Liliana Vess

Planeswalker — Liliana

+1: Target player discards a card.

-2: Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it.

-8: Put all creature cards in all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control.

Discussion (45)

DawnsRayofLight on Atraxa Superfriends

6 days ago

As a fellow Atraxa player, I can offer some suggestions if it helps!

38 Lands may be a bit much, you don't want to get flooded. Generally, I am happy when I hit 7 lands on field. and 34 has been enough to make that happen more or less consistently I will attach my list to the bottom, that land base has been extremely consistent in casting a T3-4 Atraxa.

Some suggested adds:

Luminarch Ascension: funny with Atraxa and a good token generator

As Foretold: cast free spells

Contagion Engine: speeds up walkers

Toxrill, the Corrosive: another wipe

Sword of Truth and Justice for Atraxa beatdown

Walkers I like, I do not always run them for their ultimate but their control value:

Kaya the Inexorable: helps with keeping Atraxa recurring and a good removal outlet

Kaya, Ghost Assassin: I was surprised out how good she is in my testing, super annoying to play against

Tezzeret, Artifice Master: His ultimate is super fun and he makes tokens and draws

Elspeth, Sun's Champion: tons of tokens and a board wipe.

Liliana Vess: search

List: Atraxa's Best Friends (why can't she be BUWR?)

DawnsRayofLight on Tergrid Turbo

1 month ago

32 lands seems very on the low end. I would run at least 34 NOT including Agadeem and the other flip land. I would make those are all swamps. Witch's Cottage is also good. Be careful on the utility lands, I found myself needing to drop the land destruction lands for more swamps because I kept getting colourless land hands and couldn't cast anything.

Some card suggestions:

Painful Quandary

Liliana Vess: helps with discard and tutoring

Yawgmoth, Thran Physician for proliferating and other shennanigans

Karn Liberated and Ugin, the Ineffable for some permanent removal

Living Death could be funny

Burglar Rat: another discard on a stick

K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth: can help with ramp, also gets to be a big pain if left alone

Some cards I am iffy on

Cabal Ritual: I am not big on the dark ritual type cards in EDH unless you're running all of them and playing some crazy storm list or what have you.

Skullclamp: not enough targets

That is all I can think of right now, I may be able to think of something after eating.

DrkNinja on Ninja fury

1 month ago

Ok so I didn't check to see if any of these were in the deck already but... here's my list of suggestions!

It's a lot of cards so...

• Imperial Seal
• Personal Tutor
• Vampiric Tutor
• Liliana Vess
• Cruel Tutor
• Diabolic Vision
• Nephalia Academy
• Library of Leng
• Aqueous Form
• Ashiok, Dream Render
• Augury Owl
• Baleful Mastery
• Bolas's Citadel
• Brainstorm
• Cabal Coffers
• Castle Vantress
• Commit / Memory
• Connive / Concoct
• Curse of the Cabal
• Darksteel Pendant
• Dauthi Voidwalker
• Deadly Rollick
• Devastation Tide
• Dig Through Time
• Discovery / Dispersal
• Draco
• Far / Away
• Fierce Guardianship
• Foil
• Force of Will
• Grazilaxx, Illithid Scholar
• Gudul Lurker
• Into the Story
• Invisible Stalker
• Jace, the Mind Sculptor
• Key to the City
• Krydle of Baldur's Gate
• Looter il-Kor
• Misdirection
• Mist-Cloaked Herald
• Murderous Cut
• Nether Traitor
• Never / Return
• Nexus of Fate
• Opposition Agent
• Phantom Ninja
• Rags / Riches
• Rogue Class
• Sage Owl
• Scroll Rack
• Sea Gate Restoration  ^Flip
• Sensei's Divining Top
• Siren Stormtamer
• Spire Owl
• Spite / Malice
• Strionic Resonator
• Submerge
• Temporal Trespass
• Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive
• Thalakos Seer
• The Cauldron of Eternity
• The Magic Mirror
• Thespian's Stage
• Throatseeker
• Tormented Soul
• Treasure Cruise
• Triton Shorestalker
• Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
• Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire
• Whispersilk Cloak
• Deserted Temple
• Taigam's Scheming

Again some of these may be cut worthy but off the cuff this is what I came up with. Also I didn't include any ninjas... I figure they are easy enough to find

wallisface on Obliterator devotion

4 months ago

Some thoughts:

• 20 lands seems super low when you're trying to cast 4-and-5-drop cards. I'd raise it up to 23 at a minimum, probably 24.

