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Rolling Earthquake deals X damage to each creature without horsemanship and each player.
1 month ago
In my last comment suggested a lot of cards to add, now here's some cards to consider cutting. For cards to consider cutting I would start with all the lower mana cost nonDemon creatures. I would simply replace these with other lower mana cost cards that can better enable Rakdos without attacking and reduce creature mana costs without attacking.
Rather than playing a lot of single creature removal spells, rely more on Demons who can destroy or remove creatures? Especially Demons who have repeatable removal effects. You could cut many creature removal spells and replace them with more draw.
Searing Spear, Shock, Disintegrate can target a player to make them lose life, but you have Lightning Bolt for that and you can make opponent lose life better ways then playing single burn spells. Some budget single removal spells are helpful such as Chaos Warp and Feed the Swarm because these spells can remove an enchantment, Warp any permanent. When attacking is important to your game plan these can remove Ghostly Prison, Propaganda and others.
Rakdos can only reduce the mana cost of creatures therefore play very few noncreature high mana cost spells or spells that require a lot of mana to be useful. Spells that need a lot mana paid to make them decent is not really what you want when playing many high mana cost creatures. Could cut these for more draw and ramp.
Rolling Earthquake is a budget spell like this that's worth playing because you can control how much damage each creature is going to take, most Demons including Rakdos have high toughness. You could cut a few of the lesser Demons.
In my last comment I recommended adding a lot of loot effects for draw. Loot is excellent with Blood Speaker and Speaker is a good reason to play Demon tribal since it's a tribal tutor that can be repeatable, return to your hand from your graveyard. Rakdos can reduce Speaker's mana cost to only 1 mana, making it a mana efficient way to repeatedly tutor for Demons.
Loot can be an enabler for reanimation and recursion which are helpful effects to have with Demons. Reanimation is a way to get Demons onto the battlefield without having to cast them, a backup for when Rakdos is disrupted. Recursion is getting Demons back into your hand or casting them from your graveyard. Patriarch's Bidding can reanimate all Demons in your graveyard. Persist and Exhume can reanimate for only two mana.
Chainer, Nightmare Adept has interaction with looting, getting Demons into your graveyard to cast them using Rakdos mana cost reduction. If you discard a Demon using Chainer's ability you can cast that same Demon giving it haste to attack. Rakdos also gains haste from Chainer when he's cast from the Command Zone. Any creature you reanimate gains haste from Chainer.
Chainer has excellent interaction with creatures who can sac themselves for value such as Magus of the Wheel and Doomed Necromancer. With Chainer these creatures gain haste when cast from your graveyard allowing them to tap and activate their abilities right away. Doomed Necromancer can reanimate even at instant speed. Chainer is good with Blood Speaker as discard outlet that can keep coming back to your hand.
Some more budget Demons to consider adding:
- Spawn of Mayhem: enabler for Rakdos.
- Demon of Loathing
- Orcus, Prince of Undeath
- Demonlord Belzenlok
- Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos
- Kardur, Doomscourge
Some budget land upgrades to consider:
- Smoldering Marsh --> Temple of the False God
- Foreboding Ruins --> 1x Swamp
- Path of Ancestry --> 1x Swamp
- Myriad Landscape --> 1x Swamp
Temple of the False God is not a good land when you have no land ramp. It will not tap for mana until at least turn five and that's if you make all your land drops. Even if playing green and land ramp such as Cultivate I still wouldn't play Temple of the False God, it's just not a good enough land in the early turns of a game.
2 months ago
Four new cards have been added:
A smoother mana curve and more intense combat options. The speeds of the deck is coming closer to what I am aiming for. Still I prefer to cut some chaff... but it gets harder and harder to bring upgrades.
5 months ago
Hi Lord_of_Cardboard! I've been playing Mizzix for many years, and she is still actually both a budget-friendly and over-powered commander at the same time when played correctly. I have a few expensive cards in my deck (mostly free counterspells to ease the early game), but if you took maybe five pricey and unnecessary cards out it would be around the same budget as yours.
The key to Mizzix, as Josh Lee Kwai pointed out when it was spoiled, is playing mostly spells and playing lots of X-Spells. The rule of thumb for Mizzix is that Syncopate is better than Counterspell every time. Because X-spells can be cast for any amount, we can always add more and more counters on Mizzix. If I counter a spell with Syncopate where x=5 and I have five experience counters, I'll pay only a but will get another counter because the cmc is higher. When I then turn around and cast Pull from Tomorrow for I'll draw six cards and add yet another experience counter. In this way you can always add more and more experience counters and draw your deck for ridiculously low mana costs, and get to your wincon. You have a few of these, but a lot more really makes the deck unstoppable.
