at any time that a sorcery can be cast

-/+artifact destruction is more prevalent than is planeswalker destruction, but planeswalkers are vulnerable to damage

What does everyone else say about this subject? Should I replace Ring of Three Wishes with Liliana Vess?

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