• Liliana Vess is just not worth it. If you can't afford the more expensive Liliana of the Veil, I personally wouldn't bother with Planeswalkers at all. You don't want to be playing any 4-or-5-drops outside of Obliterator and Gary, imo, as otherwise you'll just make your deck too clunky.

• Bone Shards seems bad because you want to be getting permanents into play. and keeping them there. There are also far, far better options than Doom Blade. I would suggest replacing both of these with the new Infernal Grasp

• 4 copies of Village Rites feels excessive. To be honest, i'm not sure running any copies is worthwhile in this shell, because you don't gain much from losing creatures. I think this would be better spent on cards that actually increase your devotion (Phyrexian Arena comes to mind, if you're after card draw).

Scytec on Ok, can I still be Carth?

4 months ago

Liliana Vess to tutor whatever you want? Thank you for including LiliDarkRealms...she is my favorite walker of all time. :p I like mana

Omniscience_is_life on Teysa, Orzhov Scion

4 months ago

Raz is definitely a great card, but I would say add it only if you find room for more ramp.

As far as cuts go:

Sudden Spoiling, Glorious Anthem, Martyr's Bond, and Liliana Vess all jump out to me as removable.

Also--just now seeing that you already had Mentor of the Meek. Sorry!

stellarnear on Bolas Evil

4 months ago

Narset, Parter of Veils>Jokulhaups
Geyadrone Dihada>Urza's Saga
Liliana Vess>Portcullis

after commander black collection :
Ashiok, Dream Render>Toxic Deluge

DawnsRayofLight on ULTRA REACTIVE MONO BLACK

5 months ago

I've been playing monoblack in EDH for a while! So, I have some advice I can offer that I hope will help you out!

Land base: 35 should be enough, consider some utility lands: Maze of Ith Cabal Coffers (get it while it is cheap!) maybe some land destruction like Field of Ruin, Wasteland, Ghost Quarter, Strip Mine, etc. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Temple of the False God Cabal Stronghold Castle Locthwain Rogue's Passage

Equipment to boost your general:

Sword of War and Peace, life gain and protection Sword of Light and Shadow, recursion and protection Sword of Hearth and Home, protection, blink your ETB kill a guy creatures, ramp Sword of Feast and Famine, expensive, but super good Lashwrithe: ouch Vorpal Sword: haha double ouch Blackblade Reforged Sword of Truth and Justice Sword of the Animist

I might try to add a few more win cons in your creature base

Vilis, Broker of Blood, draw and beat stick Razaketh, the Foulblooded, search and beat stick K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth ramp and can get big Archon of Cruelty been debating adding it to chainer

Ramp and utility suggestions

Bolas's Citadel: super good but can be rough if you aren't gaining a lot of life Caged Sun: super good ramp and works when your opponents tap Skyclave Relic: better than darksteel ingot Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools: good for draw and blockers Grief: hand control Thought-Knot Seer: hand control Ob Nixilis Reignited: stayed in my chainer deck for a while until Tevesh came along

Grim Tutor and Mastermind's Acquisition over diabolic tutor (depends on you play group if they allow a "wish board," some don't, I run acquisition but may pick up a grim tutor for groups not okay with it)

I might lose some of the instant speed removal for:

Hero's Downfall: which you are running Deadly Rollick Eat to Extinction Vraska's Contempt

Some general removal as monoblack suffers from inability to handle certain types like enchant and artifact:

Karn Liberated Ugin, the Ineffable Steel Hellkite Nevinyrral's Disk

Suggested drops:

Tattered Mummy: Not that good, more consistent ways of grinding out damage Skyclave Shade: Bloodghast is better 1x Skeletal Grimace: I get the point, but there are better cards 1x Underworld Dreams: I am iffy on this one, Painful Quandary and Polluted Bonds may be better or good additions to complement it. The entire instant pool save hero's downfall and malicious affliction, there are better killspells Expedition Map: really only useful for setting up tron or land combos Liliana, Waker of the Dead: Liliana Vess works better

The True Meaning of Death and Taxes: this is my chainer death and taxes reanimator list, check it out for suggestions, I have a lot of cards in the maybeboard I have considered and even used at one point that may spark some ideas.