The original precon was called Seize Control, and that is also one of the best directions for the deck, namely, playing lots of counterspells and shutting down all of your opponents' powerful plays. In addition to Syncopate we have Condescend, Clash of Wills, and Mindswipe, and while they aren't X-Spells Sublime Epiphany and Mystic Confluence can often increase counters while giving you flexibility. You have a lot of the other X-spell counterspells like Power Sink which are great and you should keep, and without the free spells it is also probably good to play good old Arcane Denial and the like for the very early game. You have most of the Blue Sun's Zenith clones, which are also really great and help with the counters.
Personally, I'd recommend cutting on creatures for more spells, which get the most out of Mizzix. I hate hard-casting anything for more than 3cmc, because I always need to have as much mana open as possible to police the board on my opponents' turns. I'd recommend cutting the splashy creatures like Niv Mizzet and even the token generators like Young Pyromancer as they just distract you from your focus on controlling the board. Reiterate (which you have) plus Turnabout is the best way to win and is easily tutorable. Once you have infinite mana you can just win with Earthquake, Rolling Earthquake, or Jaya's Immolating Inferno. In order to avoid dying to the former and having to worry about blockers (so you can cheat on creatures) you really want to get Glacial Chasm, as well as a couple of ways to tutor it (I play Expedition Map and Tolaria West).
This is just my advice, but I've definitely found the deck consistent and oppressive, and I avoid playing it too much to avoid demoralizing my opponents!
My deck is here if you're curious-
Commander / EDH
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10 months ago
Thanks for the lovely comment, lespaul977! So this is a powered-down version of another burn deck I made. My small playgroup ended up making 10$ decks and my original version wound up being a bit better than most of the other player’s decks. I made this more janky list as a way to play more fairly with those other decks :)
While the other list is much, much more competitive, they both have similar ways of dealing with fast creatures. Essentially, we either simply try to block for as long as possible with Thermo-Alchemist or Electrostatic Field while simultaneously getting damage in or play Rolling Earthquake to clear up the entire board. Since I was also more loose on the budget for this list, the sideboarded Satyr Firedancer is extremely effective at blowing up creatures just as fast as they enter. For me, the key is to have options in the deck that still help you put damage and pressure on the opponents. This does mean I sacrifice versatility for speed (usually closing games out in 4-6 turns) but that’s just how I personally like playing burn decks :D
1 year ago
Atarka can make a pretty mean combat damage deck. It's not the best at interaction, but player removal counts as removal, too. I notice you're not running much green interaction, so I would suggest adding Nature's Claim and Return to Nature. They're nice and cheap.
Some upgrades could be Untamed Wilds and Spoils of Victory for Kodama's Reach and Cultivate. There's also Skyshroud Claim and Beanstalk Giant. Having lands that can ramp is really nice too, so I'd consider swapping some basics for Myriad Landscape and Blighted Woodland.
Bower Passage gives basically all your dragons unblockable (it's some really nice tech for dragon decks). This ca
Savage Ventmaw is an excellent dragon in my opinion. Helps a lot with the mana. If you have a Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient or Old Gnawbone that would be better. But the uncommon is good on a budget. Any one of these goes very well with Aggravated Assault or Hellkite Charger.
Now for the expensive suggestions. Xenagos, God of Revels lets you one-shot people with your commander while also giving haste. I know you may not want to be one of THOSE people, but if you put Grafted Exoskeleton on your commander, it also lets you one-shot people. Balefire Dragon and Hellkite Tyrant are excellent for completely wiping out opponents. Steel Hellkite is a budget alternative to those. The Great Henge is powerful in this deck by giving you draw, extra power, mana, and being a low cost once you have a dragon out. Utvara Hellkite is an army in a can. Gets ridiculous fast.
Some cards I would consider cutting are definitely the burn spells. Magma Jet, Lightning Bolt, Volcanic Fallout, Dragon's Fire, Banefire, and Atarka's Command may be good in other formats, but they fall short in commander. They aren't very good interaction because you'll often not be able to deal with the biggest threats on the board. Better cards for interaction would probably be Ryusei, the Falling Star, Rolling Earthquake, and Scourge of Valkas.
1 year ago
I'm not sure of previous versions of this deck, but I have some cards I think you should add, plus some cards I think you should either just consider replacing or simply just take out. We'll start with the ADD list.
Earthquake and/or Rolling Earthquake (You already have an effect like this in Subterranean Tremors , but this also hits players, so you'll deal EXTRA damage on top of the extra damage from the commander.)
Starstorm (An effect like many others, but this one has cycling.)
Fire Servant (It's not the cheapest creature, but it has an ability that you might want more of. You can always use more damage doubling.)
Mana Geyser (Look, it's just a good card to get a lot of mana quickly. Not super necessary, but it's fast mana in R)
Heartless Hidetsugu (I'm just suggesting this one because cutting your opponents down to 20 is great and makes killing them easier.)
Seething Song (Fast Mana good.)
Seize the Spoils (I noticed a lack of card draw, and this is a pretty neat mono-red card draw spell.)
Endless Atlas (Again, card draw, and it's cheap and consistent.)
Genesis Chamber (Yeah, it requires your opponents to be playing creatures a bit, but it makes it just that much easier to kill them. Plus the Myr generated are all 1/1s, so they will easily let excess damage through from the rest of the deck.)
Sanctuary Blade (A little expensive on the equip side, but this is another consitent way to give your commander pro-red.)
Chandra, Awakened Inferno (Her + kills your opponents faster, her - does what you commander wants, her -X is neat. I think she's all around a great inclusion.)
Chandra, Torch of Defiance (Okay, so now is where I admit that you only had 1 planeswalker and I talk about how much I like Planeswalker cards. I think they're cool and fun. This specific one is great beacause she either gives you mana or draws you a card, essentially. Her two differ +1's are really the only reason, but her ult is something your opponents wont want to have go off, either.)
Caged Sun (More Mana in mono-red.)
Pyroblast (Unless this is for a VERY SPECIFIC meta where you are going against mean U decks, this will be more frustrating in hand than useful, I think. Plus, color-specific hate like this just feels out of place in this format, unless, of course, your meta is particularly skewed a certain way.)
Red Elemental Blast (See Above.)
Tibalt's Trickery (Yeah, cool counterspell, but I think the deck should focus more on itself, personally.)
Wheel of Fate (There are better, and faster, ways to draw cards. I like the idea of this card, but in having played it over and over again, either it never actually resolves -like the game ends- or it just feels like a relative waste because people can see it coming and plan ahead.)
Lavabrink Floodgates (To be fair, I've never played with this card, but OH BOY does it seem bad. If you're not proliferating the counters, then this will NEVER go off if your opponents don't want it to, and they would never want it to with this deck, unless a board-wipe JUST happened and there are not creatures. So then it's just a 4-drop mana rock producing 2, and you can just replace it with something better like Caged Sun that will help you Earthquake for a win faster.
Arch of Orazca (I noticed in your mana base that you have 13 lands that tap for colorless. That seems like too many for me - it's almost the same number of Snow-Covered Mountain s you have. So I am recommending removing some. I get why this one is here, for the card draw, but this is SO EXPENSIVE. I don't even run it in my colorless Emrakul deck.)
Great Furnace (I like this card, I really do. I LOVE artifacts. But without any artifact synergies, this is more likely do get Shatter ed or Vandalblast ed than actually help you, and that'll feel bad. Just replace it with a Snow-Covered Mountain .)
Leyline of Punishment (I get that this is here to make it harder for your opponents to survive or heal up, but honestly, just play Heartless Hidetsugu or something else to keep life totals low. This one is often going to feel more like a do-nothing enchantment unless your meta is HEAVY life-gain.)
Treasonous Ogre (Fast mana, sure, but it seemed overall pretty meh to me in this deck. It's better at killing you than it is at providing mana in this specific deck, I think.)
Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor (The effect is important for making sure you opponents have creatures, but getting her to hit you opponents before they have blockers is going to be a challenge, and if you draw her late-game, then she's just a 3/3 blocker.)
Bonfire of the Damned (The miracle cost is cool, but most of the time I think you'd rather something like Earthquake that will most likely hit almost all of their creatures AND more than 1 opponent/opponent's board. Plus, if this isn't Miracle'd, then this is pretty trash in your hand.)
I'm sure I said add more cards than take out, and I know I said take out a couple lands, but not really add any, but I hope this is helpful.
1 year ago
Doublers are even doubly good. Since the overage damage is dealt by Toralf, when you double something like Rolling Earthquake it doubles the damage dealt to the creatures, but then when you work out how much overkill damage is dealt to players, you double THAT too.